"Best ever American player?"
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- creighton30

AND best maple leaf ever. 🤣

Offer sheeting Matthews OR Marner would be pointless given the stratosphere of money the Leafs will already pay them. Leafs match, then you've made yourself an offer sheet target of the richest team in the NHL. You'd literally become a second farm team for the Leafs to draw from as they poach every RFA you have.

They have 6 forwards signed for $34M, 4 Dmen signed for $11M, and one goalie signed for $5M. they also have $1.2M remaining from Kessel. That’s $51M of $83M cap, leaving $32M remaining. No doubt the first $20 or so goes to Matthews and Marner. Maybe $3M to Kapanen. Leaving $9M for 4 bottom line forwards, 3 Dman and a backup goalie.

They COULD fill in with ELCs from the Marlies and manage that. Without moving anyone.

I think you're including Nathan Horton, who is typically included in cap totals but does not count against the cap. At absolute worst, they really only need to find a couple of million. At best, they don’t have to find anything, if they’re happy with some of the Marlies like Liljegren/Sandin/Rosen/Grundstrom/Bracco/Engvall are ready. And reportedly, several of these guys are ready for depth duties in the NHL NOW……
- prock

He absolutely counts against the cap. I don't know where people get this. Even on LTIR he still counts against the cap.

"When a player is placed on LTIR, their cap hit remains on the teams cap payroll and it continues to count as it always did. It also does not provide the club with additional cap-space savings that can be banked for future use while the team operates above the salary cap. Instead, LTIR provides relief if the club's averaged club salary, or payroll, begins to exceed the upper limit. The amount of relief that the club receives is calculated on the day the player is placed on LTIR."

https://www.capfriendly.com/ltir-faq

It’s nice when the Coyotes team blogger writes a dumb piece about how second rate the franchise is and how AMAZING the leafs are even though the leafs have done absolutely nothing to merit said praise.

He absolutely counts against the cap. I don't know where people get this. Even on LTIR he still counts against the cap.

"When a player is placed on LTIR, their cap hit remains on the teams cap payroll and it continues to count as it always did. It also does not provide the club with additional cap-space savings that can be banked for future use while the team operates above the salary cap. Instead, LTIR provides relief if the club's averaged club salary, or payroll, begins to exceed the upper limit. The amount of relief that the club receives is calculated on the day the player is placed on LTIR."

https://www.capfriendly.com/ltir-faq
- Wetbandit1

Same difference - the team's cap is effectively raised by the amount of the player's cap hit.

Semantics.

The only reason it's written that way, is so that teams aren't penalized for not reaching the cap floor if they lose players to LTIR.

Same difference - the team's cap is effectively raised by the amount of the player's cap hit.

Semantics.

The only reason it's written that way, is so that teams aren't penalized for not reaching the cap floor if they lose players to LTIR.
- prock

That's not entirely true either. You have to subtract the available cap space prior to the assignment to LTIR, and you can only use the relief on one player. A $5M hit with $1M in space nets you $4M to use over the cap; it's infinitely more complicated than that, but that's the gist of it.

A team can only go over the cap by 10% in the offseason and there is no LTIR in the offseason, so having Horton's $5.3M eating up more than half of that makes it more complicated to sign someone with the intent of putting Horton on LTIR and replacing his money with someone else's.

Not impossible by any means, but neither is it just snapping your fingers and making the hit disappear.

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- James_Tanner

With recent talk that he might get an offersheet going around, I figure now is as good a time as any to put that to bed.
By recent talk you mean the stuff your boss EK made up?

That's not entirely true either. You have to subtract the available cap space prior to the assignment to LTIR, and you can only use the relief on one player. A $5M hit with $1M in space nets you $4M to use over the cap; it's infinitely more complicated than that, but that's the gist of it.

A team can only go over the cap by 10% in the offseason and there is no LTIR in the offseason, so having Horton's $5.3M eating up more than half of that makes it more complicated to sign someone with the intent of putting Horton on LTIR and replacing his money with someone else's.

Not impossible by any means, but neither is it just snapping your fingers and making the hit disappear.
- Wetbandit1

Yes, the cap hit used by the player on LTIR only goes up when the team hits the cap ceiling.

End result is still that a team with a player on LTIR with a $5M cap hit can go over by $5M. If they only go over by $4, then their cap limit only goes up by $4M. So what, still semantics.

End result, Horton does not occupy $5M in space. They can use his cap hit on other players. His cap hit gets removed as it's used on other players.

All of this still has the same end result. That the Leafs can spend Horton's $5M cap hit on other players.

It’s nice when the Coyotes team blogger writes a dumb piece about how second rate the franchise is and how AMAZING the leafs are even though the leafs have done absolutely nothing to merit said praise.
- dcoms77

Well they do currently have the second best record and are clearly in a far different situation than Arizona.

It’s nice when the Coyotes team blogger writes a dumb piece about how second rate the franchise is and how AMAZING the leafs are even though the leafs have done absolutely nothing to merit said praise.
- dcoms77

Nothing? They're pretty clearly a team on the upswing. Just a few years removed from a last place finish, now the second best record in the league, a true contender, among the very best records of the past 2 years (it's not like this is a one off). They're clearly a fixture at the top of the league for the foreseeable future.

I don't know, I think that deserves a little praise......