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Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Dec 12 @ 5:57 PM ET
8-2-1 with the Oil, Hawks shoulda hired Hitch.
- Butcherboy66


Hitch pretty much said that EDM was the only job he would have considered.
glennjpawlak22
Joined: 11.26.2013

Dec 12 @ 6:00 PM ET
With the way JC likes to double shift Kane - push him a little harder:

Saad-Toews-Kane
DeBrincat-Strome-Kane
Kahun-Kampf-Kane
Sikura-Kruger-Kane

- EbonyRaptor


Very interesting - you also might free up a few Million of Cap space
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Dec 12 @ 6:01 PM ET
With the way JC likes to double shift Kane - push him a little harder:

Saad-Toews-Kane
DeBrincat-Strome-Kane
Kahun-Kampf-Kane
Sikura-Kruger-Kane

- EbonyRaptor


That looks legit. I think Kane plays D now too.

Keith - Kane
Kane - Seabrook
Manning - Kane
riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

Dec 12 @ 6:01 PM ET
With the way JC likes to double shift Kane - push him a little harder:

Saad-Toews-Kane
DeBrincat-Strome-Kane
Kahun-Kampf-Kane
Sikura-Kruger-Kane

- EbonyRaptor


If the team is truly tanking, Kane should not see more than 16 minutes of wear and tear a night. This double shifting is just nuts.
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Dec 12 @ 6:01 PM ET
OK Rutherford -

Saad, Keith and Crawford for Parayko, Tarasenko and Fitzpatrick. Not that 2 or 50 would consent, but seems fair.

- Return of the Roar


Not sure what you mean by that?

A massive trade, in division also. Not sure. I would say seems fair too.
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Dec 12 @ 6:02 PM ET
Islanders also have free agents to resign. I know Panarin is open to NY, but I think he said Rangers. I know you just meant it as speculation.
- I Am The Breadman


I'm actually gonna be shocked if Panarin isn't a Ranger next season.
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Dec 12 @ 6:03 PM ET
Hitch pretty much said that EDM was the only job he would have considered.
- Chunk


Makes sense. They have some really good young pieces and a lot more to work with in terms of improvement.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Dec 12 @ 6:04 PM ET
With the way JC likes to double shift Kane - push him a little harder:

Saad-Toews-Kane
DeBrincat-Strome-Kane
Kahun-Kampf-Kane
Sikura-Kruger-Kane

- EbonyRaptor


Spam Spam Spam Spam Eggs and Spam.
Return of the Roar
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Solidly grounded in reality, IL
Joined: 07.27.2009

Dec 12 @ 6:05 PM ET
Not sure what you mean by that?

A massive trade, in division also. Not sure. I would say seems fair too.

- I Am The Breadman


Since Stan is probably half way through a bag of kettle chips doing nothing right now I thought I would proxy.
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Dec 12 @ 6:09 PM ET
Since Stan is probably half way through a bag of kettle chips doing nothing right now I thought I would proxy.
- Return of the Roar


Ahhh, okay. I understand haha.
pdx2ord
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Dec 12 @ 6:10 PM ET
What could the NHL possibly be suggesting with these new phone wallpaper pics they just put out?



I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Dec 12 @ 6:10 PM ET
I'm actually gonna be shocked if Panarin isn't a Ranger next season.
- breadbag


We shall see......
PatShart
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Vegas, NV
Joined: 06.25.2015

Dec 12 @ 6:10 PM ET
That would be a terrible trade for STL

If they sell...they definitely wouldn't package Vlad and Colton. They'd get way more in separate deals. And I'm sure it would be to get younger prospects and picks

I could see them shipping Vlad to like the NYR...then the Rangers going after Panarin in the off season
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Dec 12 @ 6:11 PM ET
Two top ten picks would be amazing
- Savetheembers33

Would love to have two #1 picks again, especially top 10. Just playing out this fantasy:

https://www.draftsite.com/nhl/mock-draft/2019/

Draftsite's 2019 draft projections as of today. Hawks at #3 taking Dylan Cozens (C) and Avalanche at #7 taking Arthur Kaliyev (RW). Others in the top 10 besides Hughes and Kakko:

Podkolzin (RW)
Broberg (D)
Dach (C)
Lavoie (C)
Byram (D)
Boldy (LW)

p.s. If you do a web search for Dylan Cozens, be sure to type "hockey" as an extra search term or else you get Phillies outfielder by the same name. It's like Connor Murphy and the bodybuilder who comes up first in searches.
Return of the Roar
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Solidly grounded in reality, IL
Joined: 07.27.2009

Dec 12 @ 6:12 PM ET
That would be a terrible trade for STL

If they sell...they definitely wouldn't package Vlad and Colton. They'd get way more in separate deals. And I'm sure it would be to get younger prospects and picks

I could see them shipping Vlad to like the NYR...then the Rangers going after Panarin in the off season

- PatShart


Always start terrible and work to better.
Taylorst1
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2018

Dec 12 @ 6:14 PM ET
Also, I do appreciate the criticism towards Jeremy Colliton.

I think he will be continually judged as time goes on as his tenure here.

It is his job to get this thing somewhat turned around. What I don't think is fair is the team he's been handed however. That's on Stan.

- Justin Lowe




This whole dumpster fire is clearly on Stan. It starts from him not aggressively making impactful moves 2 years ago , then followed up by his awful limited moves this summer, but to top it off he fired a HOF coach to pass the blame off oh himself onto and in turn promoted a inexperienced unproven guy to coach this team?


Colliton inexperience is showing , at least if coach Q was here I do believe this team as badly constructed as it is and limited in talent would not night after night , come unprepared and be more productive.



walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Dec 12 @ 6:21 PM ET
This whole dumpster fire is clearly on Stan. It starts from him not aggressively making impactful moves 2 years ago , then followed up by his awful limited moves this summer, but to top it off he fired a HOF coach to pass the blame off oh himself onto and in turn promoted a inexperienced unproven guy to coach this team?


Colliton inexperience is showing , at least if coach Q was here I do believe this team as badly constructed as it is and limited in talent would not night after night , come unprepared and be more productive.

- Taylorst1


Yeah and we might be 20th instead of 31st so there is that.
HamiltonHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.13.2015

Dec 12 @ 6:23 PM ET
Toronto would never do this trade.

With Keith, I think you have to look for cash strapped contenders.

Avs
Keith

Blackhawks
Matt Nieto
and their first round pick from the Sens.

- walleyeb1

You don't think Toronto will trade Kapanen but Colorado would give Nieto and possibly Jack Hughes?
Really don't think the Leafs would want Keith .
Not with him making 5.5 a year for the next what 5 years.
Leafs are gonna have to watch their cap for next year.
Leafs should go all in this year but I don't think Keith will be the route they go.
Spec41971
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Rolling meadows, IL
Joined: 03.04.2017

Dec 12 @ 6:24 PM ET
A mic drop worthy post my frent.
- Return of the Roar

Thank you!
ObeseOprah
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 01.17.2014

Dec 12 @ 6:25 PM ET
This whole dumpster fire is clearly on Stan. It starts from him not aggressively making impactful moves 2 years ago , then followed up by his awful limited moves this summer, but to top it off he fired a HOF coach to pass the blame off oh himself onto and in turn promoted a inexperienced unproven guy to coach this team?


Colliton inexperience is showing , at least if coach Q was here I do believe this team as badly constructed as it is and limited in talent would not night after night , come unprepared and be more productive.

- Taylorst1


I’m glad we’re not in 24th or 25th. We need top pick talent. If you’re not going to make the playoffs you might as well have the best chances of a top pick. Islanders have been a bubble team for ten years and they still terrible. Picking 14-25 in the draft won’t get you far unless you make great selections. Hawks are guaranteed a 4th overall at least as of right now.
Spec41971
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Rolling meadows, IL
Joined: 03.04.2017

Dec 12 @ 6:35 PM ET
I agree with this strategy. Some teams call it "shrinking the ice" so the other team has less real estate to play with. Pressure early and often: start with the O-zone blue line, then the neutral zone, then the D-zone blueline. If all else fails, then keep the team to the perimeter and be physical as much as being a stick checker.
- AEL_Fox


And even if they lose playing this way, they will probably be a bell of a lot more competitive and entertaining
Z3Hawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.04.2017

Dec 12 @ 6:35 PM ET
Does Messier have any Front office experience??
- EnzoD


Thought for a while he was working with Sather with the Rangers. Think this was getting counter-balanced with a huge love of family life in the Carolinas.
glennjpawlak22
Joined: 11.26.2013

Dec 12 @ 6:35 PM ET
You don't think Toronto will trade Kapanen but Colorado would give Nieto and possibly Jack Hughes?
Really don't think the Leafs would want Keith .
Not with him making 5.5 a year for the next what 5 years.
Leafs are gonna have to watch their cap for next year.
Leafs should go all in this year but I don't think Keith will be the route they go.

- HamiltonHawk


Too bad Stan wasnt GM of another team, loves to give it up at the Trade deadline -
Z3Hawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.04.2017

Dec 12 @ 6:42 PM ET
its been men vs boys for quite awhile...

0-6 in december...nothing close to complete 60 minute game; 40 second lead in the last 660 minutes of hockey....just wow.

i think they can eek out a few pts in december but it looks at best a 1-13-1

- bogiedoc


Yes Colliton blame the team you weak, no talent. No doubt the team has no respect for you and your Tier 2 Swedish Beer League resume. That you fooled Nepotism Bowman, who knows all about having a job he doesn’t deserve, was only the first step. You have no novel, special coaching skills, coaching ideas. The rest of the NHL is just laughing.
idol79
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Indian Head Park, IL
Joined: 11.22.2008

Dec 12 @ 6:43 PM ET
The Hawks went 3-5-1 in coach Q's last 9 games. They went 3-4-2 in JC's first 9. After the Schmaltz trade they're 0-8-0. I know Schmaltz was having a bad year but maybe the players really liked him and viewed him as a real talent? I mean they were bad before this trade but since it's been ridiculous. Maybe that trade was the last straw for some of the players. I agree Colliton as a 33 year old with no experience looks like a bad hire by Bowman (especially replacing a coach with Q's resume) but these guys since that trade look like they have given up completely.
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