Leafs 100% need more toughness.

Anyone who thinks the NHL has moved beyond the goon league it is, is (frank)ing delusional. Every goddamn night there’s guys getting run and we NEED to protect our stars.

I honestly can’t believe that so many of you are so stupid and this is even a discussion. I also have no idea how any of you still defend Connor Brown. It’s like you don’t even watch the games and just defend whatever bullpoop story the media fabricates. If the Leafs don’t wake the (frank) up and add a face-puncher and players who defend their teammates his will all be for nothing. The craziest thing for me is what the hell are you all worried about adding a tough guy? More penalties? He can’t keep up? Corsi stats? How about Marner misses a season with a concussion? Or Freddy goes down from getting run? Remember how entertaining it was in the 90’s and early 2000’s? Leafs may never won a cup, but they didn’t have the skill they do now.. and Sundin rarely got hurt.. so..

Leafs 100% need more toughness.

Anyone who thinks the NHL has moved beyond the goon league it is, is (frank)ing delusional. Every goddamn night there’s guys getting run and we NEED to protect our stars.

I honestly can’t believe that so many of you are so stupid and this is even a discussion. I also have no idea how any of you still defend Connor Brown. It’s like you don’t even watch the games and just defend whatever bullpoop story the media fabricates. If the Leafs don’t wake the (frank) up and add a face-puncher and players who defend their teammates his will all be for nothing. The craziest thing for me is what the hell are you all worried about adding a tough guy? More penalties? He can’t leep up? Corsi stats? How about Marner misses a season with a concussion? Or Freddy goes down from getting run? Remember how entertaining it was in the 90’s and early 2000’s? Leafs may never won a cup, but they didn’t have the skill they do now.. and Sundin rarely got hurt.. so..
- Arctic_AARDVARK

*fans when the leafs lose a game*

*fans when the leafs lose a game*
- Santo_44

It’s not even that..

Our stars are getting run, and the leafs get pushed around in the playoffs.

Matthews or Marner are going to get injured again and we’ll keep having this discussion.

I ask again, what are you worried about in adding a tough-guy?

Wod's crazy thought of the day.

I'm starting to warm up to this offer sheet thingy...both Matthews and Marner. That would be like 8 1st round picks or something. Leafs could choose 8 of the best RHD available in subsequent drafts, like hoarding bastards, while avoiding the cap anxiety (Hell) altogether. Rebuild the right way...from the net out, right?

Then just sit back and watch the offer sheet winning team implode financially. Simply offer them 2 - 1st round picks back and some other garbage to take them off their hands - of course the other team has to retain some salary, and of course both M&M will only accept a trade to the Leafs. Leafs would have both Marner and Matthews back plus 4 1st round picks. Jeanyuss.

In the meantime, the Leafs would suck, which would keep a bunch of Leafs fans happy. We'd all be on the same page - having fun trolling ourselves and ragging on the poopty, but cap friendly Leafs. I might even add an alt so I could troll myself like that schizophrenic Landsbergfan guy. Leafs could even goon it up for a few years to keep other fans happy with the bottom 6 comprised of nothing but a-holes to soften the East for the return of M&M.
I might die before a Stanley Cup, but I'd go in peace knowing this all came true.
- Woderwick

this was a crazy thought

leafs need less toughness

Trade Brown and Gardiner to CGY for Bennet and a 2nd. (frank) it.

Call up Marchment, Rosen, and Borgman.

Hyman Matthews Nylander
Marleau Tavares Marner
Bennett Kadri Kapanen
Marchment Lindholm Johnsson

Rielly Hainsey
Dermott Zaitsev
Borgman Rosen
Ozhiganov

It’s not even that..

Our stars are getting run, and the leafs get pushed around in the playoffs.

Matthews or Marner are going to get injured again and we’ll keep having this discussion.

I ask again, what are you worried about in adding a tough-guy?
- Arctic_AARDVARK

I’m with you. Made guys like marner and Matthews will learn to protect themselves on the rush as much as Sydney Crosby does. He’s been taking beating a lot. Remember Matt niskanen cross check to Crosby’s kneck or head.

Trade Brown and Gardiner to CGY for Bennet and a 2nd. (frank) it.

Call up Marchment, Rosen, and Borgman.

Hyman Matthews Nylander
Marleau Tavares Marner
Bennett Kadri Kapanen
Marchment Lindholm Johnsson

Rielly Hainsey
Dermott Zaitsev
Borgman Rosen
Ozhiganov
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Sam Bennett fights Ian cole in response to a team mate getting hit by cole

http://www.hockeyfights.com/fights/141154

this was a crazy thought
- daeth

Right?

I'm good for one a year...years almost over.

Check the stats and use your eyes.

Neither player is that good at defense.

It is why they are 4th liners.
- Santo_44

Never said he was great at defense but he's a million times better than Ennis.

Using my eye I see him coming back and covering for pinching dman. Ennis never does because he's alway on his backside behind the net.

Lievo is far from physical
- Santo_44

He's bigger and more physical than Ennis?

Sam Bennett fights Ian cole in response to a team mate getting hit by cole

http://www.hockeyfights.com/fights/141154
- BreathLeafs2015

Nope!

Can’t have that!

We gotta let Matthews and Marner get run and hopefully we can get a power play!

We can’t have teammates sticking up for each other vigilante-style, we might end up taking a penalty!!

Leafs 100% need more toughness.

Anyone who thinks the NHL has moved beyond the goon league it is, is (frank)ing delusional. Every goddamn night there’s guys getting run and we NEED to protect our stars.

I honestly can’t believe that so many of you are so stupid and this is even a discussion. I also have no idea how any of you still defend Connor Brown. It’s like you don’t even watch the games and just defend whatever bullpoop story the media fabricates. If the Leafs don’t wake the (frank) up and add a face-puncher and players who defend their teammates his will all be for nothing. The craziest thing for me is what the hell are you all worried about adding a tough guy? More penalties? He can’t keep up? Corsi stats? How about Marner misses a season with a concussion? Or Freddy goes down from getting run? Remember how entertaining it was in the 90’s and early 2000’s? Leafs may never won a cup, but they didn’t have the skill they do now.. and Sundin rarely got hurt.. so..
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Haha

It’s not even that..

Our stars are getting run, and the leafs get pushed around in the playoffs.

Matthews or Marner are going to get injured again and we’ll keep having this discussion.

I ask again, what are you worried about in adding a tough-guy?
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Remember when we had Martin and Matthews never got hurt and Andersen never got run?

Yeah me neither. A goon doesn't stop poop.

Leafs 100% need more toughness.

Anyone who thinks the NHL has moved beyond the goon league it is, is (frank)ing delusional. Every goddamn night there’s guys getting run and we NEED to protect our stars.

I honestly can’t believe that so many of you are so stupid and this is even a discussion. I also have no idea how any of you still defend Connor Brown. It’s like you don’t even watch the games and just defend whatever bullpoop story the media fabricates. If the Leafs don’t wake the (frank) up and add a face-puncher and players who defend their teammates his will all be for nothing. The craziest thing for me is what the hell are you all worried about adding a tough guy? More penalties? He can’t keep up? Corsi stats? How about Marner misses a season with a concussion? Or Freddy goes down from getting run? Remember how entertaining it was in the 90’s and early 2000’s? Leafs may never won a cup, but they didn’t have the skill they do now.. and Sundin rarely got hurt.. so..
- Arctic_AARDVARK

I’m just reading this now and it’s refreshing cuz this same thinking as mine. I’m glad you stand up for what you think leafs really need. I did that last night much to the disagreement of others

Haha
- burn

You know it’s true.

Our stars are going to get run every time they play the Bruins or any other team that senses weakness.

Why not add more “grit”. At the very least we can get some satisfaction in getting revenge.

Remember when we had Martin and Matthews never got hurt and Andersen never got run?

Yeah me neither. A goon doesn't stop poop.
- burn

Martin sucked.

Add a player or players who can keep up and provide a physical presence.. This isn’t hard to understand Burnsie..

Nope!

Can’t have that!

We gotta let Matthews and Marner get run and hopefully we can get a power play!

We can’t have teammates sticking up for each other vigilante-style, we might end up taking a penalty!!
- Arctic_AARDVARK

You understand that the guys that are on the ice when it happens are the ones who stand up for each other right? And that those goons wouldn't be on the ice with those guys, like ever? Right?

No one said they shouldn't stand up for themselves. Team toughness. Adding a facepuncher doesn't negate Matthews injuries or stop others from happening.

I’m just reading this now and it’s refreshing cuz this same thinking as mine. I’m glad you stand up for what you think leafs really need. I did that last night much to the disagreement of others
- BreathLeafs2015

Guys in here just join a tribe..

Stick to your own observations and eventually they come around when anough people start agreeing.

Right now the flavour du jour is that you don’t need toughness to win. It’s never been true in hockey, and it’s not true now.

Martin sucked.

Add a player or players who can keep up and provide a physical presence.. This isn’t hard to understand Burnsie..
- Arctic_AARDVARK

No one ever said don't add gritt. Ever. Not once.

Gettig a goon is pointless. If you can add a guy who can play who has some size/gritt all the better. I would love to see something like that added (like Simmons?)

Guys in here just join a tribe..

Stick to your own observations and eventually they come around when anough people start agreeing.

Right now the flavour du jour is that you don’t need toughness to win. It’s never been true in hockey, and it’s not true now.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

I don't think anyone is saying that at all.

Nope!

Can’t have that!

We gotta let Matthews and Marner get run and hopefully we can get a power play!

We can’t have teammates sticking up for each other vigilante-style, we might end up taking a penalty!!
- Arctic_AARDVARK

All this excitement for our leaf team. Rightfully so. We are talent laden. If Matthews for example gets smashed into the boards let’s say by a Tom Wilson or a Ryan Reeves what will everyone say when 34 career is now in jeapordy because of reacorrent shots to with one of those shoulders etc or marner getting a concussion let alone we all know full well when a player is damaged goods you may not even recover assets in a trade. Leafs need help. Not debatable. Dubas always said at a draft to always draft the best player availabile rather then focus on a positional need as you can always trade in the future for the positional need by way of one of those drafted skilled player(s)

You understand that the guys that are on the ice when it happens are the ones who stand up for each other right? And that those goons wouldn't be on the ice with those guys, like ever? Right?

No one said they shouldn't stand up for themselves. Team toughness. Adding a facepuncher doesn't negate Matthews injuries or stop others from happening.
- burn

You understand that coaches can line-match right? If Matthews gets run then Babs can throw over the “messenger” then next time he’s on the ice. C’mon man, you’re better than this. Enough with the lame duck back-door responses about why they don’t need to get tougher.

I don't think anyone is saying that at all.
- burn

They’ve been saying it this whole time..

It was a team pack mentality ideology or somepoop lol.. yeah, that rabid wolf Nylander is really gonna do something..

Guys in here just join a tribe..

Stick to your own observations and eventually they come around when anough people start agreeing.

Right now the flavour du jour is that you don’t need toughness to win. It’s never been true in hockey, and it’s not true now.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

I agree fully and I’ll never be swayed it is and always will be part of the game