There is a good chance the Leafs can't have Johnnson and Liljegren on the team in 3 years because of the cap.

There is no need to hoard.
- Santo_44

How do you figure? Neither one of these players will be commanding outrageous contracts.

It's precisely players like Johnnson and Liljegren who the Leafs need in 3 years because of the cap. And even if they were potentially pieces that might put the Leafs in cap hell they're worth more in a couple of years than they are right now as tradeable assets.

Subtract Zaitsev and Gardiner - leafs can afford him.
- Cooshie

Trade Zaits and his $4.5M cap hit and we can keep Gardiner.

Maybe, but ask yourself this.. For this season and next, would Pietrangelo or Liljegren give us a better shot at the Cup?
- PatC80

But it's not just Liljegren...
It's Liljegren, Johnsson and a 1st (Zaitsev not worth mentioning)....

Trade Zaits and his $4.5M cap hit and we can keep Gardiner.
- TrashPanda

He actually might be pretty attractive if the Leafs ate his signing bonus next season before dealing him.

Trade Zaits and his $4.5M cap hit and we can keep Gardiner.
- TrashPanda

I dunno how easy that's gonna be....

Trade Zaits and his $4.5M cap hit and we can keep Gardiner.
- TrashPanda

If it's just Zaitsev, might have to give up a 2nd rounder or something to dump him. I am not opposed.

if they are on ELC?
- senstroll

It's two years of being on the 50 man roster.

He actually might be pretty attractive if the Leafs ate his signing bonus next season before dealing him.
- mjones242

Not a lot of teams are going to want to pay $4.5 Million per for a guy with a partial NTC and 5 years remaining.

Especially one who has seen his production drop in back to back years while he should be about in his prime.

Not a lot of teams are going to want to pay $4.5 Million per for a guy with a partial NTC and 5 years remaining.

Especially one who has seen his production drop in back to back years while he should be about in his prime.
- BINGO!

I agree, Canes and Leafs should just swap two struggling D.
Pesce for Zaitsev

How do you figure? Neither one of these players will be commanding outrageous contracts.

It's precisely players like Johnnson and Liljegren who the Leafs need in 3 years because of the cap. And even if they were potentially pieces that might put the Leafs in cap hell they're worth more in a couple of years than they are right now as tradeable assets.
- mjones242

Johnnson is looking at his 3rd contract this offseason. In a few years the Leafs simply can not have their "depth" players making 3 million a season.

I dunno how easy that's gonna be....
- BINGO!

I can see this happening in a package deal.

I agree, Canes and Leafs should just swap two struggling D.
Pesce for Zaitsev
- Cooshie

okay well one is coming off an injury and has been consistently paired with a guy trying to play his offside for the first time since junior, and the other just blows so I dunno.

okay well one is coming off an injury and has been consistently paired with a guy trying to play his offside for the first time since junior, and the other just blows so I dunno.
- BINGO!

Done. I'll fax it in.

Done. I'll fax it in.
- TrashPanda

Best part is they only have to pick up their poop and move to the other dressing room - they can both be in tonight's lineup!

Good job, Trashie. Feel free to rummage through my green bin tonight.

I dunno how easy that's gonna be....
- BINGO!

VERY

difficult

Best part is they only have to pick up their poop and move to the other dressing room - they can both be in tonight's lineup!

Good job, Trashie. Feel free to rummage through my green bin tonight.
- Atomic Wedgie

Can you order a pizza tonight to enjoy during the game?

Can you order a pizza tonight to enjoy during the game?


- TrashPanda

There is a good chance the Leafs can't have Johnnson and Liljegren on the team in 3 years because of the cap.

There is no need to hoard.
- Santo_44

Wouldn't Johnsson and Liljegren be the exact type of players they need in 3 years because of the cap?

Not a lot of teams are going to want to pay $4.5 Million per for a guy with a partial NTC and 5 years remaining.

Especially one who has seen his production drop in back to back years while he should be about in his prime.
- BINGO!

That's why I'm suggesting the Leafs eat his 3M bonus next season before trading him. 1.5M would be pretty attractive.

The M-NTC really shouldn't be much of a problem - if it were an NMC it would be.

That's why I'm suggesting the Leafs eat his 3M bonus next season before trading him. 1.5M would be pretty attractive.

The M-NTC really shouldn't be much of a problem - if it were an NMC it would be.
- mjones242

For salary, sure, but they still have to pay him $4.5 million the next year, and the year afetr that, and after that...

and that doesn't change his cap hit.

That's why I'm suggesting the Leafs eat his 3M bonus next season before trading him. 1.5M would be pretty attractive.

The M-NTC really shouldn't be much of a problem - if it were an NMC it would be.
- mjones242

I look around the league and team's number 4 dmen are pretty much like Zaitsev. Zaitsev is fine as a number 4

Johnnson is looking at his 3rd contract this offseason. In a few years the Leafs simply can not have their "depth" players making 3 million a season.
- Santo_44

If by "depth" players you're referring to 4th line forwards, sure - I'm with you. I don't think that is what Johnsson is.

Having said that, I guess I'm trying to understand what you think the Leafs will be capable of affording. How many players can the Leafs sign for over 3M?

Just because the Leafs will be carrying AM34, MM, JT, and Nylander with hefty contracts doesn't mean there won't be room for more. It also doesn't mean the Leafs can't move any of those pieces (I'm looking at you, Bill Ny!) to make room for players like Liljegren if they prove capable.

For salary, sure, but they still have to pay him $4.5 million the next year, and the year afetr that, and after that...

and that doesn't change his cap hit.
- BINGO!

The cap hit may actually be attractive for some bottom feeders.

Not having to pay 3M as part of the total sum of the remaining contract is attractive. Not to mention the same strategy could be used in the last two remaining years to entice a trade (e.g. eat the 2M signing bonus).

Bottom-line: he's tradable and the Leafs shouldn't have to sweeten the pot ridiculously to move him.

To Toronto:
OEL + Chychrun + Hjalmarsson + Clayton Keller

To Arizona:
Buston Glasshews + Zaitzev + Hainsey


Hyman - Tavares - Marner
Marleau - Keller - Nylander
Johnsson - Kadri - Kapanen
Ennis - Lindholm - Brown

Rielly - OEL
Gardiner Hjalmarsson
Dermott Chychrun

Andersen
Sparks


Go (frank) your hat!