He had pineapple on it
- dragonoffrost

PINEAPPLE ON PIZZA IS FANTASTIC

WE CANT BE FRIENDS ANYMORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He had pineapple on it
- dragonoffrost

That's why he didn't last in the NHL!

PINEAPPLE ON PIZZA IS FANTASTIC

WE CANT BE FRIENDS ANYMORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

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Dale Weise, the Jacquins of NHL players.
- BiggE

So? I'd be very happy if they signed him.
- Scoob

depends on term and $

PINEAPPLE ON PIZZA IS FANTASTIC

WE CANT BE FRIENDS ANYMORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Pineapple on pizza IS fantastic.

Did we just become best friends?

PINEAPPLE ON PIZZA IS FANTASTIC

WE CANT BE FRIENDS ANYMORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Only when paired with Canadian Bacon

LA will be fine.

I would love Quick on Philly but I am not willing to pay the price for him. End of the day he is signed until he is 37 which isnt bad for a goalie and at what will be a steal of a price at 5.8 mill. Goalies at that level are expensive and the going rates are climbing. As Cap increases so do Cap hits. You are going to see mor 8 mill Goalies going forward.

I can see a Market for Muzzin and Martinez which will fetch a good return given that they have another year at a cap friendly 4 mill, unlike AMac and his 5 mill.

The thing is with contracts like Phaneuf, Kovalchuk, Brown, Doughty, Kopitar they are basically there to stay. There will likely be some interest in some of those players but not enough that any will move.

You pretty much have that core for a while. Now Kings could jst be having a down year. They arent that bad of a team. There is a ton of skill there. Staying put could be their best option for now. I think they could easily bounce back but until they free up some space, they should not be handing out any more long term deals to FAs. Sign your RFAs and grab a journyman to fill holes until some of those contracts are gone.

You could probably deal Kovalchuk and Phaneuf in about 2 years . Toffoli, Muzzin, Martinez could be dealt this year. Carter can be dealt but probably better to keep him. Quick could be dealt to a contender in need of a goalie. Carolina comes to mind and you never really know with St. Louis. Philly is an option but I dont see it until offseason. I think they will take a look at what is available via FA but no guarantee that anyone signs. Edmonton, Calgary, Florida, Columbus, Ottawa, New Jersey and Vancouver could all look to LA for Quick come the offseason. These teams are either replacing aging goalies, Goalies walking away or just looking for an upgrade.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Also, I agree with almost all of this.

The Kings are better than they are playing. A lot of it has to do with their trying to shift to a speedy, skill-based system that they don't have the personnel to play. They've been playing a heavy, defense-first grind game for nearly a decade, and they decided to change to a speedy offense-first system overnight and are surprised when they still can't score but allow significantly more goals against. They need to decide whether they want to double down on fast and skilled, or revert to slow and heavy. It sounds like they're going the former route, so they have to move players. Most of them could have great success on other teams, just look at Tanner Pearson with Pittsburgh. Toffoli is one of only four 30g scorers on the Kings in the last decade. Muzzin and Martinez are both quality top-four defensemen. Carter would be an upgrade at 2C on more than half the teams in the league. Players like Lewis and Clifford would be solid bottom six acquisitions for teams looking to fill in those areas.

If the Kings do decide to blow it up, then it's up to Phaneuf and Kovalchuk if they want out. Kovalchuk would essentially need to decide where he wanted to go, and the Kings would just have to call that team and find out what they would give for him. I don't expect that they'd give up anything of value. The Kings might be able to pry a prospect or pick out of that team if they needed the Kings to take on a corresponding cap dump or retain salary to make Kovalchuk fit under the cap. Phaneuf isn't worth trading. Even in the final year of his contract, the Kings wouldn't really gain anything by shipping him out. They're better off just letting him play 6D and riding out the remainder of his contract.

Honestly, it works out better for LA if they sit on Quick until the off-season. If Quick is traded before the deadline, then Petersen becomes the presumed #1 goaltender, meaning he has grounds to ask for a significant raise. If Quick is still on the roster on July 1, then Petersen is the presumed backup, and will likely get six-figures on his next contract. I'd much rather have him sign for 2 years @ $950k than at $3M.

Also, I agree with almost all of this.

The Kings are better than they are playing. A lot of it has to do with their trying to shift to a speedy, skill-based system that they don't have the personnel to play. They've been playing a heavy, defense-first grind game for nearly a decade, and they decided to change to a speedy offense-first system overnight and are surprised when they still can't score but allow significantly more goals against. They need to decide whether they want to double down on fast and skilled, or revert to slow and heavy. It sounds like they're going the former route, so they have to move players. Most of them could have great success on other teams, just look at Tanner Pearson with Pittsburgh. Toffoli is one of only four 30g scorers on the Kings in the last decade. Muzzin and Martinez are both quality top-four defensemen. Carter would be an upgrade at 2C on more than half the teams in the league. Players like Lewis and Clifford would be solid bottom six acquisitions for teams looking to fill in those areas.

If the Kings do decide to blow it up, then it's up to Phaneuf and Kovalchuk if they want out. Kovalchuk would essentially need to decide where he wanted to go, and the Kings would just have to call that team and find out what they would give for him. I don't expect that they'd give up anything of value. The Kings might be able to pry a prospect or pick out of that team if they needed the Kings to take on a corresponding cap dump or retain salary to make Kovalchuk fit under the cap. Phaneuf isn't worth trading. Even in the final year of his contract, the Kings wouldn't really gain anything by shipping him out. They're better off just letting him play 6D and riding out the remainder of his contract.

Honestly, it works out better for LA if they sit on Quick until the off-season. If Quick is traded before the deadline, then Petersen becomes the presumed #1 goaltender, meaning he has grounds to ask for a significant raise. If Quick is still on the roster on July 1, then Petersen is the presumed backup, and will likely get six-figures on his next contract. I'd much rather have him sign for 2 years @ $950k than at $3M.
- tkecanuck341

The Kings when they were at their best were my favorite non-Flyer team to watch. They were never a slow team in my opinion. In fact they played a fast game. Sutter's mantra was to attack, not defend. Their transition and break out game was among the best in the league. They were definitely a strong team along the wall and in the neutral zone but they weren't slow. I think the middle to the bottom of the roster got worse and some key players aged.

Also, I agree with almost all of this.

The Kings are better than they are playing. A lot of it has to do with their trying to shift to a speedy, skill-based system that they don't have the personnel to play. They've been playing a heavy, defense-first grind game for nearly a decade, and they decided to change to a speedy offense-first system overnight and are surprised when they still can't score but allow significantly more goals against. They need to decide whether they want to double down on fast and skilled, or revert to slow and heavy. It sounds like they're going the former route, so they have to move players. Most of them could have great success on other teams, just look at Tanner Pearson with Pittsburgh. Toffoli is one of only four 30g scorers on the Kings in the last decade. Muzzin and Martinez are both quality top-four defensemen. Carter would be an upgrade at 2C on more than half the teams in the league. Players like Lewis and Clifford would be solid bottom six acquisitions for teams looking to fill in those areas.

If the Kings do decide to blow it up, then it's up to Phaneuf and Kovalchuk if they want out. Kovalchuk would essentially need to decide where he wanted to go, and the Kings would just have to call that team and find out what they would give for him. I don't expect that they'd give up anything of value. The Kings might be able to pry a prospect or pick out of that team if they needed the Kings to take on a corresponding cap dump or retain salary to make Kovalchuk fit under the cap. Phaneuf isn't worth trading. Even in the final year of his contract, the Kings wouldn't really gain anything by shipping him out. They're better off just letting him play 6D and riding out the remainder of his contract.

Honestly, it works out better for LA if they sit on Quick until the off-season. If Quick is traded before the deadline, then Petersen becomes the presumed #1 goaltender, meaning he has grounds to ask for a significant raise. If Quick is still on the roster on July 1, then Petersen is the presumed backup, and will likely get six-figures on his next contract. I'd much rather have him sign for 2 years @ $950k than at $3M.
- tkecanuck341

They certainly shouldn’t be in any hurry to trade quick regardless of how their going about rebuilding

Hawks getting hammered

Hawks getting hammered
- wcorvette

As are Wings

Sabres need to wake up

Hawks getting hammered
- wcorvette

The Hawks need to go full rebuild. If they can’t see that, well, that’s just sad.

As are Wings

Sabres need to wake up
- dragonoffrost

Buffalo is a team I could see being very interested in Simmonds. I’d happily move him straight up for their first.

Buffalo is a team I could see being very interested in Simmonds. I’d happily move him straight up for their first.
- BiggE

We’re about to go on a run. I sense it

The Kings when they were at their best were my favorite non-Flyer team to watch. They were never a slow team in my opinion. In fact they played a fast game. Sutter's mantra was to attack, not defend. Their transition and break out game was among the best in the league. They were definitely a strong team along the wall and in the neutral zone but they weren't slow. I think the middle to the bottom of the roster got worse and some key players aged.
- MJL

I've talked with Jim Fox a few times about the Kings system, and he had mentioned that one of the reasons why the Kings had trouble scoring was due to the nature of Sutter's system and that the F3 was always ready to retreat at a moment's notice. Two-man forecheck and cycle along the boards, pass to the F3 or defenseman, then crash the net for rebounds. They were aggressive on the forecheck, but unlike a lot of offense-first teams, the F3's primary responsibility was defense. Sutter's system valued possession and shot quantity over quality, hence why the Kings were Corsi leaders during his entire tenure.

When I say "slow", I don't necessarily mean that the players are slow, just that when they're playing their game, the puck isn't moving very fast. You didn't see a lot of odd-man rushes in a Kings game, in either direction. Collapse 3 men on the defense, gain control of the puck, move with possession out of the zone, then dump the puck in, hammer their defensemen into the boards, then gain control and cycle, always ready to retreat if the puck is turned over. It was a very successful system when implemented properly, which the Kings did nearly to perfection from 2012-2014. However, they started making choices about players to keep once their core players started earning raises, and they chose to keep a lot of the wrong players. They let Mitchell, Williams, and Scuderi (before he sucked) walk, while re-signing players like Gaborik, who didn't fit the system, to try to add goal scoring. They could no longer ice the correct personnel to play the system, and their production started to suffer.

Bernier collapsing like a gingerbread house

I've talked with Jim Fox a few times about the Kings system, and he had mentioned that one of the reasons why the Kings had trouble scoring was due to the nature of Sutter's system and that the F3 was always ready to retreat at a moment's notice. Two-man forecheck and cycle along the boards, pass to the F3 or defenseman, then crash the net for rebounds. They were aggressive on the forecheck, but unlike a lot of offense-first teams, the F3's primary responsibility was defense. Sutter's system valued possession and shot quantity over quality, hence why the Kings were Corsi leaders during his entire tenure.

When I say "slow", I don't necessarily mean that the players are slow, just that when they're playing their game, the puck isn't moving very fast. You didn't see a lot of odd-man rushes in a Kings game, in either direction. Collapse 3 men on the defense, gain control of the puck, move with possession out of the zone, then dump the puck in, hammer their defensemen into the boards, then gain control and cycle, always ready to retreat if the puck is turned over. It was a very successful system when implemented properly, which the Kings did nearly to perfection from 2012-2014. However, they started making choices about players to keep once their core players started earning raises, and they chose to keep a lot of the wrong players. They let Mitchell, Williams, and Scuderi (before he sucked) walk, while re-signing players like Gaborik, who didn't fit the system, to try to add goal scoring. They could no longer ice the correct personnel to play the system, and their production started to suffer.
- tkecanuck341

I think that's right. The Kings were always in the top of the league in Corsi. They had puck support all over the ice and were rarely outplayed. It certainly wasn't river hockey but I enjoyed watching them play. They were so cohesive and in sync as a team. From one line to the next.

The Hawks need to go full rebuild. If they can’t see that, well, that’s just sad.
- BiggE

So true Towes is a 3rd line center at 10.5 a year

The Hawks need to go full rebuild. If they can’t see that, well, that’s just sad.
- BiggE

Patrick Kane...what would it cost?

Use the candy cane and hook Bernier

Only when paired with Canadian Bacon
- corduroy

It is criminal to call that stuff bacon. It's good, but it is not bacon.

Only when paired with Canadian Bacon
- corduroy

Pan fried crispy real ham and pineapple on pizza with lots of crushed red pepper, yummmm.

We’re about to go on a run. I sense it
- Just5

Yep its around the time they go on a ridiculous Dec\Jan run.

Heathens!!!!