Does the odds look in favour that leafs can make it happen and have him extended and if so we send nylander the other way
- BreathLeafs2015

Dubas is not trading Nylander right after saying he promised him he wouldn't trade him

And I'm just pointing out that the Leafs need a #1 RHD and saying no to them is to the detriment of the team.
- Unholy_Goalie

I normally don’t agree with you with trading for number 1 RHD because the ones you usually list are never available or you offer Nylander for a two year rental....

However in this case...Petro could be available. It’s leaked out that the Blues will consider it.

This is a legitimate good opportunity

Well if there's any truth to this rumor Dubas wouldn't trade an unsigned Nylander for him so he won't be trading a the one guy he has signed long term and has publically said he's not trading. So besides Nylander what gets us Pietrangelo.
- HealthyScratch6

Wait 1.5 years the snake is strong in him

https://www.sportsnet.ca/...mped-inaugural-moms-trip/

Not sure if we talked about this but we are having a who has the hottest mom contest

Dubas is not trading Nylander right after saying he promised him he wouldn't trade him
- HealthyScratch6

Yup.

Leafs should trade anyone not named; Rielly, Kadri, Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Tavares, or Andersen for Parayko.

I would also be very reluctant to trade Liljegren or Sandin.

UG's Mindless Midnight Rants

Why did we give away McElhinney?
Why did we give away Leivo?
We can't get JT because ....... Taxes
We need Karlsson now, eight firsts and every forward that scored more than 20 goals.
Lets get a RHD from a Last place team for 2 or 3 front line players. (er, um just like Trump " let's make a sh!thole team great again")
Blah Blah Blah
- winsix

I get that he's not well liked around here and I get why, but he does make valid points, at least as much or even more than most.

Yup.

Leafs should trade anyone not named; Rielly, Kadri, Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Tavares, or Andersen for Parayko.

I would also be very reluctant to trade Liljegren or Sandin.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

I'd trade liljegren before sandin even though he's a right shot.

Well if there's any truth to this rumor Dubas wouldn't trade an unsigned Nylander for him so he won't be trading a the one guy he has signed long term and has publically said he's not trading. So besides Nylander what gets us Pietrangelo.
- HealthyScratch6

Not true.

Gotta say, good call on Pietro, I guess all that discussion was worth it.
- 13sundin13

Thanks. To me, it seemed obvious. Too many things were lining up. Now, Dubas just has to get it done.

UG's Mindless Midnight Rants

McElhinney is a fluke and there's no way he repeats his breakout season
Why did we give away McElhinney?
Why did we give away Leivo?
We can't get JT because ....... Taxes
We need Karlsson now, eight firsts and every forward that scored more than 20 goals.
Lets get a RHD from a Last place team for 2 or 3 front line players. (er, um just like Trump " let's make a sh!thole team great again")
Blah Blah Blah
- winsix

Fixed

Gotta say, good call on Pietro, I guess all that discussion was worth it.
- 13sundin13

It was offering Nylander that was dumb.

I agree with him on aquiring him with a McDonagh like package. A tad more because he’s a bit better.

Not true.
- Unholy_Goalie

He actually said he has no INTENTION of jettisoning off his young players

I get that he's not well liked around here and I get why, but he does make valid points, at least as much or even more than most.
- 13sundin13

Everyone is definitely entitled to his or her opinion. It is rather difficult to accept an opinion when it is presented as a fact and he mocks anyone in disagreement.

Not true.
- Unholy_Goalie

True. A reporter quoted willy to him saying that willy had said Dubas promised not to trade him and all Dubas said was I don't know why that would come as a shock to you. We are not in the business of trading good young players. We want to hold onto our good young players.

I'd trade liljegren before sandin even though he's a right shot.
- HealthyScratch6

If it gets the Leafs the right guy, they're both expendable.

Thanks. To me, it seemed obvious. Too many things were lining up. Now, Dubas just has to get it done.
- Unholy_Goalie

I think he was a being facetious.

Thanks bruh.. I came up with the bat-poop stupid trade proposal all by myself. Nastradumbass

Everyone is definitely entitled to his or her opinion. It is rather difficult to accept an opinion when it is presented as a fact and he mocks anyone in disagreement.
- winsix

This is true

True. A reporter quoted willy to him saying that willy had said Dubas promised not to trade him and all Dubas said was I don't know why that would come as a shock to you. We are not in the business of trading good young players. We want to hold onto our good young players.
- HealthyScratch6

False. Dubas clarified but he still danced around the question. Nylander was specifically worried about a sign and trade, which they didn't do. That's all PR bullpoop. Reality is, he doesn't have a NTC and if the right deal came along, he'd make the deal if he's doing his job right.

If it gets the Leafs the right guy, they're both expendable.
- Unholy_Goalie

If you're going after a high priced player you're going to need young cheap talent to fill out the roster. Definitely going to have to give up a first.

It was offering Nylander that was dumb.

I agree with him on aquiring him with a McDonagh like package. A tad more because he’s a bit better.
- Santo_44

No, it isn't.

He makes a lot of money and they'd still need to clear cap space to sign Pietrangelo long term.

Obviously, if they can get Pietrangelo for less (Zaitsev + Johnsson) then that's better. But if it's a bidding war and the price goes up, moving Nylander works too, albeit a less than ideal situation.

But either way, the Leafs come out ahead, it's just a matter of by how much. If they acquired Pietrangelo and wanted to re-sign him to a an 8 year, 8 AAV deal, somebody would have to go and Nylander would be the easiest, single piece to move. Unless Marleau retires right on time.

False. Dubas clarified but he still danced around the question. Nylander was specifically worried about a sign and trade, which they didn't do. That's all PR bullpoop. Reality is, he doesn't have a NTC and if the right deal came along, he'd make the deal if he's doing his job right.
- Unholy_Goalie

I'll admit that he didn't say "I will not trade William Nylander" but Dubas is not a politician. He insinuated that he had told willy he won't be trading him while he's the gm. No player is gonna trust him while negotiating whether it be a free agent or an rfa if he goes against his word. Not good for business. Especially when you have two tough contracts coming up.

If you're going after a high priced player you're going to need young cheap talent to fill out the roster. Definitely going to have to give up a first.
- HealthyScratch6

Cheap talent can be 1 year UFAs too. I'd like young players to fill out the line-up too but big name RHD are going to cost a premium so if that cost is an unknown prospect, at this point in the game, they have to go with the #1 RHD and worry about replacing the prospect another way.

man Pittsburg has really disappointed me this year.
malkin -4 crosby -3 tonight.

I'll admit that he didn't say "I will not trade William Nylander" but Dubas is not a politician. He insinuated that he had told willy he won't be trading him while he's the gm. No player is gonna trust him while negotiating whether it be a free agent or an rfa if he goes against his word. Not good for business. Especially when you have two tough contracts coming up.
- HealthyScratch6

He certainly was that day.

All he said was that he wasn't actively looking to trade Nylander. And that's the smartest thing to say at that moment. But by no means is it a guarantee that he will never be traded. Talk to Masai about "not being traded". If the right deal comes up, the deal is made. The only thing that stops it is a NMC/NTC and Nylander doesn't have one. And even if he did, it's just a speed bump most of the time.

What's "not good for business" is contract hold outs and not improving your team. His obligation is to improve the team. If he passes on deals that improve the team for some bullpoop PR words he said, he's not doing his job properly.

man Pittsburg has really disappointed me this year.
malkin -4 crosby -3 tonight.
- dmnted

Injured / garbage goaltending.