Neuvirth was at least partially culpable on all 3. First was a clear-sighted shot from a stoppable range. 2nd was screened but low glove. Third was a bad rebound on a shot he should have gloved. It wasn't all on Neuvirth -- 1st goal was culmination of a bad shift for the Flyers, 2nd one Provorov screened him, 3rd one Provorov didn't contain Tanev -- but Neuvirth was rusty and totally ineffective.
- bmeltzer

saves Stollie has been making

Yesterday @ 6:19 PM ET
If we are moving Simmonds, instead of trading him for just a 1st, I rather trade Simmonds + 2nd or 3rd + a prospect for immediate help.
- arichardson22

The problem is that the teams who are likely most interested in Simmonds are contenders. They’ll be looking to send picks/prospects back.


then I guess you need to flip those picks to someone else
- wcorvette

That's why I say as much as homer and Comcast want a quick turnaround through trades, it may not be possible. Teams smell blood withy the dynamic of having a gm basically brought in to make aggressive trades to fix the team short term.

There will be trades to make by moving sanheim ghost tk Patrick provy or the prospects for vets but I just don't think that's wise and hope fletch sees it the same way.

Otherwise you're right. Contenders will want to send prospects and picks that won't help us right now.

All I can see available is a trade with another struggling club to change up chemistry. I've mentioned say jake, simmer, maybe sanheim and high level prospects as well as even our first if it's not a lottery pick.

Maybe deal with Chicago, la or someone like that depending on what pieces we could get back. I wonder if la would part with quick if he can be proven to be healthy for example. If we could get 3 good healthy years from him, then maybe it's worth it. Takes pressure off hart and lets him develop.

To say this is a complicated mess is an understatement. I hate seeing them trade from a position of weakness.

one good save and one good save in the first and maybe a different game. Every team has those games where the puck is not your friend, if this team was not so inconsistent we could right it off to bad puck luck
- wcorvette

I was really disappointed in the decision to start neuvy, unless stollie was exhausted or something.

Come back with him. I bet he could have weathered that storm more effectively. I've really liked his ability to battle of late.

I was really disappointed in the decision to start neuvy, unless stollie was exhausted or something.

Come back with him. I bet he could have weathered that storm more effectively. I've really liked his ability to battle of late.
- Hextall271

I get it, Nuevy had to play a game and why not the one that you will probably lose. Stollie being 6 4 just bodes better for him to make the saves Nuevy missed on the first 3 goals

I get it, Nuevy had to play a game and why not the one that you will probably lose. Stollie being 6 4 just bodes better for him to make the saves Nuevy missed on the first 3 goals
- wcorvette

It's these types of coaching decisions that baffle me and tell me we need a change. And I've not been on the fire Hak train a lot. I think he has to go though as fletch needs to pick his guy. I guess you wait til the end of the season. Just frustrating that there's 54 games left and this season looks lost.

I get it, Nuevy had to play a game and why not the one that you will probably lose. Stollie being 6 4 just bodes better for him to make the saves Nuevy missed on the first 3 goals
- wcorvette

"Stollie" has not impressed me to think of him as more then a capable back-up. He leaves way too many openings for a goalie thats 6'4" and often cheats off the post.

That's why I say as much as homer and Comcast want a quick turnaround through trades, it may not be possible. Teams smell blood withy the dynamic of having a gm basically brought in to make aggressive trades to fix the team short term.

There will be trades to make by moving sanheim ghost tk Patrick provy or the prospects for vets but I just don't think that's wise and hope fletch sees it the same way.

Otherwise you're right. Contenders will want to send prospects and picks that won't help us right now.

All I can see available is a trade with another struggling club to change up chemistry. I've mentioned say jake, simmer, maybe sanheim and high level prospects as well as even our first if it's not a lottery pick.

Maybe deal with Chicago, la or someone like that depending on what pieces we could get back. I wonder if la would part with quick if he can be proven to be healthy for example. If we could get 3 good healthy years from him, then maybe it's worth it. Takes pressure off hart and lets him develop.

To say this is a complicated mess is an understatement. I hate seeing them trade from a position of weakness.
- Hextall271

The team is so flawed right now that it cannot be fixed mid season with a trade or two.

It's these types of coaching decisions that baffle me and tell me we need a change. And I've not been on the fire Hak train a lot. I think he has to go though as fletch needs to pick his guy. I guess you wait til the end of the season. Just frustrating that there's 54 games left and this season looks lost.
- Hextall271

this team is so inconsistent, they'll probably win the next 3....... and then lose the next 4. Just enough to keep them in the playoff picture. I still believe they make a run and make the playoffs.

The team is so flawed right now that it cannot be fixed mid season with a trade or two.
- Sinisalo4vr

Exactly. At this point, moves need to be made with 19-20 in mind. This season is already over

It's these types of coaching decisions that baffle me and tell me we need a change. And I've not been on the fire Hak train a lot. I think he has to go though as fletch needs to pick his guy. I guess you wait til the end of the season. Just frustrating that there's 54 games left and this season looks lost.
- Hextall271

The season is not over, The Rangers and Islanders are smoke and mirrors. They will fall back to earth soon. But if Fletcher wants this team to improve in time to make a difference then he needs to make changes soon. Like before the Christmas deadline.

"Stollie" has not impressed me to think of him as more then a capable back-up. He leaves way too many openings for a goalie thats 6'4" and often cheats off the post.
- youarewrong

If Elliott comes back (and plays like he did earlier), a capable back up is what they need. I don't know what they can do in-season to get a goalie.

this team is so inconsistent, they'll probably win the next 3....... and then lose the next 4. Just enough to keep them in the playoff picture. I still believe they make a run and make the playoffs.
- FlyerFan16

Yeah. I guess they could. G is playing well and could lead them.
I've just seen this movie before and would try a core changing hockey trade. Maybe at the draft. The core is just too inconsistent. That's why I would say look at moving jake and simmer out. Maybe that's enough.

"Stollie" has not impressed me to think of him as more then a capable back-up. He leaves way too many openings for a goalie thats 6'4" and often cheats off the post.
- youarewrong

to small of a sample size either way but I don't agree based upon what I have seen so far. With the grade A chances this team gives, Stollie has done real well. After he misses one he comes back with a big save. The Jets announcers called him the only bright spot for the Flyers

The team is so flawed right now that it cannot be fixed mid season with a trade or two.
- Sinisalo4vr

I agree. Most likely you have to fix this with off-season trades, a new coach and asst coach. Please just don't do anything drastic that sends out young talent or picks for old vets in an attempt at a short term fix.

to small of a sample size either way but I don't agree based upon what I have seen so far. With the grade A chances this team gives, Stollie has done real well. After he misses one he comes back with a big save. The Jets announcers called him the only bright spot for the Flyers
- wcorvette

I agree with you so far. I'd give him a ton of starts to see what we have.

Exactly. At this point, moves need to be made with 19-20 in mind. This season is already over
- BiggE

As much as it pains me to admit the season is not over. It was definitely a worse outlook last year after that 10 game slide and they came back. They’re 4 points back from 3rd in the division. The weak division worries me and what fletcher might try to do for this year

they can still make a run, their PP is to good not to have a good stretch coming up. I dont trade for a goalie, let Elliot and Stollie ride it.

Keep in mind no Coots yesterday and Nuevy was no help but for the first half of the game they played well.

I dont like how small our D is, you can see the size of the jets and it is hard for the D to handle.

Trade
Sniper that is a better fit and creates chemistry within the top 9
top 4 D

if you can do both, then you can make a run at the playoffs this year, if you can't, load up for next year.

I agree with you so far. I'd give him a ton of starts to see what we have.
- Hextall271

let him play let him play


bad news bears of hockey

The team is so flawed right now that it cannot be fixed mid season with a trade or two.
- Sinisalo4vr

This is just over-reaction. They have a good team and just need to get a PK specialist and keep Giroux at center. Hopefully Provy and Ghost pick up their play under new leadership. I wouldnt mind seeing Jake moved out in a "hockey trade" to pick up a younger, different player like Stone or Panarin. But once Couts is back the lineup will look much better with Giroux staying at center.

JVR-Giroux-Simmonds
Konecny-Couturier-Voracek
Lindblom-Patrick-Weise
Raffl-Laughton-Weal/Lehtera

If I'M the gm I want to see coots in the second line center position and lets see how they play from there. I also want to see Myers and Morin in the lineup later on as well. I would do this year as an eval period leading up to the trade deadline. If I can make a move that help now and in the future then id consider it. One player isn't going to make this team any better. Maybe a Quick trade or a bob signing over the summer will be needed but then again Im not into signing Bob for 7 years with Hart and Sandstrom in the minors. Max years would be 3 , maybe 4.

I keep hearing over and over....this team can't be fixed with a trade or two. That may be true. But, Fletcher was brought in to change the landscape for this team. There are going to be changes and I think these changes will be on a large scale. It probably won't all happen this year, but between now and next September I think Fletchers stamp will be on this team.
Now some guys around here might not agree with what's going to happen but sitting back and doing nothing is off the table.

3 changes I think will happen before deadline this year.
1) coaching change.
2) trade for a high end Goalie....my guess.. Quick from LA.
3)Major trade involving more than one core piece.

I also see some demotions coming....long over due.

The season is not over, The Rangers and Islanders are smoke and mirrors. They will fall back to earth soon. But if Fletcher wants this team to improve in time to make a difference then he needs to make changes soon. Like before the Christmas deadline.
- youarewrong

They aren’t catching any of the top 5 teams in the Atlantic so the wildcard isn’t happening. They also aren’t finishing ahead of Washington and Columbus. Finally as bad as they’ve been, the Pens still have a positive goal differential along with 2 hall of fame centers. At worst, they’ll finish with 92 points and 94-95 is more likely. While 92 points might get them in, needing 95 is still a strong possibility.

To get to 92, they need to go 30-19-5 from here on out. For 95, 31-17-6. Possible? Sure, technically it’s possible. Is it even remotely likely? No, it’s not. It sucks, but it’s the reality of the situation.

i have defended Lethera in the past but he is just too slow, he is a full step off the pace. It shows in the PK and on the rushes. It is the 4th line but either bring someone up or shove Weal in, he cant score but at least they get the puck, terrible...

when Coots is back, leave G at Center, drop Weal on the wing... If a good trade comes up so be it.

Mr. Fletcher, please don't be foolish and give up significant assets to trade for a player like Quick. He has 4 more years at 5.8M after this season and he has a significant injury history.

Mr. Fletcher ….lets do nothing like our previous GM that had all the sheep fooled. The Flyers are a mediocre team and can not be fixed. so please don't try.
Putz.