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TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Dec 12 @ 1:01 PM ET
I don't think he wants to go anywhere tbh. He is "home"

He played 7 minutes last night, he will collect his checks and retire at the end of the year.

- CoHo_to_B-Lo

I think he meant the Calder cup.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 12 @ 1:03 PM ET
Bogo has been better than serviceable. Nice to see him actually playing hockey games. His return to the line-up as a pretty good defenseman goes underrated in the reasons why the team has made such a turn around this year, in my opinion.
- Angler


He’s just gotta stay healthy
For whatever reason,
when Bogo was banged up & playing he just seemed to lose all confidence
He and Dahlin seem to work pretty well as a pair
McCabe/Pilut with Risto has looked good too
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Dec 12 @ 1:03 PM ET
Samson has 26pts in 31g. It's the Jeff Jack Sam Rasmi show. Credit where credit is due and all that.

One thing: Berglund for me is interchangeable with Girgs, Larry or Pommer. I think his lack of speed makes him a bottom 6 player for us. And while I doubt the 3rd or 4th lines are popping in much, they weren't as it was. I basically just want to go from 1 scoring line to 2. If you think this would net more goals, why not.

I get that 3/4 are still issues, but fixing the 2nd line, I think, takes the priority. What would you do? Curious as to lines.

- RhinoFan



Are you saying Lockport Larry and Girgs are 3/4 line guys? Maybe in the rest of the league, but on this team they make up 2/3 of our second line.



Because.... minutes.
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Dec 12 @ 1:04 PM ET
I think he meant the Calder cup.
- TheHank



Oh my!
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 12 @ 1:04 PM ET
Those need to be 5 of your 6.
- CoHo_to_B-Lo


I wouldn't be against selling high on McCabe for the right player/contract situation in conjunction with a salary dump. But yeah, any of those non-bolded names would be easier
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Dec 12 @ 1:05 PM ET
I wouldn't be against selling high on McCabe for the right player/contract situation in conjunction with a salary dump. But yeah, any of those non-bolded names would be easier
- jcragcrumple



I really like McCabe so it would suck to see him go, but for the right return i would understand.
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Dec 12 @ 1:05 PM ET
I wouldn't be against selling high on McCabe for the right player/contract situation in conjunction with a salary dump. But yeah, any of those non-bolded names would be easier
- jcragcrumple

Package him with Berglund for a 6th.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Dec 12 @ 1:06 PM ET
you left 6 or 7 off the list


- homiedclown


Doubt we can find takers for Okposo or Berglund. Pominville, Moulson contracts come off the books next year. Bogo can stay after next season if he takes a 50% pay cut. Larsson, Girgensons, Beaulieu we cross that bridge when we get to it. Sheary and Hunwick are place holders and probably gone after next year.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 12 @ 1:06 PM ET
I don’t mind the line 1 & 2 shakeup,
but will we get anything at all out of that 3rd line?
Berglund would be in the mix on that 3rd or 4th line as well

There’s still too many guys in the top9 that are passengers right now
Basically...
It’s Jack and Skinner,
and then a bunch of guys we wanna see more from

- jdfitz77

Nothing at all. Ever. Two of those guys should be shot to the sun, amirite?
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Dec 12 @ 1:07 PM ET
Are you saying Lockport Larry and Girgs are 3/4 line guys? Maybe in the rest of the league, but on this team they make up 2/3 of our second line.



Because.... minutes.

- CoHo_to_B-Lo


Remember, in 2014, Girgs was on pace to be a 20 goal scorer.

His father Sonny is proud.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 12 @ 1:08 PM ET
do you shop him before or after you lock mccabe up?
- homiedclown


McCabe is an RFA, right?
So I’m not too worried about locking him up
That deal will get done
I’m thinking something like:
3 or 4 years, 3.5-4mil

Yesterday, Paul Hamilton said McCabe will get around 5.5mil per and i almost spit out my drink
No way do i see him getting that much
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Dec 12 @ 1:08 PM ET
Nothing at all. Ever. Two of those guys should be shot to the sun, amirite?
- sbroads24

Punted.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Dec 12 @ 1:09 PM ET
I really like McCabe so it would suck to see him go, but for the right return i would understand.
- CoHo_to_B-Lo


I think McCabe is the perfect 3rd pair d-man for todays NHL. Our d-corps for the 2019-2020 season is set apart from finding the 2nd pair RHD that 30 other teams are also looking to find.

Dahlin-Risto
Pilut-?
McCabe-Bogo
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 12 @ 1:09 PM ET
Nothing at all. Ever. Two of those guys should be shot to the sun, amirite?
- sbroads24


The instigators were talking today about how they are basically the 2nd line due to ice time. I'm glad they showed up the score sheet. Much needed
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 12 @ 1:10 PM ET
The instigators were talking today about how they are basically the 2nd line due to ice time. I'm glad they showed up the score sheet. Much needed
- jcragcrumple

I was talking Thompson and Sobotka.

Because we can’t wxpect two guys both on pace for around 10 goals to provide anything, at all
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Dec 12 @ 1:10 PM ET
Doubt we can find takers for Okposo or Berglund. Pominville, Moulson contracts come off the books next year. Bogo can stay after next season if he takes a 50% pay cut. Larsson, Girgensons, Beaulieu we cross that bridge when we get to it. Sheary and Hunwick are place holders and probably gone after next year.
- Pegullaville


I still strongly believe Bergy could be moved. 3.85M only, can bury 1M of that in the minors...that isn't some crazy deal that would be insanely costly. 2nd and a prospect, get something small back, could work for the desert dogs.

Okposo would be pricey and may even be impossible at this point, as you say.

But if Pronger, Horton and Clarkson can change hands, Patrick Berglund is nothingggggg. At least he can still play an NHL role.
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Dec 12 @ 1:12 PM ET
Remember, in 2014, Girgs was on pace to be a 20 goal scorer.

His father Sonny is proud.

- RhinoFan



He is an All-Star you know...
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 12 @ 1:12 PM ET
I really like McCabe so it would suck to see him go, but for the right return i would understand.
- CoHo_to_B-Lo


I am very intrigued to see what happens here. Botterill has played the IR game well to shuffle things so far, but it's looking like a group of healthy players should return at once. I am fairly certain a move will be made, unless they just start waiving guys
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 12 @ 1:13 PM ET
pommer, 1 point in last 9 games


maybe it's time to move on from him

pretty sure we can get that production loving lockport larry to the wing, so eat some salary and give him a shot at the cup

- homiedclown


Put Pommer back with Jack,
give Sam another shot at Center?

Maybe his distribution skills can help out guys like Thompson, Okposo, Sheary, etc get scoring a bit more

Imo, Sam hasn’t really had a shot at Center in years
Last season with Pouliot & Seth Griffith on his wings for 7ish games wasn’t setting him up for a reasonable chance at success
At least now, we have some guys with offensive talent we can play him with
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Dec 12 @ 1:14 PM ET
I am very intrigued to see what happens here. Botterill has played the IR game well to shuffle things so far, but it's looking like a group of healthy players should return at once. I am fairly certain a move will be made, unless they just start waiving guys
- jcragcrumple



Who do you waive? It is a tough situation.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 12 @ 1:15 PM ET
Boo. He absolutely should stay.
- TheHank


We actually agree Hank!
Hahaha

It’s a numbers game right now though to keep Pilut up
Unless they decide to just waive/send down Scandella &/or Hunwick
Shadman306
Joined: 06.11.2015

Dec 12 @ 1:16 PM ET
Put Pommer back with Jack,
give Sam another shot at Center?

Maybe his distribution skills can help out guys like Thompson, Okposo, Sheary, etc get scoring a bit more

Imo, Sam hasn’t really had a shot at Center in years
Last season with Pouliot & Seth Griffith on his wings for 7ish games wasn’t setting him up for a reasonable chance at success
At least now, we have some guys with offensive talent we can play him with

- jdfitz77


I would like to see:

Sheary Eichel mitts
Skinner Reinhart Pommer/Okpo/Thompson
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 12 @ 1:17 PM ET
Who do you waive? It is a tough situation.
- CoHo_to_B-Lo


Elie and Nelson.

But if I'm the Sabres, I'm looking to package a d man, a pick and a prospect for a Namestnikov/Anisimov/other instead

Use the log jam as an opportunity instead of a problem
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Dec 12 @ 1:20 PM ET
Elie and Nelson.

But if I'm the Sabres, I'm looking to package a d man, a pick and a prospect for a Namestnikov/Anisimov/other instead

Use the log jam as an opportunity instead of a problem

- jcragcrumple



If you can get rid of Scandella do it. IMO
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 12 @ 1:23 PM ET
Samson has 26pts in 31g. It's the Jeff Jack Sam Rasmi show. Credit where credit is due and all that.

One thing: Berglund for me is interchangeable with Girgs, Larry or Pommer. I think his lack of speed makes him a bottom 6 player for us. And while I doubt the 3rd or 4th lines are popping in much, they weren't as it was. I basically just want to go from 1 scoring line to 2. If you think this would net more goals, why not.

I get that 3/4 are still issues, but fixing the 2nd line, I think, takes the priority. What would you do? Curious as to lines.

- RhinoFan


I pretty much agree with all this
Better to at least have 2 lines scoring than just the 1

I think we are at the point where we either have to break up Jack & Skinner,
or give Sam another shot at Center

Skinner-Jack-
Sheary-Sam-
Berglund-Mitts-

For the RWs, shuffle around Pommer, Okposo & Thompson until we (hopefully) find the right fits

Then I’d look at shuffling the LWs if that didn’t work

Then I’d look at bringing up a kid or 2,
but then we’d have to convince ARZ, EDM, or whoever, to take on guys like Berglund & Sobatka
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