I'm not sure why Sautner doesn't get a bit more of a shot.
- neem55

Wouldn't mind if Canucks signed this kid as a overage free-agent.

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- Reubenkincade

I don't like his mustache

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Utica will always need players and the team always needs depth.
- Reubenkincade

They sign him to an AHL contract is better

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It looks like the addition of Michael Carcone to the Marlies roster may have pushed former Comets forward Griffin Molino out. He has been assigned to their ECHL club today.



This is disturbing

- VANTEL

I really do hope that JB is consciously thinking tank. It might honestly be better to leave a lot of those guys in Utica to do really well rather than bring them in to the show anyway.

I really do hope that JB is consciously thinking tank. I might honestly be better to leave a lot of those guys in Utica to do really well rather than bring them in to the show anyway.
- neem55

How does JB conciously tank?
Injuries require call-ups.
Become healthy players sent back.
Lastly tanking is as inexact a way to plan for in the NHL more so than any other league.

I really do hope that JB is consciously thinking tank. It might honestly be better to leave a lot of those guys in Utica to do really well rather than bring them in to the show anyway.
- neem55

I think if he honestly wanted he could improve the team tomorrow . McEneny has played here before and so has Sautner . There is no way they are worse than Pouliot.

Ron Maclean even said the other day "The general feeling around the league is Canucks are quite content to lose games by one goal"

As for Hughes it’s best we don’t burn a year of his ELC & be forced into using a protection spot for the Seattle e-draft.

How does JB conciously tank?
Injuries require call-ups.
Become healthy players sent back.
Lastly tanking is as inexact a way to plan for in the NHL more so than any other league.
- Nighthawk

How is it inexact? The majority of really good players in the NHL are top5 picks, it's not rocket science. He's tanked by not signing UFA's, leaving good replacements in Utica and (hopefully) trading whatever vets he can at the TDL. When they win it's because of the kids, that's the way it should be during a rebuild IMO. But it also requires patience and stockpiling those high picks that will lead your team. It's no mystery that the best two players on this team are top10 picks.

I think if he honestly wanted he could improve the team tomorrow . McEneny has played here before and so has Sautner . There is no way they are worse than Pouliot.

Ron Maclean even said the other day "The general feeling around the league is Canucks are quite content to lose games by one goal"
- VANTEL

Good. I like it. I mean they are in these games, just outclassed. Adding guys that would get minimal minutes isn't going to help. Let them become leaders in Utica.

How is it inexact? The majority of really good players in the NHL are top5 picks, it's not rocket science. He's tanked by not signing UFA's, leaving good replacements in Utica and (hopefully) trading whatever vets he can at the TDL. When they win it's because of the kids, that's the way it should be during a rebuild IMO. But it also requires patience and stockpiling those high picks that will lead your team. It's no mystery that the best two players on this team are top10 picks.
- neem55

Inexact...it’s a lottery
UFA’s...3 were signed
TDL...we should be sellers

Summary: tanking is results driven by the players. No control over other teams.

Our injury woes showed up & we were less competitive. When healthy we can do fine.
The toughest schedule playing more games than any team & 2 long eastern road trips wear down any team.

IMO this is not a team built to tank if reasonably healthy unlike our usual injury rash we have gone through. The kids get top 6 opportunity & the status quo D & G left unchanged while prospects develop or trades will happen. I hope for those trades.

I really do hope that JB is consciously thinking tank. It might honestly be better to leave a lot of those guys in Utica to do really well rather than bring them in to the show anyway.
- neem55

What makes you think they are doing well in Utica?

Inexact...it’s a lottery
UFA’s...3 were signed
TDL...we should be sellers

Summary: tanking is results driven by the players. No control over other teams.
- Nighthawk

we signed 3 bottom 6 players, none of them contribute to this team being much better. Particularly given the glaring need for d and goaltending that was not addressed in any way.

Summary: If as a GM, you do not make trades and signings to fill your roster with players that can help you win games and instead let the team be full of young players that will be inconsistent because of their level of experience than you are setting your team up to finish low in the standings. As opposed to other off-seasons where you sign and trade for players you think will make the team be able to win now (which was attempted in the past, but did not work because there's too many holes for this to be viable) than the GM is knowingly being patient, willing to lose now in order to get better picks/prospects (tank). Tanking is fielding a roster you know will lose but will also gain valuable experience and progress in terms of development. Knowing that this has worked for SO many teams past and present, this is the course of action management has taken and I do wholeheartedly think it is the right one.

How is it inexact? The majority of really good players in the NHL are top5 picks, it's not rocket science. He's tanked by not signing UFA's, leaving good replacements in Utica and (hopefully) trading whatever vets he can at the TDL. When they win it's because of the kids, that's the way it should be during a rebuild IMO. But it also requires patience and stockpiling those high picks that will lead your team. It's no mystery that the best two players on this team are top10 picks.
- neem55

Gagner, Del Zotto, Beagle, Schaller, Rousel, Neilsson, Vanek

Which "good replacements" are in Utica exactly?

Traded young players/picks for more experienced, NHL ready players.

Benning has basically done the exact opposite of everything you have said here.

What makes you think they are doing well in Utica?
- 1970vintage

because when I follow the team, I see young guys getting more minutes as the season goes on and taking on bigger roles. It's not so much "doing well" as developing IE/ getting minutes and experience that they wouldn't get at the NHL level.

Our injury woes showed up & we were less competitive. When healthy we can do fine.
The toughest schedule playing more games than any team & 2 long eastern road trips wear down any team.
- Nighthawk

If they are worn down after 30 games they don't belong in the NHL.

Giordano suspended 2 games for kneeing 👍

Gagner, Del Zotto, Beagle, Schaller, Rousel, Neilsson, Vanek

Which "good replacements" are in Utica exactly?

Traded young players/picks for more experienced, NHL ready players.

Benning has basically done the exact opposite of everything you have said here.
- 1970vintage

This year he has? I completely disagree, as the majority of those players you've mentioned were not signed this year and those that were are bottom 6 players.

I think if he honestly wanted he could improve the team tomorrow . McEneny has played here before and so has Sautner . There is no way they are worse than Pouliot.

Ron Maclean even said the other day "The general feeling around the league is Canucks are quite content to lose games by one goal"
- VANTEL

If they are worn down after 30 games they don't belong in the NHL.
- 1970vintage

Pretty much yes but that was a grueling 30 games eg no Eastern team could ever face.
That was an abnormal schedule to say the least. 2nd most man games lost & i wonder why some players get worn down 😂

because when I follow the team, I see young guys getting more minutes as the season goes on and taking on bigger roles. It's not so much "doing well" as developing IE/ getting minutes and experience that they wouldn't get at the NHL level.
- neem55

I'm not saying one way is better than another, I've never met any of these kids. But different people develop under a variety of conditions. Some players will benefit more by playing 8 minutes per night against the best players in the world while others need 20 minutes per night against their age group peers.

Basically what I'm saying is "playing more" does not equal "better development"

I'm not saying one way is better than another, I've never met any of these kids. But different people develop under a variety of conditions. Some players will benefit more by playing 8 minutes per night against the best players in the world while others need 20 minutes per night against their age group peers.

Basically what I'm saying is "playing more" does not equal "better development"
- 1970vintage

Cool. What I'm saying is: I completely disagree.