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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 16 @ 2:08 PM ET
A change of scenery may fix that.
- VanHockeyGuy

That's fine but it would depend on what Van is giving up. Not worth even a 7th round pick to Van right now.

Van doesn't need anymore soft forwards or forwards unless WSH are taking some back. Schaller would be the only player i'd give straight up for Burkovsky.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 16 @ 2:09 PM ET
Harman Dayal


@harmandayal2
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Replying to @SatiarShah @JHamilton_87
Gudbranson's an absolute anchor for Hutton. Take 44 away from 27 and people will see his true value.

Hutton w/o Gudbranson
CF: 49.3%
Scoring chances: 51.6%
Goals: 58.3%

Hutton w/ Gudbranson:
CF: 43.3%
Scoring chances: 39%
Goals: 36.6%
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Dec 16 @ 2:12 PM ET
Harman Dayal


@harmandayal2
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Replying to @SatiarShah @JHamilton_87
Gudbranson's an absolute anchor for Hutton. Take 44 away from 27 and people will see his true value.

Hutton w/o Gudbranson
CF: 49.3%
Scoring chances: 51.6%
Goals: 58.3%

Hutton w/ Gudbranson:
CF: 43.3%
Scoring chances: 39%
Goals: 36.6%

- VANTEL


I think the defense, without MDZ/DP/EG, aren't a bottom defense in the league.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 16 @ 2:15 PM ET
Harman Dayal


@harmandayal2
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Replying to @SatiarShah @JHamilton_87
Gudbranson's an absolute anchor for Hutton. Take 44 away from 27 and people will see his true value.

Hutton w/o Gudbranson
CF: 49.3%
Scoring chances: 51.6%
Goals: 58.3%

Hutton w/ Gudbranson:
CF: 43.3%
Scoring chances: 39%
Goals: 36.6%

- VANTEL

Now what is the scoring rates for the other team them together and not together. I honestly don't care about scoring chances from a defensemen. Karlsson leads that stat. The only time his team is any good is when he plays defence.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 16 @ 2:17 PM ET
I think the defense, without MDZ/DP/EG, aren't a bottom defense in the league.
- Codes1087

This is where stats are completely useless.

I can only imagine how many variables I could come up with over these stats.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Dec 16 @ 2:19 PM ET
That's fine but it would depend on what Van is giving up. Not worth even a 7th round pick to Van right now.

Van doesn't need anymore soft forwards or forwards unless WSH are taking some back. Schaller would be the only player i'd give straight up for Burkovsky.

- manvanfan


No picks, absolutely Schaller.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 16 @ 2:23 PM ET
CanucksAbbyFan


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#Canucks #Comets Kole Lind is having a solid game today picking up a lot of the ice time available due to the absence of MacEwen. He has been tenacious on the puck and has come very close a couple of times in search of his first AHL goal.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Dec 16 @ 2:24 PM ET
This is where stats are completely useless.

I can only imagine how many variables I could come up with over these stats.

- manvanfan


Statistically those 3 make whoever they are paired with worse. I think DP and Stecher were one of the more positive pairings out of all of them between those 3, but regardless, those 3 arent very good NHL defenseman.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Dec 16 @ 2:25 PM ET
This is where stats are completely useless.

I can only imagine how many variables I could come up with over these stats.

- manvanfan


Agreed.
Any stat can be made to be spun anyway you want, and many are developed by people who don't like a certain style of play or players, so they exclude information that that style of player brings.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 16 @ 2:27 PM ET
Statistically those 3 make whoever they are paired with worse. I think DP and Stecher were one of the more positive pairings out of all of them between those 3, but regardless, those 3 arent very good NHL defenseman.
- Codes1087

Finding a better 3rd line steady D to pair with Stecher for next season. The top 4 will fix itself.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Dec 16 @ 2:27 PM ET


Agreed.
Any stat can be made to be spun anyway you want, and many are developed by people who don't like a certain style of play or players, so they exclude information that that style of player brings.

- Reubenkincade


Lol stats aside, eye test only, those 3 are mediocre at best nhl defenseman. Prove otherwise?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 16 @ 2:27 PM ET
End of 2 1-0 Comets

Game shots 14-12 Charlotte
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 16 @ 2:28 PM ET
End of 2 1-0 Comets

Game shots 14-12 Charlotte

- VANTEL

1-1?
https://theahl.com/stats/game-summary/1018754
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Dec 16 @ 2:29 PM ET
Finding a better 3rd line steady D to pair with Stecher for next season. The top 4 will fix itself.
- manvanfan


Not disagreeing. Tbh, this team will be better when we let mdz and DP walk in the offseason
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 16 @ 2:30 PM ET
Lol stats aside, eye test only, those 3 are mediocre at best nhl defenseman. Prove otherwise?
- Codes1087


A stat that is never shown is how hard Gudbrandson hits . It does have some affect on the players coming down his side of the ice .
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 16 @ 2:30 PM ET
Now what is the scoring rates for the other team them together and not together. I honestly don't care about scoring chances from a defensemen. Karlsson leads that stat. The only time his team is any good is when he plays defence.
- manvanfan

Do you care about scoring chances against?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 16 @ 2:31 PM ET
1-1?
https://theahl.com/stats/game-summary/1018754

- manvanfan



Can't trust the AHL scoreboard . It said end of 2 1-0 when I posted it.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 16 @ 2:33 PM ET
Can't trust the AHL scoreboard . It said end of 2 1-0 when I posted it.
- VANTEL

Says now that Geekie scored with 10 seconds left in the period. I was hoping shut out for Demko.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 16 @ 2:36 PM ET
Says now that Geekie scored with 10 seconds left in the period. I was hoping shut out for Demko.
- manvanfan


I have seen some of the saves he has made today . Outstanding
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 16 @ 2:37 PM ET
A stat that is never shown is how hard Gudbrandson hits . It does have some affect on the players coming down his side of the ice .
- VANTEL


Wouldn’t it show up in the dump in vs zone entry with possession stats? If forwards are scared of him they won’t try to skate with the puck toward him, especially near the boards.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 16 @ 2:37 PM ET
I have seen some of the saves he has made today . Outstanding
- VANTEL

Yeah. The defence is not good in Utica either at times.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 16 @ 2:38 PM ET
Yeah. The defence is not good in Utica either at times.
- manvanfan


Utica’s defense is not good from the games I’ve seen. They have some decent forwards and Demko is a stud for them.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 16 @ 2:39 PM ET
Wouldn’t it show up in the dump in vs zone entry with possession stats? If forwards are scared of him they won’t try to skate with the puck toward him, especially near the boards.
- Nucker101



No, pencil d1ck
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 16 @ 2:40 PM ET
Yeah. The defence is not good in Utica either at times.
- manvanfan



Sautner Chatfiels Juolevi injured
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 16 @ 2:41 PM ET
No, pencil d1ck
- VANTEL


Hmm
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