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Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Dec 12 @ 8:27 AM ET

Anyone else see that we will have 51 million in cap space next year ? 👀
landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Dec 12 @ 8:30 AM ET
I wonder what team shows up tonight ? it's hard to know. Bill shows Stollie starting, both my sports apps have Nuevy in net...yikes. Calgary is a good team playing well and Edmonton appears to have turned a corner as well....Two really good tests that might go a long way to which path Fletcher takes with this team.
jaws1955
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Blairstown, NJ
Joined: 12.30.2015

Dec 12 @ 8:32 AM ET
I like G at center for now and want to see how his line goes with some REAL center depth. Would like a bit different look.
JVR, G, TK
Lindblom, Patrick, Jake
Laughton, Coots,,Simmer
Raffl, Lehtera, Weiss
Last time Coots centered that line he had 4 goals and 2 assists in 2 games vs the Pens.
Can't stop all 3 of those lines and the 4th Is big, solid d and 2 can skate.
landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Dec 12 @ 8:33 AM ET
This is true. Sadly, AMac has had about 3 good games all season.
- BiggE[url]


he hasn't been good....actually he's been terrible. I'm not a big AMC guy, but he's better then what he's playing. Hopefully the D is addressed along with the goalies....although that is easier said then done .
flyeredup85
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: ON
Joined: 04.05.2012

Dec 12 @ 8:34 AM ET
Good news i think Flyers win the next 3.Bad news they will lose the 4 games after the 3 wins.Seriously if you do bet here and there.Flyers are great value tonight.
landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Dec 12 @ 8:35 AM ET
I like G at center for now and want to see how his line goes with some REAL center depth. Would like a bit different look.
JVR, G, TK
Lindblom, Patrick, Jake
Laughton, Coots,,Simmer
Raffl, Lehtera, Weiss
Last time Coots centered that line he had 4 goals and 2 assists in 2 games vs the Pens.
Can't stop all 3 of those lines and the 4th I'd big, solid d and 2 can skate.

- jaws1955


I like that Hak is changing it up....he needs too. G is great at either position. Where ever he helps the rest of the lineup is where he should play, based on depth issues.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 12 @ 8:37 AM ET
Anyone else see that we will have 51 million in cap space next year ? 👀
- Tfaehner



31.9, not counting the rumored increase.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 12 @ 8:38 AM ET
Playing Giroux at center is probably best for the Flyers right now. Long term it's not the best thing for Giroux.
wcorvette
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Dec 12 @ 8:46 AM ET
Playing Giroux at center is probably best for the Flyers right now. Long term it's not the best thing for Giroux.
- MJL



If it works in the short term it would also help them if they make a trade. I know centers will draw a high price but when you deal from desperation the overpay is even more. The lines give Raffle and Laughton time to showcase their value.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 12 @ 8:47 AM ET
31.9, not counting the rumored increase.
- MJL

And some of that will go towards extending Provy, TK and Sanheim. Factoring in the increase and re-signing those 3, they should have about 25-28 million to work with and will need to add 2 goalies, and at least 3-4 forwards.
wcorvette
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Dec 12 @ 8:50 AM ET
And some of that will go towards extending Provy, TK and Sanheim. Factoring in the increase and re-signing those 3, they should have about 25-28 million to work with and will need to add 2 goalies, and at least 3-4 forwards.
- BiggE



kill joy, stop spending all our money
leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.16.2009

Dec 12 @ 8:51 AM ET
Playing Giroux at center is probably best for the Flyers right now. Long term it's not the best thing for Giroux.
- MJL


I agree. People tend to forget there was a reason that he was moved to the wing. His game at center was slipping. I think he'll do fine back at center for a while, but his game will slip again over the long haul. Obviously, part of these depends on who's playing on his wings. If/When G goes back to the wing... I would like to see him on Nolan's wings - I don't think Hak has played him there??? I don't think anyone has thrown it out there as an option? Nolan is in a sophomore slump, G may help him out of it and help his long term development in the NHL.
wcorvette
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Dec 12 @ 8:51 AM ET
I agree. People tend to forget there was a reason that he was moved to the wing. His game at center was slipping. I think he'll do fine back at center for a while, but his game will slip again over the long haul. Obviously, part of these depends on who's playing on his wings. If/When G goes back to the wing... I would like to see him on Nolan's wings - I don't think Hak has played him there??? I don't think anyone has thrown it out there as an option? Nolan is in a sophomore slump, G may help him out of it and help his long term development in the NHL.
- leon neon


like the idea
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 12 @ 8:53 AM ET
I agree. People tend to forget there was a reason that he was moved to the wing. His game at center was slipping. I think he'll do fine back at center for a while, but his game will slip again over the long haul. Obviously, part of these depends on who's playing on his wings. If/When G goes back to the wing... I would like to see him on Nolan's wings - I don't think Hak has played him there??? I don't think anyone has thrown it out there as an option? Nolan is in a sophomore slump, G may help him out of it and help his long term development in the NHL.
- leon neon



I think Giroux is just as capable at center as he is at wing. The issue in my opinion is more wear and tear. I think the best shot at keeping Giroux a top player longer is to play him on the wing.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Dec 12 @ 9:02 AM ET
And some of that will go towards extending Provy, TK and Sanheim. Factoring in the increase and re-signing those 3, they should have about 25-28 million to work with and will need to add 2 goalies, and at least 3-4 forwards.
- BiggE


I am only counting active contracts which is 11. I get 12 guys have to be signed with thst but 51 is a huge wiggle room. Especially considering you expect some rookie contracts to be there
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 12 @ 9:04 AM ET
Did you have lunch with each of the defensemen to find this out or is this another one of your opinion that you treat as a fact.
- Shrike


AMac is a legit NHL defenseman, just not a top-pair player like he was cast. When at his best, he's a very valuable player on our young blue line. Sadly, he hasn't been at his best most of the year. That still makes him a much better choice than Folin.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Dec 12 @ 9:05 AM ET
I think Giroux is just as capable at center as he is at wing. The issue in my opinion is more wear and tear. I think the best shot at keeping Giroux a top player longer is to play him on the wing.
- MJL



The move had to be made with the way Patrick is playing.

They have to figure out a way to get him going. With him dropping to the 3rd line it seems like a solid time to get him back with Lindblom who he seemed to have chemistry with

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 12 @ 9:06 AM ET
I am only counting active contracts which is 11. I get 12 guys have to be signed with thst but 51 is a huge wiggle room. Especially considering you expect some rookie contracts to be there
- Tfaehner



They don't have 51M in cap space next year.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 12 @ 9:10 AM ET
I am only counting active contracts which is 11. I get 12 guys have to be signed with thst but 51 is a huge wiggle room. Especially considering you expect some rookie contracts to be there
- Tfaehner


https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/flyers

It's $31M. Where are you getting the $51M? Are you confusing cap space with salary ("real-dollar") expenditure?
leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.16.2009

Dec 12 @ 9:11 AM ET
I think Giroux is just as capable at center as he is at wing. The issue in my opinion is more wear and tear. I think the best shot at keeping Giroux a top player longer is to play him on the wing.
- MJL


And, I think there is more pressure at the center position. People tend to judge the value of the line by the center, more-so than the wingers. Not that G can't handle it, he has and will continue to be a great center. When he got moved to wing, he excelled at wing, which may have been him feeling more at ease.
Briere
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.02.2011

Dec 12 @ 9:16 AM ET
AMac is a legit NHL defenseman, just not a top-pair player like he was cast. When at his best, he's a very valuable player on our young blue line. Sadly, he hasn't been at his best most of the year. That still makes him a much better choice than Folin.
- jmatchett383


Folin is awful. Amac, when playing is well is much better player than Folin.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Dec 12 @ 9:25 AM ET
kill joy, stop spending all our money
- wcorvette


I wouldn't worry.. those 3 will be gone before the tdl! Hahah jk..

This better turn out to be a joke Fletch!
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Dec 12 @ 9:26 AM ET
I think Giroux is just as capable at center as he is at wing. The issue in my opinion is more wear and tear. I think the best shot at keeping Giroux a top player longer is to play him on the wing.
- MJL


I agree with the wear and tear issue. He's just not a big body and on the wing he can focus more on creating o huh he's done.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 12 @ 9:40 AM ET
The talk that Fletcher is going to make major roster moves in a bid to make the playoffs is scary. This team is toast with Coach Clueless in charge.
landros 2
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Dec 12 @ 9:42 AM ET
https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/flyers

It's $31M. Where are you getting the $51M? Are you confusing cap space with salary ("real-dollar") expenditure?

- jmatchett383


all the forwards totaled 32 mil.....which is probably where he got his number...the D totaled 14 mil.....so ya your right...but that doesn't include any RFA's or UFA's or players that will be added or subtracted.
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