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Abadseed
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Arlington hts, IL
Joined: 01.20.2014

Dec 11 @ 4:58 PM ET
wow...so the big baby bulls want to be heard...well their horse poop performance over the last few games speaks rather loudly of their selfish unprofessional attitude..

https://www.nbcsports.com...-we-do-and-how-we-operate


Gar/Pax have real mess on their hands. Fire them all.

- bogiedoc



And the hawks are glad to fly under the Chicago sports radar
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Dec 11 @ 5:19 PM ET
It sounds like possibly Keith and anisomov for kessel. Kessel cap hit is 8 million for 4 more years and it sounds like they want a defenseman.

I'd make that trade kessel is 31 and has good numbers.

- Taylorst1

StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Dec 11 @ 5:20 PM ET
wow...so the big baby bulls want to be heard...well their horse poop performance over the last few games speaks rather loudly of their selfish unprofessional attitude..

https://www.nbcsports.com...-we-do-and-how-we-operate


Gar/Pax have real mess on their hands. Fire them all.

- bogiedoc


There are only 15 rostered players: they need a leadership committee?
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Dec 11 @ 5:20 PM ET
Teuvo is a winger. Gets spot duty on faceoffs but primarily plays RW and plays the point on the PP.
- BINGO!

Hey, Thanks tips
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Dec 11 @ 5:20 PM ET

- Elbows15

Looks like Mike Pence - not saying anything, as usual.

But - he's not on his knees....
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Dec 11 @ 5:21 PM ET
Keith and Seabrook are both albatross on this team , so if they can move 1 of them that's a huge relief. Their aren't to many teams beating down the door to take Keith or Seabrook and to do so would entail both waiving their no movement clauses , 2nd hawks either eat salary and give up prospects or picks,


So id take a 31 year old kessel who is consistentnin scoring has 30 or 33 points this season. Anisomov isn't worth keeping. So if it means Keith and anisomov for kessel that's a deal Stan should take.


Yes he can always flip kessel so .

- Taylorst1


ok good points just giving my opinion that's all
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Dec 11 @ 5:21 PM ET
There are only 15 rostered players: they need a leadership committee?
- StLBravesFan

They need to be launched. Every one of them. Course it won't make a lick of difference with the two-headed dolt in the front office.
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Dec 11 @ 5:25 PM ET
No to that trade kessel is 31 so another aging player with hugh contract. Maybe do that trade then flip kessel to another team and get younger assets back plus picks. Bowman to stupid and would lose the trade. Besides vermette trade what recent trade over the last 4 years have bowman won or where it was a good trade for both team and made sense. Also i would take malkin over kessel imo.
- Scott1977


How do you feel about Schmaltz for Strome and Perlini?
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Dec 11 @ 5:29 PM ET
No to that trade kessel is 31 so another aging player with hugh contract. Maybe do that trade then flip kessel to another team and get younger assets back plus picks. Bowman to stupid and would lose the trade. Besides vermette trade what recent trade over the last 4 years have bowman won or where it was a good trade for both team and made sense. Also i would take malkin over kessel imo.
- Scott1977


I really don’t see how this type of trade makes any sense for the Blackhawks!
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Dec 11 @ 5:29 PM ET
How do you feel about Schmaltz for Strome and Perlini?
- I Am The Breadman

Great trade. Really put some finishing touches on the tank. A few more decals and the Hawks should have the best odds for #1
KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Joined: 01.29.2010

Dec 11 @ 5:34 PM ET
I wouldn't think Chychrun would be available, but that is the type of return that would make me ok with moving crawford. Like it or not, he's aging and we are likely 2 years away (even with Hughes I think we'd have a better shot in 20-21 than in 19-20). by 20-21, how much would Crow have left? Getting a high end talent like Chychrun would be great to pair with Joki.
- gnosox1986

You just described exactly why Arizona wouldn’t take Crawford. He’s getting older. He’s had concussion issues. He’s not the goalie he once was. Why would ARI make this trade?
Not getting a high end talent for Crawford. Just not happening. Neither will Quick. Would be nice to dream about but it’s not happening. I’m hoping for a pick and prospect for quick but not high end
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Dec 11 @ 5:34 PM ET
Great trade. Really put some finishing touches on the tank. A few more decals and the Hawks should have the best odds for #1
- Elbows15


Chant: We're number one, in Tankathon!
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Dec 11 @ 5:42 PM ET
I really don’t see how this type of trade makes any sense for the Blackhawks!
- walleyeb1


I don't know why they want Arty, who just suffered a concussion. Wanting Keith, I can get.
scottak
Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley!
Joined: 08.06.2010

Dec 11 @ 5:48 PM ET
It sounds like possibly Keith and anisomov for kessel. Kessel cap hit is 8 million for 4 more years and it sounds like they want a defenseman.

I'd make that trade kessel is 31 and has good numbers.

- Taylorst1

Trading either AA or Keith and not getting young players and/or picks back makes no sense.
KINGS67
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Los Angeles Kings
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Joined: 01.29.2010

Dec 11 @ 5:51 PM ET
I think a fair package would be Zaitsev, Brown, a 2nd rounder and a prospect in our top 10.

If hypothetically Keith is available.

- aries1976

Seriously. No one wants brown. You guys insist every team would want that guy.

Stop low balling your offers with zaitsev brown and a 2nd for every player
KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Joined: 01.29.2010

Dec 11 @ 5:57 PM ET
Kinda shows how good Freddie has been for the leafs. I think before the Bruins Game, they were top 5 in GAA.... Rielly's emergence has been noticed by all by now.

If the leafs and parting with a 1st, Sandin, or Liljegren, I rather have Petro from the Blues.

Any other scenario, I would look at Duncan.

Leafs have cap issues next year, but that's not this year.

- aries1976

At least you admit they have cap issues. 👍🏻
KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Joined: 01.29.2010

Dec 11 @ 5:57 PM ET
Which of the 3 are most NHL Ready?
- riozzo

Kakko
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Dec 11 @ 6:02 PM ET
Some snips from The Athletic's Hawks prospect report back in July (if you haven't subscribed to the Athletic, I highly recommend it):

1. Dylan Sikura, winger: Sikura, 23, can be a difference-maker for the Blackhawks next season. No one else on this list probably has that capability for the 2018-19 season. He’ll likely start the season slotted into a top-6 role.

(This hasn't happened yet, and it's probably better that he learns the pro game in Rockford than trying to play the hero every night on this crappy team)

- ObeseOprah

Totally agree that while I would be excited to see what Sikura can bring to the Hawks this season, I would rather not throw him to the wolves and have him play in the current poop show. Not sure if that's best for his development.

4. Ian Mitchell, defenseman: Mitchell, 19, has a chance to be one of college hockey’s top defensemen this season. Expect him to turn pro after the season at Denver and soon battle for an NHL roster spot. He’ll be in the mix for a spot on Canada’s World Championship team too.

(Maybe we'll see him for a couple games at the end)

Yes, Mitchell will most likely sign an ELC after Denver's season then perhaps play a few games with the Hawks in March/April like former college teammate Hillman did last year.

I'd expect Mitchell to spend at least a year in Rockford then push for a job by 2020-21 and either make it that season or the one after.
6. Nicolas Beaudin, defenseman: Beaudin, 18, is just a solid all-around defenseman. He probably turns pro after his season in the QMJHL.

(In theory he should end up better than Jokiharju, as he's a higher pick. We'll see.)

Agree that Beaudin will also likely sign an ELC at season's end then spend at least a year in Rockford unless he impresses in camp. Don't think he makes the team out of camp but could push for a mid-year call-up.

Also agree that Beaudin may end up being just as solid as Jokiharju, if not better, at playing a dependable two-way game from the blueline. Neither are huge and definitely not bruisers but they use their hockey IQ, positioning, and reads to close gaps and body opponents off the puck.
7. Artur Kayumov, winger: Kayumov, 20
9. Victor Ejdsell, winger/center: Ejdsell, 23
10. Max Shalunov, winger: Shalunov, 25

I don't have high hopes for any of the Russian prospects (including Altybarmakyan and Nalimov) making it in the NHL. Maybe one of them but don't see any being impact players.

Same with Edjsell. While he has an A+ shot, his skating is just subpar and can be a ghost for long stretches. Even if he scores in a game, he's invisible for most of it until that one bright spot.
8. Jake Wise, center: Wise, 18, may end up being a steal for the Blackhawks in the third round. He’s going to be put into a key role at Boston University as a freshman. He certainly impressed at development camp.

(He has 2 assists in about a dozen games, doesn't look good so far)

He could have a similar path as Saad. Plummeting draft stock from sure fire 1st rounder to later round while still being a promising prospect once all the dust settles. I project him to be a middle 6 forward. Possible 2nd liner.
Taylorst1
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2018

Dec 11 @ 6:10 PM ET
How do you feel about Schmaltz for Strome and Perlini?
- I Am The Breadman




I like strome game he has done nicely and I think he will be a good player with time , Perlini hard to say, he has the potential but hasn't stepped up yet.


Schmaltz regressed and his play wasn't helping this team nor was his asking price salary wise next year.

So this deal the verdict is still out but so far can't complain with strome
Z3Hawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.04.2017

Dec 11 @ 6:12 PM ET
He is 31 now and he has good numbers. Remember we brought hossa in at 31, so as long as he can play. Moving Keith would be great he is 35 and it makes room for another young promising defenseman next year.
- Taylorst1


Why would the Hawks want a player whose training regimen his whole career has been Burger Curls and who makes a lot of money and is now older? Makes no sense. Hawks should NOT move Keith. If you think the D is lost now just wait.

Hopefully the Hawks move Gus of Wind and Kampf so JC can’t play them anymore.
Taylorst1
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2018

Dec 11 @ 6:14 PM ET
Trading either AA or Keith and not getting young players and/or picks back makes no sense.
- scottak

Keith and Seabrook are both albatross on this team , so if they can move 1 of them that's a huge relief. Their aren't to many teams beating down the door to take Keith or Seabrook and to do so would entail both waiving their no movement clauses , 2nd hawks either eat salary and give up prospects or picks,


So id take a 31 year old kessel who is consistentnin scoring has 30 or 33 points this season. Anisomov isn't worth keeping. So if it means Keith and anisomov for kessel that's a deal Stan should take.


Yes he can always flip kessel so .
- Taylorst1
Z3Hawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.04.2017

Dec 11 @ 6:19 PM ET
I like strome game he has done nicely and I think he will be a good player with time , Perlini hard to say, he has the potential but hasn't stepped up yet.


Schmaltz regressed and his play wasn't helping this team nor was his asking price salary wise next year.

So this deal the verdict is still out but so far can't complain with strome

- Taylorst1


The craziest rumour that came out was that Schmaltz wanted to be paid a lot as if he was wildly prolific - and if he fell short of that statistically it was the team’s fault for stalling his development. That this sort of crazy was even being discussed shows how off the rails it was. It does seem he wanted to be paid more than his performance dictated.
Taylorst1
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2018

Dec 11 @ 6:28 PM ET
Why would the Hawks want a player whose training regimen his whole career has been Burger Curls and who makes a lot of money and is now older? Makes no sense. Hawks should NOT move Keith. If you think the D is lost now just wait.

Hopefully the Hawks move Gus of Wind and Kampf so JC can’t play them anymore.

- Z3Hawk



This team sucks with Keith and Seabrook not sure why youmwould want to keep either of them for 4 and 5 more years with no opportunity to bring up the young promising defenseman and get out from this cap hell that they create. If Stan can move out Keith and Seabrook and it doesn't cost us prospects, picks or eating some salary , then yeah kessel at 31 years old whom is consistent in scoring has 30 or 33 points now, id trade for him.


Kessel can always be moved he is valuable.


Nobody is taking Keith or Seabrook and to even ask them to waive their trade clause they do hold all the cards as to if or where they will play.
Davewn
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: West Des Moines, IA
Joined: 12.16.2015

Dec 11 @ 6:41 PM ET
Keith and Seabrook are both albatross on this team , so if they can move 1 of them that's a huge relief. Their aren't to many teams beating down the door to take Keith or Seabrook and to do so would entail both waiving their no movement clauses , 2nd hawks either eat salary and give up prospects or picks,


So id take a 31 year old kessel who is consistentnin scoring has 30 or 33 points this season. Anisomov isn't worth keeping. So if it means Keith and anisomov for kessel that's a deal Stan should take.


Yes he can always flip kessel so .
- Taylorst1

- Taylorst1



Kessel has a NMC, so there's no flipping him. IMO, the last thing this team needs is another player in his 30's making a ton of money. Makes no sense to fill a hole at wing and open two other ones on D and C without anyone to fill them internally.
6628
Joined: 08.24.2009

Dec 11 @ 6:45 PM ET
This team sucks with Keith and Seabrook not sure why youmwould want to keep either of them for 4 and 5 more years with no opportunity to bring up the young promising defenseman and get out from this cap hell that they create. If Stan can move out Keith and Seabrook and it doesn't cost us prospects, picks or eating some salary , then yeah kessel at 31 years old whom is consistent in scoring has 30 or 33 points now, id trade for him.


Kessel can always be moved he is valuable.


Nobody is taking Keith or Seabrook and to even ask them to waive their trade clause they do hold all the cards as to if or where they will play.

- Taylorst1



We have the Vienna factory with it's outlet store at Damen & Elston. Kessel would live there. He'll go off a cliff like Seabrook if he comes here. No thanks.
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