The guy is gonna get 13M and put up 40 goals, 30 assists. Not even 1ppg going forward..... Marner is their best forward. He makes 4 players lethal every time he in on the ice.
- bikeguy99

Leads the league in pts and goals per game. Is on pace for 82g 133pts over a full season playing on a line with kapanen and Marleau but yeah he's not the best player on the team.

Also, Gretzky will never leave the Oilers. Not gonna happen. Zero Chance. Never. Sorry.

Aside from what the Yotes would have to pay Matthews, there's also the four first round picks they'd have to give up.
- 333inthe3rd

Yep, which would be the only way for the Yotes to have any affordable high end talent after signing Matthews to a huge deal. So he'd basically be playing with whoever is on the team right now for the next 7 years as they get older and their abilities decline, as well as a whole mess of cheap UFAs and band aid fixes. Doesn't really sound like the makings of a quality team which is why both sides wouldn't do it.

Gosh ! It must be so EASY to win multiple championships !

Also, Gretzky will never leave the Oilers. Not gonna happen. Zero Chance. Never. Sorry.
- Antilles

This is completely different. No one is saying Matthews won't leave the Leafs one day, but it won't be via offersheet as a RFA. That has not occurred in 12 years.

Gretzky was "Sold" and then traded and signed as a UFA late in his career.

Gosh ! It must be so EASY to win multiple championships !
- Pairo11

He thinks he’s funny.

if they got Matthews Toccet would still play him on the wrong F&*king line...and then they would trade him elsewhere like they do with all their star prospects

Please move to Quebec city and get it over with

This Bettman experiment is a failure

Just gonna leave this here:

… A good chunk of media seems myopicly obsessed with John Chayka, the young GM of the Arizona Coyotes. Who knows? Maybe one of these years Chayka will actually manage a team that makes the playoffs. In the meantime, there’s a whole lot of hockey people I trust and believe who call the Coyotes front office hockey’s most dysfunctional. Somebody’s right here and somebody’s wrong. The question is: Who? …

https://torontosun.com/sp...witter#Echobox=1544321867

But for that to happen, he'd have to turn his back on the franchise he probably just led to several championships, and a place where he is worshiped like a God, and where he will at this point be considered the best player to ever wear their uniform.
- James Tanner

Multiple titles? Cmon really, just like that, look around that is not easy, yes they have quite a group now, and maybe they do sign both the M&M boys, but once that is done tell me who plays D starting next season, they have 3 d men signed and with them 9 forwards, if they get 12 and 10 that leaves you with the bump to 83 mil 5 million dollars for Kapenen Johnsson, 2 more forwards, 4 d and oh a backup to Andersson. So tell me again, imo better win it this year, cause your d corp with all those forwards signed for so much ain't gonna be that great. So several, nah and I think Tampa might just have something to say about this year.

"Best ever American player?"
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Just gonna leave this here:

… A good chunk of media seems myopicly obsessed with John Chayka, the young GM of the Arizona Coyotes. Who knows? Maybe one of these years Chayka will actually manage a team that makes the playoffs. In the meantime, there’s a whole lot of hockey people I trust and believe who call the Coyotes front office hockey’s most dysfunctional. Somebody’s right here and somebody’s wrong. The question is: Who? …

https://torontosun.com/sp...witter#Echobox=1544321867
- Atomic Wedgie

I am going to go out on a limb here and say that the people Simmons trusts are old school hockey guys who will never accept a 28 year old GM unless he wins. Chayka took over the worst team in the NHL, lost a lottery or two and has had to deal with an impossible injury situation. He's made some excellent trades, and has creatively used his limited budget.

But for that to happen, he'd have to turn his back on the franchise he probably just led to several championships, and a place where he is worshiped like a God, and where he will at this point be considered the best player to ever wear their uniform.
- James Tanner

Multiple titles? Cmon really, just like that, look around that is not easy, yes they have quite a group now, and maybe they do sign both the M&M boys, but once that is done tell me who plays D starting next season, they have 3 d men signed and with them 9 forwards, if they get 12 and 10 that leaves you with the bump to 83 mil 5 million dollars for Kapenen Johnsson, 2 more forwards, 4 d and oh a backup to Andersson. So tell me again, imo better win it this year, cause your d corp with all those forwards signed for so much ain't gonna be that great. So several, nah and I think Tampa might just have something to say about this year.
- Sec111

They have 6 forwards signed for $34M, 4 Dmen signed for $11M, and one goalie signed for $5M. they also have $1.2M remaining from Kessel. That’s $51M of $83M cap, leaving $32M remaining. No doubt the first $20 or so goes to Matthews and Marner. Maybe $3M to Kapanen. Leaving $9M for 4 bottom line forwards, 3 Dman and a backup goalie.

They COULD fill in with ELCs from the Marlies and manage that. Without moving anyone.

I think you're including Nathan Horton, who is typically included in cap totals but does not count against the cap. At absolute worst, they really only need to find a couple of million. At best, they don’t have to find anything, if they’re happy with some of the Marlies like Liljegren/Sandin/Rosen/Grundstrom/Bracco/Engvall are ready. And reportedly, several of these guys are ready for depth duties in the NHL NOW……

But for that to happen, he'd have to turn his back on the franchise he probably just led to several championships, and a place where he is worshiped like a God, and where he will at this point be considered the best player to ever wear their uniform.
- James Tanner

Multiple titles? Cmon really, just like that, look around that is not easy, yes they have quite a group now, and maybe they do sign both the M&M boys, but once that is done tell me who plays D starting next season, they have 3 d men signed and with them 9 forwards, if they get 12 and 10 that leaves you with the bump to 83 mil 5 million dollars for Kapenen Johnsson, 2 more forwards, 4 d and oh a backup to Andersson. So tell me again, imo better win it this year, cause your d corp with all those forwards signed for so much ain't gonna be that great. So several, nah and I think Tampa might just have something to say about this year.
- Sec111

If the Leafs have Nylander, Matthews, Tavares, Marner, Kadri, Rielly, Andersen, Dermott, Liljegren and Sandin, they can pretty much fill out their roster with small contracts and ELCs. It's not going to be a problem.

Other than Marleau, the leafs have no bad contracts (and he only has 1 more year). Whenever this topic comes up, everyone thinks the Leafs will have trouble but forgets that basically ever NHL team has three or four terrible contracts.

I am going to go out on a limb here and say that the people Simmons trusts are old school hockey guys who will never accept a 28 year old GM unless he wins. Chayka took over the worst team in the NHL, lost a lottery or two and has had to deal with an impossible injury situation. He's made some excellent trades, and has creatively used his limited budget.
- James_Tanner

They have a decent young team, they’ve built through drafting high. They didn’t have much choice, mind you, as they were near starting from scratch.

But an ascent to the top of the league doesn’t only seem not really imminent, but it’s not really even foreseeable to me at this point.

I’m not saying he’s bad, but to say he’s been overly good very much remains to be seen.

Also, the quote didn't say they've done poorly in terms of player moves, it said their management is known as the most dysfunctional in the league. That can mean a lot of things.

If the Leafs have Nylander, Matthews, Tavares, Marner, Kadri, Rielly, Andersen, Dermott, Liljegren and Sandin, they can pretty much fill out their roster with small contracts and ELCs. It's not going to be a problem.

Other than Marleau, the leafs have no bad contracts (and he only has 1 more year). Whenever this topic comes up, everyone thinks the Leafs will have trouble but forgets that basically ever NHL team has three or four terrible contracts.
- James_Tanner

Zaitsev.

They have a decent young team, they’ve built through drafting high. They didn’t have much choice, mind you, as they were near starting from scratch.

But an ascent to the top of the league doesn’t only seem not really imminent, but it’s not really even foreseeable to me at this point.

I’m not saying he’s bad, but to say he’s been overly good very much remains to be seen.

Also, the quote didn't say they've done poorly in terms of player moves, it said their management is known as the most dysfunctional in the league. That can mean a lot of things.
- prock

Chayka has done a good job of taking on burdensome contracts of other teams who need to shed cap space.

It's not a particularly difficult thing to do, and he doesn't deserve great credit for doing it.

I'm not actually saying Chayka is good or bad at this point. The truth is, he's never going to be able to put together a good team - at least not until the overall financial picture of the Coyotes improves. They won't have a shot at competing for a Stanley Cup until the actually start spending cap dollars on real players, instead of Chris Pronger and Hossa.

Zaitsev.
- Atomic Wedgie

Zatisev is a right handed defenseman making less than 5 million. His contract shouldn't be too hard to move if they even want to. I am not a fan really but the coach and management loves him.

Chayka has done a good job of taking on burdensome contracts of other teams who need to shed cap space.

It's not a particularly difficult thing to do, and he doesn't deserve great credit for doing it.

I'm not actually saying Chayka is good or bad at this point. The truth is, he's never going to be able to put together a good team - at least not until the overall financial picture of the Coyotes improves. They won't have a shot at competing for a Stanley Cup until the actually start spending cap dollars on real players, instead of Chris Pronger and Hossa.
- Atomic Wedgie

yeah pretty much. As I said, it remains to be seen.

Nothing he's done really screams that he's a GM genius to me. Nor does he really strike me as a bad GM either.

Zaitsev.
- Atomic Wedgie

I do'nt really see him as a bad contract. Pretty average for what he brings.

I do'nt really see him as a bad contract. Pretty average for what he brings.
- prock

He has the 66th highest cap hit of any defenceman in the league.

Simply put: he's vastly overpaid for what he provides.

Apparently Tanner is asleep at the switch.

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He has the 66th highest cap hit of any defenceman in the league.

Simply put: he's vastly overpaid for what he provides.
- Atomic Wedgie

so one of the higher paid second liners. And that's not including ELCs and RFA signed contracts?

Seems like a pretty normal contract for what he brings. You won't get much better in UFA.

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John Chayka said G Antti Raanta had a procedure on his injury and the damage was more extensive than originally thought. Possible he could miss the rest of the season. Right now, listing him as out indefinitely.
- Atomic Wedgie

Chayka to trade Chychrun for Jimmy Howard.

so one of the higher paid second liners. And that's not including ELCs and RFA signed contracts?

Seems like a pretty normal contract for what he brings. You won't get much better in UFA.
- prock

I’d consider him to be in the realm of DeKeyser contract bad.

"Best ever American player?"
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- creighton30

Gonna be tough to dethrone Jason Bonsignore as best 'murican ever