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AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Dec 15 @ 12:32 PM ET
Exactly. What do I want for Simmonds? Either a late 1st or a 2nd plus a prospect.
- BiggE


That's what they should expect to get, and likely will should they move him. I think they will
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Dec 15 @ 12:33 PM ET
I have a hard time staying up past 10. Not excited to fight to stay awake
- MJL


They would've put a meth head to sleep last night
Djapana
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Sunset Dreaming, FL
Joined: 09.16.2017

Dec 15 @ 12:33 PM ET
Ratcliffe cut from Team Canada WJC
FlyerFan16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 09.21.2014

Dec 15 @ 12:33 PM ET
Marner isn't going to be available.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Dec 15 @ 12:36 PM ET
Make no mistake Bill I do not mean to antagonize, just frustrated.

I really think lucrative NHL level talent does not grow on trees. And if Marner finishes in top 10 of points and will need a contract Toronto cannot afford, we should trade anything (within reason) we can to add that.

9 years younger than G.

But I get it, no guarantees. Which is why the front office is paid so much.

Do something to inspire these fans! Right?

- DrMidnite



I understand. We're all frustrated.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Dec 15 @ 12:37 PM ET
I don't know how long he will last but in my opinion, the signs are still clearly there with Simmonds.
- MJL


Signs?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 15 @ 12:41 PM ET
Guys I’m not moving:
Provorov
Sanheim
Myers
Patrick
Konecny
Giroux
Couturier
Frost
Farabee
Hart
2019s 1st

Guys I don’t want to move, but would in the right deal:
Ghost
Morin
Lindblom
Laughton
Ratcliffe
O’Brien
Allison
Lacyzinski
Sandstrom
Stolarz
Any future 1st round picks

Pretty much everyone and everything else is fair game.
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Dec 15 @ 12:41 PM ET
I understand. We're all frustrated.
- bmeltzer


I love your blogs and this board!

It should be a Non-profit, haha
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Dec 15 @ 12:42 PM ET
Exactly. What do I want for Simmonds? Either a late 1st or a 2nd plus a prospect.
- BiggE

This is the problem!! What about this makes the team better now??

You know what we need? Roster players. A franchise game changer. Good luck to us all if Morgan Frost, German Rubtsov or Joel Farabee is that player. If you really want more of these Schenn deals, tank! I’m not joking, tank! You can’t win a Cup without hitting rock bottom.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 15 @ 12:44 PM ET
This is the problem!! What about this makes the team better now??

You know what we need? Roster players. A franchise game changer. Good luck to us all if Morgan Frost, German Rubtsov or Joel Farabee is that player. If you really want more of these Schenn deals, tank! I’m not joking, tank! You can’t win a Cup without hitting rock bottom.

- SuperSchennBros


The teams that are going to be interested in a vet on an expiring contract like Simmonds are contenders. Contenders aren’t going to move good roster players.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 15 @ 12:46 PM ET
Guys I’m not moving:
Provorov
Sanheim
Myers
Patrick
Konecny
Giroux
Couturier
Frost
Farabee
Hart
2019s 1st

Guys I don’t want to move, but would in the right deal:
Ghost
Morin
Lindblom
Laughton
Ratcliffe
O’Brien
Allison
Lacyzinski
Sandstrom
Stolarz
Any future 1st round picks

Pretty much everyone and everything else is fair game.

- BiggE


I have to move Gostisbehere up to the other list. If you put him on a team such as Toronto, Nashville, or TB, my what numbers he would produce.
FlyerFan16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 09.21.2014

Dec 15 @ 12:50 PM ET
Guys I’m not moving:
Provorov
Sanheim
Myers
Patrick
Konecny
Giroux
Couturier
Frost
Farabee
Hart
2019s 1st

Guys I don’t want to move, but would in the right deal:
Ghost
Morin
Lindblom
Laughton
Ratcliffe
O’Brien
Allison
Lacyzinski
Sandstrom
Stolarz
Any future 1st round picks

Pretty much everyone and everything else is fair game.

- BiggE


I love this list. You have 20 players listed as guys you don't want to move, around 13 of which are either in the NHL or close to being ready (I'm excluding college, juniors and Europeans). It's dark times right now but exciting times aren't that far away.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 15 @ 12:51 PM ET
They would've put a meth head to sleep last night
- AllInForFlyers


I went to bed after the 2nd period.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Dec 15 @ 12:52 PM ET
The teams that are going to be interested in a vet on an expiring contract like Simmonds are contenders. Contenders aren’t going to move good roster players.
- BiggE

Tank. Burn it down.

What you guys want, won’t happen until you get the game changer you’re looking for.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Dec 15 @ 12:52 PM ET
I have a hard time staying up past 10. Not excited to fight to stay awake
- MJL

I work out while watching games now. At least I have something positive to take away from garbage performances and heartbreaking loses now.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Dec 15 @ 12:54 PM ET
I went to bed after the 2nd period.
- MJL


I figured as much -- I saw you stopped commenting. I don't blame you, because I should've

Bundy is at his wit's end. Poor guy doesn't want to be critical, really doesn't, but you can tell he thinks some drastic stuff needs to be done
Djapana
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Sunset Dreaming, FL
Joined: 09.16.2017

Dec 15 @ 12:54 PM ET
I have to move Gostisbehere up to the other list. If you put him on a team such as Toronto, Nashville, or TB, my what numbers he would produce.
- MJL




They don’t need him. Reilly, Subban and Hedman are much better players than Ghost
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Dec 15 @ 12:54 PM ET
They would've put a meth head to sleep last night
- AllInForFlyers

4 stroke gang represent
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Dec 15 @ 12:56 PM ET
Tank. Burn it down.

What you guys want, won’t happen until you get the game changer you’re looking for.

- SuperSchennBros


Truthfully? They didn't intend for it, and they probably won't try, but they might as well for this season

Something's not right with this team. It's not just the coaches, the goaltending

Something's not right with this team, and while I will lose my mind if they do it, I can see reasons to strip this thing down for parts
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 15 @ 12:57 PM ET
They don’t need him. Reilly, Subban and Hedman are much better players than Ghost
- Djapana


My point wasn't about those teams needing him. It was how Gostisbehere's elite puck skills would work on a team that pushes play and attacks the opposition on a better team.
Djapana
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Sunset Dreaming, FL
Joined: 09.16.2017

Dec 15 @ 1:01 PM ET
My point wasn't about those teams needing him. It was how Gostisbehere's elite puck skills would work on a team that pushes play and attacks the opposition on a better team.
- MJL

On a good team he is a 3rd pair PP specialist getting far less TOI than he gets here.
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Dec 15 @ 1:02 PM ET
Tank. Burn it down.

What you guys want, won’t happen until you get the game changer you’re looking for.

- SuperSchennBros


And the easiest way to get that game changer is to draft them, but no one wants to do that.

Not even first pick necessarily but maybe have the best chance to get a good pick like BHawks and Toews in 06. Move guys for younger ones consistently, that is how you last and weed out lesser players.

We are not winning this year or next. Accept that and GM accordingly.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Dec 15 @ 1:03 PM ET
Tank. Burn it down.

What you guys want, won’t happen until you get the game changer you’re looking for.

- SuperSchennBros

Even if you tank you're still going to have to move Simmonds, to a contender. And that's going to get you a prospect or a pick. A rental Isn't going to get you an immediate roster player of value.

Simmonds for a prospect that's knocking on the door but isn't quite there yet. That's the best case scenario for a "quick impact".
RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.17.2013

Dec 15 @ 1:03 PM ET
Don’t get to watch many Flyers games so I’m just throwing the question out there....how different is this team this season had you guys had some luck in finding a #1 goalie? It amazes me that a HOF goalie couldn’t get one for whatever reason
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Dec 15 @ 1:04 PM ET
Don’t get to watch many Flyers games so I’m just throwing the question out there....how different is this team this season had you guys had some luck in finding a #1 goalie? It amazes me that a HOF goalie couldn’t get one for whatever reason
- RatedR80

Even with the goalie carousel goaltending has been far from the main issue this year. Team defense and consistent effort remain the two things namely killing this team.
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