When most people refer to grit or toughness, they are not referring to fighters/fighting or taking alot of penalties.
Simply players with more edge, but of course skill.
Personally, i think the leafs did show a little more grit Saturday. They didnt just get pushed over.
- Fakepartofme

Mitch (frank)ing Marner threw a hit

I haven’t seen one person say this....

Just because a player is put into a deal it does not make him the centrepiece.
- Santo_44

I think what he is saying that the blues taking Zaitsev is a wash we get cap space they get a RHD. Some peoples dream of sending Zaitsev and a bottom 6 fwd of our choice is not happening this year. Needs to be 2 of a 1st, a speedy winger, or a decent prospect.

When most people refer to grit or toughness, they are not referring to fighters/fighting or taking alot of penalties.
Simply players with more edge, but of course skill.
Personally, i think the leafs did show a little more grit Saturday. They didnt just get pushed over.
- Fakepartofme

I think at the end of the day you have to play your style of game. Teams lower in the standings might want to hit the Leafs because they know it’s not easy to out skill the Leafs.

Getting a tougher player at the deadline isn’t going to do much...the leafs will still play their style of game and the other teams will try to find ways to exploit it.

I’ll still take a Simmonds, Gudas, Kreider type player. A big hit every now and then is great...especially when it comes from a good player. But if the price is too high the Leafs won’t do it. They’ll want to upgrade their D first.

Do the St. Louis Blues not have scouts? What were they thinking giving a 32 year old defensively poor Tyler Bozak 3 years at $5 M ? They deserve to suck.
Philly must also be feeling a little nervous with the JVR signing right now. Injured and not really producing so far, but he is a proven scorer, just invisible defensively and on the rest of the ice.

I think what he is saying that the blues taking Zaitsev is a wash we get cap space they get a RHD. Some peoples dream of sending Zaitsev and a bottom 6 fwd of our choice is not happening this year. Needs to be 2 of a 1st, a speedy winger, or a decent prospect.
- Drapz

Yeah I just don’t see anyone saying they will send Z and a bottom 6 forward....no one is disagreeing that adding Z to the deal isn’t a plus.

Adding Z makes a deal possible...any good team that will want to trade for Pietrangelo will need to work out a way to send salary back. AP will(if he is even available by TDL) will go to a top team in the league. And top teams generally won’t have the cap space to take on 6.5 million for two years. A top team will pay the price. A middling team fighting for a playoff spot probably won’t
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When most people refer to grit or toughness, they are not referring to fighters/fighting or taking alot of penalties.
Simply players with more edge, but of course skill.
Personally, i think the leafs did show a little more grit Saturday. They didnt just get pushed over.
- Fakepartofme

Well the players people keep mentioning, gernally do take penalties.

So who is the tough gritty player that doesnt take penalties that the Leafs need to get?

Do the St. Louis Blues not have scouts? What were they thinking giving a 32 year old defensively poor Tyler Bozak 3 years at $5 M ? They deserve to suck.
Philly must also be feeling a little nervous with the JVR signing right now. Injured and not really producing so far, but he is a proven scorer, just invisible defensively and on the rest of the ice.
- Rang

Do you have a Komorov update?

Do the St. Louis Blues not have scouts? What were they thinking giving a 32 year old defensively poor Tyler Bozak 3 years at $5 M ? They deserve to suck.
Philly must also be feeling a little nervous with the JVR signing right now. Injured and not really producing so far, but he is a proven scorer, just invisible defensively and on the rest of the ice.
- Rang

Tee hee

Well the players people keep mentioning, gernally do take penalties.

So who is the tough gritty player that doesnt take penalties that the Leafs need to get?
- senstroll

I’d take Gudas.

Not because he’s tough but because he improves the D. The fact he hits and is a tougher player is just an added bonus.

Do you have a Komorov update?
- Drapz

That costs extra

I’d take Gudas.

Not because he’s tough but because he improves the D. The fact he hits and is a tougher player is just an added bonus.
- Santo_44

havent check mutch lately but Gudas was pretty effective, so sure he is fine because he can play also.. but he did have a 10 game suspension last year.

isnt he known as a pretty dirty pos?

Mitch (frank)ing Marner threw a hit
- markmark

Do you remember the hit he threw at the world jrs?
He absolutely crushed a guy.

Do the St. Louis Blues not have scouts? What were they thinking giving a 32 year old defensively poor Tyler Bozak 3 years at $5 M ? They deserve to suck.
Philly must also be feeling a little nervous with the JVR signing right now. Injured and not really producing so far, but he is a proven scorer, just invisible defensively and on the rest of the ice.
- Rang

I wish Bozie all the best.
Glad he signed that deal with the Blues and not the leafs.

Well the players people keep mentioning, gernally do take penalties.

So who is the tough gritty player that doesnt take penalties that the Leafs need to get?
- senstroll

...that doesn’t take penalties......lol. Really hilarious

Do the St. Louis Blues not have scouts? What were they thinking giving a 32 year old defensively poor Tyler Bozak 3 years at $5 M ? They deserve to suck.
Philly must also be feeling a little nervous with the JVR signing right now. Injured and not really producing so far, but he is a proven scorer, just invisible defensively and on the rest of the ice.
- Rang

That's bonafide #1C Tyler Bozak to you, sir!

-UG

havent check mutch lately but Gudas was pretty effective, so sure he is fine because he can play also.. but he did have a 10 game suspension last year.

isnt he known as a pretty dirty pos?
- senstroll

Yeah, I read an article where Gudas talked about having to tone it down physically a bit this year due to the game changing.

He’s been doing pretty well with it, and I went to the Leafs 6-0 game against Philly. Gudas was the only D that could keep up with the leafs forwards. And hit Johnnson pretty hard in the first min of the game.

But....he did score a hat trick in 10 mins after that hit....hmm....maybe we should re think this toughness thing?

I’d take Gudas.

Not because he’s tough but because he improves the D. The fact he hits and is a tougher player is just an added bonus.
- Santo_44

please rewatch Philly's first round playoff series of last year - you might want to revisit that statement. Gudas was the primary reason Flyers lost that series.

havent check mutch lately but Gudas was pretty effective, so sure he is fine because he can play also.. but he did have a 10 game suspension last year.

isnt he known as a pretty dirty pos?
- senstroll

Yes and yes. He's been suspended + been involved in a lot of questionable poop. He's got a mean streak that crosses the line pretty often. He's a decent defender but I imagine if people took issue with Polak's stellar 1-boarding-penalty-per game stats, they'll REALLY dislike what Gudas gets up to.

Do you have a Komorov update?
- Drapz

He surprisingly has the same amount of pts as bozie I believe.

He surprisingly has the same amount of pts as bozie I believe.
- Fakepartofme

I read this earlier:

Fun Fact: So far this season, JT has more points than Bozak, JVR, Polak, and Komarov combined, including more than twice as many goals.

(Yes, I know JVR only has played like 10 games)

please rewatch Philly's first round playoff series of last year - you might want to revisit that statement. Gudas was the primary reason Flyers lost that series.
- plantheparade

I usually disagree with you. Almost always.

So nah, I’m not gunna waste my time watching it.

I'll let Dubas know
- plantheparade

i think he already knows as he lurks in this thread

Yes and yes. He's been suspended + been involved in a lot of questionable poop. He's got a mean streak that crosses the line pretty often. He's a decent defender but I imagine if people took issue with Polak's stellar 1-boarding-penalty-per game stats, they'll REALLY dislike what Gudas gets up to.
- markmark

His penalty differential has been great this season.

I read this earlier:




(Yes, I know JVR only has played like 10 games)
- markmark

JT is amazeballs!

please rewatch Philly's first round playoff series of last year - you might want to revisit that statement. Gudas was the primary reason Flyers lost that series.
- plantheparade

holy poop i agree with you

i don't want gudas anywhere near the leafs