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Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Dec 8 @ 10:02 PM ET
Rust fell off the face of the earth. I thought he finally turned the corner as a decent middle six guy but (frank) he’s barely an nhl player at this point too.
- j.boyd919


It's baffling. At least in the pre-season and the first few games of the season they had that Simon-Brass-Rust line, Rust looked ready to go.

I'm hoping he finds his stride soon.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Dec 8 @ 10:05 PM ET
I'm not trying to make excuses for him, but he's playing with ZAR (who's barely an NHLer) and Rust who's lucky he remembers how to skate right now.
- Rinosaur


I just don't see the effort. Haven't seen it all year......maybe 2 or 3 games. Rust is gawd awful. Kid doesn't look like he belongs in the NHL at the moment, but I at least believe he's trying. ZAR too. I can honestly say, Brassard was the only guy on our bench where I question the effort......and I can say that about the majority of games I've seen from him in a Pens jersey.

Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Dec 8 @ 10:06 PM ET
I just don't see the effort. Haven't seen it all year......maybe 2 or 3 games. Rust is gawd awful. Kid doesn't look like he belongs in the NHL at the moment, but I at least believe he's trying. ZAR too. I can honestly say, Brassard was the only guy on our bench where I question the effort......and I can say that about the majority of games I've seen from him in a Pens jersey.
- madmike71


I think we're going to have to agree to disagree. I have a very different view when I see Brassard play.

jchst22
Joined: 01.24.2013

Dec 8 @ 10:11 PM ET
I just don't see the effort. Haven't seen it all year......maybe 2 or 3 games. Rust is gawd awful. Kid doesn't look like he belongs in the NHL at the moment, but I at least believe he's trying. ZAR too. I can honestly say, Brassard was the only guy on our bench where I question the effort......and I can say that about the majority of games I've seen from him in a Pens jersey.
- madmike71

Rust has been my most frustrating player. Read a good bit of articles saying how good his offseason was and he has shown nothing.

ZAR looked really good on the pk today. I admit to not seeing many games with him in the line up but he does go to the net and seems to skate well.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Dec 8 @ 10:12 PM ET
I think we're going to have to agree to disagree. I have a very different view when I see Brassard play.
- Rinosaur


That's fine.
Thrill81
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CA
Joined: 07.31.2018

Dec 8 @ 10:15 PM ET
That's fine.
- madmike71


This board needs more of this and less of:
" SEE IF YOU INSULT UR A LOSER WITH NO ARGUMENT "

Not directed at anyone or anything lol.
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Dec 8 @ 10:16 PM ET
I think we may have one of the better 4th lines the way they play with high effort throughout the game. I think we need some upgrades on the 2nd and 3rd lines. Hopefully JR can do something to help upgrade them. I think this game would have been different if the refs called a little bit more
Thrill81
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CA
Joined: 07.31.2018

Dec 8 @ 10:17 PM ET
It's baffling. At least in the pre-season and the first few games of the season they had that Simon-Brass-Rust line, Rust looked ready to go.

I'm hoping he finds his stride soon.

- Rinosaur


You can't even fault Pens management for this one. They handled everything perfectly with Rust, and he just lost it this season. He's always been a guy to show up when it matters most, so I was gonna say he'll probably show up in the playoffs, but for the pens, that could be an if. Rust better show up now if he wants the Pens playing meaningful hockey come spring time.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Dec 8 @ 10:22 PM ET
This board needs more of this and less of:
" SEE IF YOU INSULT UR A LOSER WITH NO ARGUMENT "

Not directed at anyone or anything lol.

- Thrill81


Delete your account

Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Dec 8 @ 10:24 PM ET
You can't even fault Pens management for this one. They handled everything perfectly with Rust, and he just lost it this season. He's always been a guy to show up when it matters most, so I was gonna say he'll probably show up in the playoffs, but for the pens, that could be an if. Rust better show up now if he wants the Pens playing meaningful hockey come spring time.
- Thrill81


You definitely can't fault management.
jchst22
Joined: 01.24.2013

Dec 8 @ 10:28 PM ET
You can't even fault Pens management for this one. They handled everything perfectly with Rust, and he just lost it this season. He's always been a guy to show up when it matters most, so I was gonna say he'll probably show up in the playoffs, but for the pens, that could be an if. Rust better show up now if he wants the Pens playing meaningful hockey come spring time.
- Thrill81

Who can we fault so we can riot together
Thrill81
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CA
Joined: 07.31.2018

Dec 8 @ 10:32 PM ET
You definitely can't fault management.
- Rinosaur


While on the topic of management, I guess as a fan base we're hoping Sprong doesn't become the next Phil Kessel and have to regret letting him go.
Thrill81
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CA
Joined: 07.31.2018

Dec 8 @ 10:33 PM ET
Who can we fault so we can riot together
- jchst22


The "Liberal Media" haha just kidding. Let's all get together and kick the sh!t outta Tom Wilson. That outta help.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Dec 8 @ 10:34 PM ET
Hey Brass...

What would you say You do here? - What would you say You do here?  Office Space

Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Dec 8 @ 10:35 PM ET
While on the topic of management, I guess as a fan base we're hoping Sprong doesn't become the next Phil Kessel and have to regret letting him go.
- Thrill81


I guess that depends on who you ask. I don't wish any player has a poor career just so our team doesn't look foolish.

I think Sprong is a very talented player who got a raw deal and will flourish on a team that gives him a real shot. Will he turn into a 30+ goal guy? I have no idea, but I believe he's definitely a solid top-nine winger.

I more hope that Petterson turns out to be a valuable player for the Pens.

EDIT: Actually, I do hope the Sprong becomes the next Kessel, so they won't do this to the next offensive-minded forward they draft.
jchst22
Joined: 01.24.2013

Dec 8 @ 10:43 PM ET
Hey Brass...

What would you say You do here? - What would you say You do here?  Office Space

- madmike71

If rust was the 20g guy everyone projected him as, that third line wouldn’t be an issue. Nor would the secondary scoring. At least with Hagelin when he wasn’t scoring he was great on the forecheck and always around the puck. Rust just looks like he is an ahl player right now.

I believe in him still given his efforts from the cup runs, but how many more games can he just not make any difference?
jchst22
Joined: 01.24.2013

Dec 8 @ 10:45 PM ET
I guess that depends on who you ask. I don't wish any player has a poor career just so our team doesn't look foolish.

I think Sprong is a very talented player who got a raw deal and will flourish on a team that gives him a real shot. Will he turn into a 30+ goal guy? I have no idea, but I believe he's definitely a solid top-nine winger.

I more hope that Petterson turns out to be a valuable player for the Pens.

EDIT: Actually, I do hope the Sprong becomes the next Kessel, so they won't do this to the next offensive-minded forward they draft.

- Rinosaur

Don’t think it’s Rutherford. He signed Alexander admin to that deal in Carolina. I likened sprong to that type of game. Sullivan prefers vanilla 90ft players over one with higher offensive skill
Thrill81
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CA
Joined: 07.31.2018

Dec 8 @ 10:50 PM ET
I guess that depends on who you ask. I don't wish any player has a poor career just so our team doesn't look foolish.

I think Sprong is a very talented player who got a raw deal and will flourish on a team that gives him a real shot. Will he turn into a 30+ goal guy? I have no idea, but I believe he's definitely a solid top-nine winger.

I more hope that Petterson turns out to be a valuable player for the Pens.

EDIT: Actually, I do hope the Sprong becomes the next Kessel, so they won't do this to the next offensive-minded forward they draft.

- Rinosaur


Haha I was more messing around. It'd take a lot more for me to wish ill will on a player's career. I'll agree with you on the edit part because if DP and Sprong don't make headlines, I can see the penguins botching the futures of many other young players, with the sheep fans saying "Sprong and DP never became anything".
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Dec 8 @ 10:51 PM ET
Don’t think it’s Rutherford. He signed Alexander admin to that deal in Carolina. I likened sprong to that type of game. Sullivan prefers vanilla 90ft players over one with higher offensive skill
- jchst22


"They" was geared more toward the coaching staff.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Dec 8 @ 11:36 PM ET
If rust was the 20g guy everyone projected him as, that third line wouldn’t be an issue. Nor would the secondary scoring. At least with Hagelin when he wasn’t scoring he was great on the forecheck and always around the puck. Rust just looks like he is an ahl player right now.

I believe in him still given his efforts from the cup runs, but how many more games can he just not make any difference?

- jchst22


I think it's time to let Rust watch a few games.....let him clear his head.
jchst22
Joined: 01.24.2013

Dec 8 @ 11:43 PM ET
I think it's time to let Rust watch a few games.....let him clear his head.
- madmike71

I’d agree if there was a body to replace him...maybe when hornqvist Simon or even Cullen come back
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Dec 9 @ 8:03 AM ET
I didn't mind last night's game. Pens were the better team by a margin. Anderson stood on his head especially in the 1st. I'll take the point.

One of the most controlling games I've ever seen a Crosby line have I think.

Maatta was a bit rough last night BUT that first goal against/of game that looked like he was out of it, both mind and position, he was actually tripped pretty bad to start the sequence. Scrambling to get back into position and what not he made an errorant clear/outlet to a Sen....then in moments, 1-0 Sens. Still though, overall, he could of had a better night.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Dec 9 @ 12:59 PM ET
Rust fell off the face of the earth. I thought he finally turned the corner as a decent middle six guy but (frank) he’s barely an nhl player at this point too.
- j.boyd919

Everything is fine.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Dec 9 @ 1:06 PM ET
Don’t think it’s Rutherford. He signed Alexander admin to that deal in Carolina. I likened sprong to that type of game. Sullivan prefers vanilla 90ft players over one with higher offensive skill
- jchst22

Yohe said plenty of times that Ruth loved Sprong. When we finally traded him the old man said something along the lines that it wasn’t fair to keep him in this situation. I think if it was purely up to Rutherford Sprong would have a serious role on this team. I think this goes back to the disconnect between the GM and coach we’ve all been talking about. I don’t think Rutherford and Sullivan are good fits for each other, but hey, at least we got two Cups out of this disfunctional marriage so I can’t complain too much.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Dec 9 @ 4:16 PM ET
I'd like to see someone new altogether. What I've seen from Dea is blah. Maybe, just maybe there is another player in WBS that could contribute something else. The must think little of guys like Angello and DiPauli.
- Thorny87


Yeah, I guess they think Garrett Wilson will provide more than some of the other guys. I really think you just call up whomever from WBS who brings the most tenacity/passion/speed and play them until its time to swap them for someone else. I thought Archibald was a good example of that..

To be honest, while I agree Dea doesnt really standout.. Dea looks a heckuva lot like this years version of Bryan Rust . I truly wonder if Rust has any trade value left...
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