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Shrike
Joined: 05.20.2016

Dec 11 @ 1:57 PM ET
Was that sarcasm?
- Glak18

Just making sure Mjl doesn’t respond to me that I said the opposite a couple days ago. I don’t want to listen to him defend hakstols system, which refuses to describe, for an hour.
leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.16.2009

Dec 11 @ 1:59 PM ET
Quick and Crawford are Stanley cup winning goalies. These are "contend now" type of moves, and they aren't there yet.

I would imagine there are younger options who are better than Elliot/Nuiverth. Plus I'd hate to see what those 2 goalies would cost.

- Pelle31Forever


"contend now"... Hell, the Flyers aren't "compete now" with the current line up of goalies. They have to explore looking at those goalies. We need some one to bridge the Hart gap. A goalie in the 32-33 age range would be perfect.

Crawford signed through 2020 (NMC), currently 33 with cap hit of $6M.
Quick signed through 2023 (might be to long until Hart), currently 32 with cap hit of $5.8M.

The question is who do the Hawks and Kings got, who's ready to step up as goalie. Who are we willing to give up.
Shrike
Joined: 05.20.2016

Dec 11 @ 2:00 PM ET
I believe you're insinuating things. I don't buy that he was being an ass. Hextall was doing exactly what he said he was going to do when he was hired. Hextall was inclined to make offers to Taveras and Stastny. He signed JVR. The next step will be taken by the young players.
- MJL

You don’t know that either.... unless holmgren told you that at your lunch with him.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Dec 11 @ 2:01 PM ET
I believe you're insinuating things. I don't buy that he was being an ass. Hextall was doing exactly what he said he was going to do when he was hired. Hextall was inclined to make offers to Taveras and Stastny. He signed JVR. The next step will be taken by the young players.
- MJL



Like you do?

All i can do is read reports that were out there and comments from people.

And you have no clue what offers were made. Were they talked about..sure. but we have no clue what offers are made to players.

You have this blind loyalty to Hextall. Holmgren said seral times "unyielding". So to me I take that is Hextall was going to do it his way and wasn't going to be flexible.

I am trying to take the information i have and try to decipher it.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 11 @ 2:03 PM ET
Like you do?

All i can do is read reports that were out there and comments from people.

And you have no clue what offers were made. Were they talked about..sure. but we have no clue what offers are made to players.

You have this blind loyalty to Hextall. Holmgren said seral times "unyielding". So to me I take that is Hextall was going to do it his way and wasn't going to be flexible.

I am trying to take the information i have and try to decipher it.

- J35Bacher


I didn't make a statement that Hextall was being an ass. Seems as though you have a blind loyalty to Holmgren.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 11 @ 2:05 PM ET
I didn't make a statement that Hextall was being an ass.
- MJL


Shrike
Joined: 05.20.2016

Dec 11 @ 2:05 PM ET
I didn't make a statement that Hextall was being an ass.
- MJL


Well now, being an ass is a subject that I have total confidence in your opinions. I mean with your years of experience you should know what your talking about.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 11 @ 2:08 PM ET
Well now, being an ass is a subject that I have total confidence in your opinions. I mean with your years of experience you should know what your talking about.
- Shrike


RustyPipes
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Williamsburg, VA
Joined: 03.09.2018

Dec 11 @ 2:11 PM ET

- Glak18

Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 11 @ 2:16 PM ET
Explain to me what makes you think Hextall would not have been fired if they were winning
- Shrike


Um, because they'd be winning
RustyPipes
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Williamsburg, VA
Joined: 03.09.2018

Dec 11 @ 2:16 PM ET
Quick and Crawford are Stanley cup winning goalies. These are "contend now" type of moves, and they aren't there yet.

I would imagine there are younger options who are better than Elliot/Nuiverth. Plus I'd hate to see what those 2 goalies would cost.

- Pelle31Forever

Just winning the Cup by itself doesn't instill confidence in me. Hell, Leighton was 1 OT goal and a victory away from the Cup and Niemi did win the Cup. So did Murray and from what I see, he is a dumpster fire now. See what I mean. Anyhow, I really don't care about their historic resume, I'd like a player who is doing decenlty well now. Jus' Sayn
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 11 @ 2:18 PM ET
Um, because they'd be winning
- Scoob


They'd be winning, which means fans would be more interested, which means more TV viewers and better ticket sales, which means more revenue.

Just to really break it down.
Shrike
Joined: 05.20.2016

Dec 11 @ 2:19 PM ET
Um, because they'd be winning
- Scoob

According to mjl just because something is obvious to 99 percent of people doesn’t make it true
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Dec 11 @ 2:19 PM ET
Have we traded for Quick yet? The playoff push needs to begin now.

The 2019 budget is due next week and inquiring minds need to know if the revenue for a couple extra home games can be counted on this season.

- StepfordSam

why not just sign bob
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 11 @ 2:22 PM ET
why not just sign bob
- 2Real


Only if Bob can keep the goals under 5 per game and promise to win 1 playoff series in his life.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Dec 11 @ 2:24 PM ET
Only if Bob can keep the goals under 5 per game and promise to win 1 playoff series in his life.
- Glak18

you really think we're making the playoffs next season?
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Dec 11 @ 2:25 PM ET
Like you do?

All i can do is read reports that were out there and comments from people.

And you have no clue what offers were made. Were they talked about..sure. but we have no clue what offers are made to players.

You have this blind loyalty to Hextall. Holmgren said seral times "unyielding". So to me I take that is Hextall was going to do it his way and wasn't going to be flexible.

I am trying to take the information i have and try to decipher it.

- J35Bacher


It's pretty clear to anyone listening why Hextall was fired. I also think those reasons point to some major changes on the horizon.
RustyPipes
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Williamsburg, VA
Joined: 03.09.2018

Dec 11 @ 2:25 PM ET
you really think we're making the playoffs next season?
- 2Real

I honestly believe that the Flyers are making the Playoffs this year and next.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 11 @ 2:26 PM ET
you really think we're making the playoffs next season?
- 2Real


If they don't make the playoffs next year then signing Bob as a UFA would be the dumbest thing since JvR for Schenn.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Dec 11 @ 2:27 PM ET
you really think we're making the playoffs next season?
- 2Real


why the hell not? hopefully the new GM can fill some holes....he has the assets, he has the cap space...and the Flyers have some really talented guys to build around..
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Dec 11 @ 2:27 PM ET
I honestly believe that the Flyers are making the Playoffs this year and next.
- RustyPipes

Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 11 @ 2:28 PM ET
I honestly believe that the Flyers are making the Playoffs this year and next.
- RustyPipes


No, that's his way of telling people what the Flyers need to do to be better, but at the same time tell everyone how the franchise is the worst in the league.
tkecanuck341
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Irvine, CA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Dec 11 @ 2:29 PM ET
Trade proposal from a Kings fan:

To Flyers:
Quick
Thompson

To Kings:
Elliott
Lehtera
Myers
2019 or 2020 1st round pick (Flyers choice)
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 11 @ 2:29 PM ET
Trade proposal from a Kings fan:

To Flyers:
Quick
Thompson

To Kings:
Elliott
Lehtera
Myers
2019 or 2020 1st round pick (Flyers choice)

- tkecanuck341


Didn't read. Nope

Edit: Couldn't help but go back and read.

1st and Myers? Someone is overvaluing Quick, I was thinking a 3rd and maybe a low tier prospect at most.

Lehtera isn't a big deal anymore, he is off the cap after this year. No need to add any value to take him off the books.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Dec 11 @ 2:30 PM ET
I honestly believe that the Flyers are making the Playoffs this year and next.
- RustyPipes

THIS YEAR?
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