hereticpride
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Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ Joined: 01.14.2011
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Okay...
What should this “something new” be? Should it be something new at random or have a plan? - SuperSchennBros
Oh definitely something random.
Jfc |
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xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Hamilton, ON Joined: 06.25.2010
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Don’t get to watch many Flyers games so I’m just throwing the question out there....how different is this team this season had you guys had some luck in finding a #1 goalie? It amazes me that a HOF goalie couldn’t get one for whatever reason - RatedR80
Not much different. If we had an elite goalie maybe we have a few extra wins if the goalie stole some games but the way the team is playing I dont think anyone would look good in net on this team |
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xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Hamilton, ON Joined: 06.25.2010
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Oh definitely something random.
Jfc - hereticpride
We can put a couple names in a hat and whom ever we pull out we will trade one of our core pieces for |
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xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Hamilton, ON Joined: 06.25.2010
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There is no guarantee in that OHL/NHL jump.
I may be wrong, but can Toronto afford Tavares, Mathews, and Marner with a good enough team around them to win, if they don't do it this year?
I targeted Marner and he is who I have in mind. - DrMidnite
Marner is a younger Voracek maybe slightly better. We dont need a 2nd Voracek |
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Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA Joined: 06.26.2007
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Marner is a younger Voracek maybe slightly better. We dont need a 2nd Voracek - xShoot4WarAmpsx
I'm not sure what to say about this statement |
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Tomahawk
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Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi. Joined: 02.04.2009
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Tomahawk
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Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi. Joined: 02.04.2009
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Marner is a younger Voracek maybe slightly better. We dont need a 2nd Voracek - xShoot4WarAmpsx
Marner is better than Jake was at age 21. Way better. The guy is arguably better than Jake right now. I think he's gonna end up being an 80-100 player for a good decade or more.
But then again, I'm Mitch Marner super fan #1. |
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flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB Joined: 10.16.2008
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Per Meltzer.
Lind back to the fourth line.
Mac to top pair.
He’s going to go out his way lol. |
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SuperSchennBros
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Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot! Joined: 09.01.2012
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Marner is a younger Voracek maybe slightly better. We dont need a 2nd Voracek - xShoot4WarAmpsx
I think Marner is going to be a lot better. Like, a lot better than Jake Voracek. |
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SuperSchennBros
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Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot! Joined: 09.01.2012
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Marner is better than Jake was at age 21. Way better. The guy is arguably better than Jake right now. I think he's gonna end up being an 80-100 player for a good decade or more.
But then again, I'm Mitch Marner super fan #1. - Tomahawk
I think he’s gonna be the next Patrick Kane... |
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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ Joined: 01.14.2011
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Per Meltzer.
Lind back to the fourth line.
Mac to top pair.
He’s going to go out his way lol. - flyer_nutter
Is Lyon confirmed to start? I know Stolie needs a day off but at this point it almost seems like they need Stolie in there to have a chance. |
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SuperSchennBros
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Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot! Joined: 09.01.2012
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Per Meltzer.
Lind back to the fourth line.
Mac to top pair.
He’s going to go out his way lol. - flyer_nutter
Our defense sucks! The pairs in mind look the best they’re gonna get in my opinion, we’re just not very good.
Now the Lindholm fourth line thing, that’s on Hakstol. Doesn’t make sense at all. |
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Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: CLASS DISMISSED Joined: 12.15.2011
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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- Giroux_Is_God
How is this stat calculated? Asking for a dear friend. |
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Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA Joined: 06.26.2007
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Marner is better than Jake was at age 21. Way better. The guy is arguably better than Jake right now. I think he's gonna end up being an 80-100 player for a good decade or more.
But then again, I'm Mitch Marner super fan #1. - Tomahawk
I am Marner fan #87393673783984848940404
I would agree with everything you said, I just don't see Marner and Voracek as close to being the same type of player. |
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feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA Joined: 11.13.2006
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Not my joke, but...
All I want to for christmas is Q |
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xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Hamilton, ON Joined: 06.25.2010
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Marner is better than Jake was at age 21. Way better. The guy is arguably better than Jake right now. I think he's gonna end up being an 80-100 player for a good decade or more.
But then again, I'm Mitch Marner super fan #1. - Tomahawk
Yes and Voracek is an 80-85 point player. My point is they are both players that for whatever reason dont shoot. They are playmakers and the lack of scoring is what keeps them a tier below elite.
Tier 1 are gamechangers. Those are your McDavids and Crosbys. They excel at almost everything and have great hockey sense
Tier 2 are your Snipers and playmakers. Its pretty self explanitory, they typically excel at one or the other
Tier 3 is your all around player. They players are good at scoring, defensive play and making plays but they dont really excel at anything
Tier 4 are your grinders. These are your typical 3rd line\ fourth line players. They typically are the guys that work the hardest, play well defensively
Last tier players are the lost puppies. These are your Yakapov's. Guys that arent that skilled or are skilled but dont know what to do with those skills. These are the guys that end up being AHL players or tweeners.
Marner to me is Tier 2 as is Voracek. Marner def has more skill but they are essentially same type of player. Marner is young and he could possibly elevate his game and make himself into the top tier. I dont know if he has what it takes to do so though. |
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Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA Joined: 06.26.2007
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Not my joke, but...
All I want to for christmas is Q - feelingkettle
Happy Holidays!!
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Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA Joined: 06.26.2007
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Yes and Voracek is an 80-85 point player. My point is they are both players that for whatever reason dont shoot. They are playmakers and the lack of scoring is what keeps them a tier below elite.
Tier 1 are gamechangers. Those are your McDavids and Crosbys. They excel at almost everything and have great hockey sense
Tier 2 are your Snipers and playmakers. Its pretty self explanitory, they typically excel at one or the other
Tier 3 is your all around player. They players are good at scoring, defensive play and making plays but they dont really excel at anything
Tier 4 are your grinders. These are your typical 3rd line\ fourth line players. They typically are the guys that work the hardest, play well defensively
Last tier players are the lost puppies. These are your Yakapov's. Guys that arent that skilled or are skilled but dont know what to do with those skills. These are the guys that end up being AHL players or tweeners.
Marner to me is Tier 2 as is Voracek. Marner def has more skill but they are essentially same type of player. Marner is young and he could possibly elevate his game and make himself into the top tier. I dont know if he has what it takes to do so though. - xShoot4WarAmpsx
Whatever tier you have Matthews in then I would put Marner with him, he has shown he is just important to the Leafs as Matthews is this year. |
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DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: False-Positive, Texas Joined: 12.10.2010
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Marner is a younger Voracek maybe slightly better. We dont need a 2nd Voracek - xShoot4WarAmpsx
Then move him in the process to a third team.
Think outside the box. |
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DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: False-Positive, Texas Joined: 12.10.2010
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Then move him in the process to a third team.
Think outside the box. - DrMidnite
Wait, CAN Toronto do this? Signing him and Matthews?
I am assuming it would be too cap prohibitive.
In any event, Voracek similar or whatever, he is 9 years younger and perfect to build around with Hart, Patrick, and Provorov. |
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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ Joined: 01.14.2011
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- Giroux_Is_God
But he slides so well. |
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Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: CLASS DISMISSED Joined: 12.15.2011
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How is this stat calculated? Asking for a dear friend. - Nucker101
Shots lead to goals.
However not all shots are created equal. Does Hagg muffin one in from the blue with no one in front, or does Laine rip a snapper from the slot?
This stat takes into account a whole bunch of shot characteristics and an excel spreadsheet translates it into shot quality. The higher the shot quality, the more likely it is to score. This is good if you're Laine and you're taking the shot. This is bad if you're Andrew McDonald and are on the ice when a lot of those shots are taken. There's also a shot multiplier calculated to take into account who's taking the shot i.e. if Laine or Zac Rinaldo is shooting from the slot. One of those is more likely to go in. The shot multiplier is based on a fancy shooting percentage, relevant to the league average. Basically.
pretty cool stat. For your pleasure, here are the qualities and a few blurbs on it. Regression models show it's a pretty useful metric.
http://www.corsica.hockey...nd-expected-goals-part-i/
https://hockey-graphs.com...scoring-than-corsi-goals/
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wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Boynton Beach, FL Joined: 10.03.2010
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I'm not overvaluing anyone. You're analysis of Gostisbehere is not correct in my opinion. Last season, Gostisbehere was one of the top point producers among all NHL defenseman. When he was on the ice the team controlled play and the team scored 56% of the goals. That is one of the highest totals in the league among NHL defenseman. He has his weaknesses but they are diminished by his elite puck skills and production in a normal season. - MJL
I agree, he needs the right partner and the forwards need to do their part. Ghost has been aweful however |
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xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Hamilton, ON Joined: 06.25.2010
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Whatever tier you have Matthews in then I would put Marner with him, he has shown he is just important to the Leafs as Matthews is this year. - Glak18
No way Matthews is much better than Marner. He is Tier 1 for sure. Not saying it is impossible for Marner to get there. I just dont see it. |
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