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Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Learn hockey, idiot., ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Dec 8 @ 4:46 PM ET
People who want to trade Brown...SAD!
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Dec 8 @ 4:47 PM ET
People who want to trade Brown...SAD!
- Zezel


4th liner getting 2.1 million. That's pretty sad.
HealthyScratch6
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.13.2014

Dec 8 @ 4:48 PM ET
Highly doubt it.

The leafs use their one D on the power play in the center point to pass off to the wingers.

There is no place for a one time slapper from a D...Leafs PP is all about movement

- Santo_44

You just describe their first pp unit. Second unit is a mess. doesnt seem to have much set structure when they can get it set up. A big shot dman or forward on their off wing would at least make them a bit of threat.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Dec 8 @ 4:54 PM ET
Highly doubt it.

The leafs use their one D on the power play in the center point to pass off to the wingers.

There is no place for a one time slapper from a D...Leafs PP is all about movement

- Santo_44


Because they don't have anybody who has a Weber-like slapshot. If they had one, their PP set-up would be different. Kadri would get demoted to the 2nd unit and replaced with a RHD with a big shot who plays on the left side.

Matthews / Tavares / Marner
RHD / Rielly

Kapanen / Kadri / Marleau
Nylander / Gardiner
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Dec 8 @ 5:08 PM ET
meh.. theres only so many good players and the leafs have a poop ton.. what would rackell and gibson be on this team now? a second line winger and a back-up..

leafs need one more D and toughness.. Then they'll be air-tight... They have to adjust their roster soon so they can gel over the last 50 games... Browns gotta go..

- Arctic_AARDVARK

Gibson is better then Anderson. Rackell is a pretty good player, that was a poop trade in hindsight but it is what it is
HealthyScratch6
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.13.2014

Dec 8 @ 5:09 PM ET
Because they don't have anybody who has a Weber-like slapshot. If they had one, their PP set-up would be different. Kadri would get demoted to the 2nd unit and replaced with a RHD with a big shot who plays on the left side.

Matthews / Tavares / Marner
RHD / Rielly

Kapanen / Kadri / Marleau
Nylander / Gardiner

- Unholy_Goalie

I dont think theres anything wrong with the first unit as is. You dont change something thats working. Second unit could use some work. Maybe when willy is back too 100% him kapanen and gardiner can figure it out.
HealthyScratch6
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.13.2014

Dec 8 @ 5:12 PM ET
Gibson is better then Anderson. Rackell is a pretty good player, that was a poop trade in hindsight but it is what it is
- ClarksonDavid

Debatable
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Dec 8 @ 5:13 PM ET
I dont think theres anything wrong with the first unit as is. You dont change something thats working. Second unit could use some work. Maybe when willy is back too 100% him kapanen and gardiner can figure it out.
- HealthyScratch6


The part that is working are the four guys that are still there. The part that isn't (Kadri) would be replaced by a better option that only makes it harder to stop.

If the Leafs had a big shot from a RHD playing on the left side, it's even harder to stop Matthews on the left side, even harder to stop Marner's cross ice pass, even harder to stop Tavares in front of the net and so on.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Dec 8 @ 5:15 PM ET
Debatable
- HealthyScratch6


Not really. Gibson has four straight seasons of .920+ SV%. It's certainly close but Anaheim picked the better one to keep.

Also, Gibson is exponentially better than what the Leafs got for him (and Rakell).

Moving up to get Biggs might be a contender for top 5 all-time worst Leafs trades.
HealthyScratch6
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.13.2014

Dec 8 @ 5:17 PM ET
The part that is working are the four guys that are still there. The part that isn't (Kadri) would be replaced by a better option that only makes it harder to stop.

If the Leafs had a big shot from a RHD playing on the left side, it's even harder to stop Matthews on the left side, even harder to stop Marner's cross ice pass, even harder to stop Tavares in front of the net and so on.

- Unholy_Goalie

Leafs would have to completely change their power play formation or are you going to have matthews and the RHD standing in the same spot. Right now they have Matthews Marner on the walls Rielly in the middle at the point tavares front of the net and Kadri high slot. If you replace Kadri where does the new guy go?
HealthyScratch6
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.13.2014

Dec 8 @ 5:20 PM ET
Not really. Gibson has four straight seasons of .920+ SV%. It's certainly close but Anaheim picked the better one to keep.

Also, Gibson is exponentially better than what the Leafs got for him (and Rakell).

Moving up to get Biggs might be a contender for top 5 all-time worst Leafs trades.

- Unholy_Goalie

I agree that its a terrible trade but it is debatable who's better. Anderson is having a better season. Who would you say is better right now anderson or price? All that matters is current performance.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Learn hockey, idiot., ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Dec 8 @ 5:22 PM ET
4th liner getting 2.1 million. That's pretty sad.
- Unholy_Goalie

😂
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Dec 8 @ 5:34 PM ET
Leafs would have to completely change their power play formation or are you going to have matthews and the RHD standing in the same spot. Right now they have Matthews Marner on the walls Rielly in the middle at the point tavares front of the net and Kadri high slot. If you replace Kadri where does the new guy go?
- HealthyScratch6


Wouldn't change that much, just rotates the players a bit. Having a big shot on the PP over Kadri would be an improvement.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Dec 8 @ 5:36 PM ET
I agree that its a terrible trade but it is debatable who's better. Anderson is having a better season. Who would you say is better right now anderson or price? All that matters is current performance.
- HealthyScratch6


Still Gibson. Without him, Anaheim is a lottery team. The difference in save percentage is only .05 this year. Gibson has consistently been the better goalie the past four seasons.
HealthyScratch6
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.13.2014

Dec 8 @ 5:38 PM ET
Wouldn't change that much, just rotates the players a bit. Having a big shot on the PP over Kadri would be an improvement.
- Unholy_Goalie

Leafs play the 1-3-1. Only place to put the new player is Kadri spot or pick another formation. Now if you wanted to improve the PP you could move rielly to the high slot put marner in his place and put willy on the wall where Marner was. Still have Marner as QB, Willy is more of a shooting threat off the wall and Rielly has a better shot that kadri.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Dec 8 @ 5:40 PM ET
People who want to trade Brown...SAD!
- Zezel


I really dislike his play the past 2 years. But he'd still be easy to move, and you can save 1-1.5 million easy.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Dec 8 @ 5:42 PM ET
Not really. Gibson has four straight seasons of .920+ SV%. It's certainly close but Anaheim picked the better one to keep.

Also, Gibson is exponentially better than what the Leafs got for him (and Rakell).

Moving up to get Biggs might be a contender for top 5 all-time worst Leafs trades.

- Unholy_Goalie


That was Burke. He is obsessed with big guys with little skill. He even found a big guy named Biggs. Now we are supposed to take him seriously when he rips the Leafs. LOL.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Dec 8 @ 5:47 PM ET
Leafs play the 1-3-1. Only place to put the new player is Kadri spot or pick another formation. Now if you wanted to improve the PP you could move rielly to the high slot put marner in his place and put willy on the wall where Marner was. Still have Marner as QB, Willy is more of a shooting threat off the wall and Rielly has a better shot that kadri.
- HealthyScratch6


Having a big shot from a RHD makes them more versatile. They can still set-up in a 1-3-1 or they can have a different set-up. Versatility means less predictability. Over time, teams will study the Leafs and learn how to stop what they do. But adding a big shot makes them even harder to stop

It's either:

Matthews / Tavares / Marner
RHD / Rielly

Or:

Tavares
Marner / Matthews / Rielly
RHD

And they could literally change formation mid shift if need be and attack two different ways.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Dec 8 @ 5:48 PM ET
That was Burke. He is obsessed with big guys with little skill. He even found a big guy named Biggs. Now we are supposed to take him seriously when he rips the Leafs. LOL.
- RogerRoeper


It was stupid and he drafted a lot of big goons like Devane which proved to be wasted picked and useless players.

That being said, it would have been really nice if he had landed just one physical player that still played for the Leafs because they could really use one right now.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Dec 8 @ 5:49 PM ET
It was stupid and he drafted a lot of big goons like Devane which proved to be wasted picked and useless players.

That being said, it would have been really nice if he had landed just one physical player that still played for the Leafs because they could really use one right now.

- Unholy_Goalie


Just trade for one but it must be a person like Simmons, not a 4th line goon that can't play.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Dec 8 @ 5:52 PM ET
I really dislike his play the past 2 years. But he'd still be easy to move, and you can save 1-1.5 million easy.
- RogerRoeper


I like Brown. He's been moved through the lineup.
Yes I'm also disappointed with his performance even if he's one of the primary pkers on this team.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Dec 8 @ 5:53 PM ET
All this talk about skill winning out in 2018, but for the life of me I can't recall who won the Stanley Cup this year! They were a pure finesse team, right?? That's what these experts are telling me; only skill is needed in today's NHL so it must be true!

I just wish I could remember who finessed their way to the last Stanley Cup...




- babcockblows


Is that why they won the cup though? Or is it more to do with the fact that their core players finally played their best come playoff time. Their franchise centre went from useless to playing like a superstar in the playoffs.

The Caps were a post away from still having no cup. Don't read too much into one particular thing. They now have Wilson on a horrific contract they're already regretting.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Dec 8 @ 5:53 PM ET
That was Burke. He is obsessed with big guys with little skill. He even found a big guy named Biggs. Now we are supposed to take him seriously when he rips the Leafs. LOL.
- RogerRoeper



and that haircut!.

HealthyScratch6
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.13.2014

Dec 8 @ 5:54 PM ET
Having a big shot from a RHD makes them more versatile. They can still set-up in a 1-3-1 or they can have a different set-up. Versatility means less predictability. Over time, teams will study the Leafs and learn how to stop what they do. But adding a big shot makes them even harder to stop

It's either:

Matthews / Tavares / Marner
RHD / Rielly

Or:

Tavares
Marner / Matthews / Rielly
RHD

And they could literally change formation mid shift if need be and attack two different ways.

- Unholy_Goalie

Almost every team in the league uses the 1-3-1. The only place for a big shot righty would be Matthews spot or Riellys spot. Leafs dont need the big shot RHD because they have matthews who is as lethal from that spot as any right shot. You're trying to wedge a square block into a round whole just to satisfy your fixation that the leafs need to add a big shot RHD. You would want to completely change one of the top power plays in the league just squeeze in a one timer.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Dec 8 @ 5:55 PM ET
and that haircut!.


- dmnted


He looks like an old, homeless drunk someone gave a suit to to try to get him hired.
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