isnt Karlsson the best example?

buncha bit parts and a 1st
- senstroll

No.

Karlsonn is an expiring contract.

Ottawa wasn't going to trade him to the East.

Mcdonaugh is a comparable...and you have to take into account Petro is better.

It was obvious, I know I should have winked. I am not really a grumpy biatch.
- Drapz

It's too late
I hate you

Don't worry Peter old pal.

I knew you were.

It was obvious.


- Scabeh

I f'n hate you too

isnt Karlsson the best example?

buncha bit parts and a 1st
- senstroll

Well yes and no? Remember that Karlsson had them over a barrel and had no intentions of playing for the Sens and he would have just walked as a UFA.....other GMs pay attention to these things.....Dorian had zero chance on getting “full market value” on this trade right from the start

is that true?
- senstroll

No (frank).

No.

Karlsonn is an expiring contract.

Ottawa wasn't going to trade him to the East.

Mcdonaugh is a comparable...and you have to take into account Petro is better.
- Santo_44

Well they get the full season out of him. plus EK is the more valuable asset imo.

anyways you dont overpay for 1.5 years of AP ...

to Toronto: Hjalmarsson + Clayton Keller


to Arizona : Nylander + Johnsson + 1st rounder + Nathan Horton (and his caphit)

Well yes and no? Remember that Karlsson had them over a barrel and had no intentions of playing for the Sens and he would have just walked as a UFA.....other GMs pay attention to these things.....Dorian had zero chance on getting “full market value” on this trade right from the start
- RatedR80

i just think dorion is a bad GM..so i factor that into the return

he took a ham sandwich for Hoffman

Well yes and no? Remember that Karlsson had them over a barrel and had no intentions of playing for the Sens and he would have just walked as a UFA.....other GMs pay attention to these things.....Dorian had zero chance on getting “full market value” on this trade right from the start
- RatedR80

Dorian could have gotten more, if he didn't limit it to the Western Conference only. Pietrangelo still has a year left on his deal, so it should cost more than what SJ paid for Erik Karlsson.

No (frank).
- Arctic_AARDVARK

You can only protect 3 defencemen.

Reilly
Dermott (I'm assuming).

One more. You decide.

to Toronto: Hjalmarsson + Clayton Keller


to Arizona : Nylander + Johnsson + 1st rounder + Nathan Horton (and his caphit)
- plantheparade

Horton's contract isn't insured - no way in hell the Coyotes are going to pay a guy $5 million to not play.

Edit: actual salary: $4.5 milly this year, $3.6 milly next year. Still no way Arizona does it.

You can only protect 3 defencemen.

Reilly
Dermott (I'm assuming).

One more. You decide.
- Atomic Wedgie

We'll play Liljegren on Wing. --> all of a sudden he's a forward

No.

Karlsonn is an expiring contract.

Ottawa wasn't going to trade him to the East.

Mcdonaugh is a comparable...and you have to take into account Petro is better.
- Santo_44

How do you guys talk about acquiring Piets when there’s no way they could afford him?

Isn’t this all redundant?

What whrong with our D? Seriously, maybe Rosen can actually play with Rielly? What if Lily and Sandy are actually really solid? Wouldn’t it be great it we traded Nylander or Kappy for a declining Dman who makes 8mil plus?

You can only protect 3 defencemen.

Reilly
Dermott (I'm assuming).

One more. You decide.
- Atomic Wedgie

if they are on ELC?

i just think dorion is a bad GM..so i factor that into the return

he took a ham sandwich for Hoffman
- senstroll

I won’t argue the bad GM bit....the Hoffman deal was brutal for sure

Horton's contract isn't insured - no way in hell the Coyotes are going to pay a guy $5 million to not play.
- Atomic Wedgie

3.6million for a 5.3million caphit. exactly what Chayka likes.

We'll play Liljegren on Wing. --> all of a sudden he's a forward

- plantheparade

This was done a few years back, wasn't it - someone member?

3.6million for a 5.3million caphit. exactly what Chayka likes.
- plantheparade

It would be, if it was insured.. It's not, so Arizona, and not the insurance company, has to actually pay Horton the 3.6M.

Well they get the full season out of him. plus EK is the more valuable asset imo.

anyways you dont overpay for 1.5 years of AP ...
- senstroll

I haven't seen anyone throw out offers that is an overpayment.

trading away Z's contract plus secondary pieces like Kap/Johnnson plus a late 1st isn't overpaying. The Leafs lose no primary pieces and gain a star player in a position they desperately need.

We'll play Liljegren on Wing. --> all of a sudden he's a forward

- plantheparade

Ha!

I wonder if there are parameters...

You can only protect 3 defencemen.

Reilly
Dermott (I'm assuming).

One more. You decide.
- Atomic Wedgie

Keep the best 3 at the time. Who cares it’s 3 years from now. Maybe Borgman or Rosen turn out to be better than them.

How do you guys talk about acquiring Piets when there’s no way they could afford him?

Isn’t this all redundant?

What whrong with our D? Seriously, maybe Rosen can actually play with Rielly? What if Lily and Sandy are actually really solid? Wouldn’t it be great it we traded Nylander or Kappy for a declining Dman who makes 8mil plus?
- Arctic_AARDVARK

would have to agree with you on the first phrase, leafs simply can't acquire another big contract, will already have to lose gardiner (/nylander).
only way this could happen if leafs win the SC this season, and then get ok from Marleau to trade him to Arizona for nothing.

our D is not good enough in our own end, need a guy that can play defense.

Dorian could have gotten more, if he didn't limit it to the Western Conference only. Pietrangelo still has a year left on his deal, so it should cost more than what SJ paid for Erik Karlsson.
- PatC80

Pretty much my point....it’s totally different situations and I also remember it being said “Armstrong isn’t shopping Pietrangelo but that’s not going to stop teams from calling”....Armstrong doesn’t have to deal him and I imagine he will only do if the right offer comes along

We'll play Liljegren on Wing. --> all of a sudden he's a forward

- plantheparade

Smartest thing you’ve ever said lol..

I haven't seen anyone throw out offers that is an overpayment.

trading away Z's contract plus secondary pieces like Kap/Johnnson plus a late 1st isn't overpaying. The Leafs lose no primary pieces and gain a star player in a position they desperately need.
- Santo_44

i was going off the Johnsson/Z/Lily/1st

thats getting to the max imo. its a more valuable package than what SJ gave up