I think the blueline will improve a little when Murphy returns.
- Hank3Henshaw

I sure hope so. Pretty low bar.

Most of the weican fans don't like Toews but like whiny female dog boy Kane. Simple as that. Neither are worth their contracts.
- GPHawksfan

Your a douch bag! Go away jackass

Pretty sure Gus was playing big minutes for Q this year.

Dineen of the powerless powerplay Dineen?

- gazza53

As bad as it was, the PP has gotten even worse, as has the PK.

Who the F proposed the Hawks go after Kessell and can someone get that poster intervention for crack abuse?

Hawks have no business going after players like that, period. The era is over, time to pull the band-aid off quickly. Crawford and Keith should be moved as they have some value left. Seabrook is unmovable, but you try to move him, maybe retain salary. Anisimov should be moved, best he'll get is a middle round pick.

I figure Keith, Crow and AA should get the Hawks 4-6 good prospects, possibly a first round pick or two in the mix.

I also think it's serious times to consider 19 and 88. They are both in their prime, but by the time the team has a healthy stock of talent against (assuming Bowman isn't the one in charge) those two will be washed up. This team is lightyears from being an upper echelon team again.
- kwolf68

Kane could be the Herschel Walker type trade that reloads this team. Lets be realistic. This team is at least two years away from being relevant again. We need a ton of D help. Kane could bring that and alot more. Do nothing and 19/88 will languish on crap teams. Have to pull out the shovel and gut this team and rebuild.

I also try to move 2, 7 and 50 at the deadline.

FWIW, Bettman has what he's wanted, no dynasties.

Of the Top 10 teams, 6 were awful a few years ago: TOR, COL, CLG, BUF, WPG, CBJ.

The 2 worst teams (LAK & CHI) won 5 of the 6 SCs between 2010-15. And PIT now ranked 20th) looks to be headed down as well, after their 2 recent Cups.

And, interestingly, it's not only about the draft (see EDM).
- scottak

Expansion also dilutes depth and talent

Kane could be the Herschel Walker type trade that reloads this team. Lets be realistic. This team is at least two years away from being relevant again. We need a ton of D help. Kane could bring that and alot more. Do nothing and 19/88 will languish on crap teams. Have to pull out the shovel and gut this team and rebuild.

I also try to move 2, 7 and 50 at the deadline.
- z1990z

Or the Ollie Matson trade that brought the Cardinals nine players - who basically did nothing for Chicago’s forgotten football team.

You rarely get back appropriate value when you move superstars - if your trading partner gives up value, they remove from their club the reasons they wanted the superstar in the first place.

Who the F proposed the Hawks go after Kessell and can someone get that poster intervention for crack abuse?

Hawks have no business going after players like that, period. The era is over, time to pull the band-aid off quickly. Crawford and Keith should be moved as they have some value left. Seabrook is unmovable, but you try to move him, maybe retain salary. Anisimov should be moved, best he'll get is a middle round pick.

I figure Keith, Crow and AA should get the Hawks 4-6 good prospects, possibly a first round pick or two in the mix.

I also think it's serious times to consider 19 and 88. They are both in their prime, but by the time the team has a healthy stock of talent against those two will be washed up. This team is lightyears from being an upper echelon team again.

That all said I don't want ANY of the above done if GM Howdy Doody is making the decisions.
- kwolf68

Ryan Hartman landed them a first round pick + a prospect. If SB plays his cards right, that trio should be able to get the Hawks first round picks and prospects as well. I would be very interested to see how Seabrook, Keith, and Crawford all play with teams who are legit and deep.

Or the Ollie Matson trade that brought the Cardinals nine players - who basically did nothing for Chicago’s forgotten football team.

You rarely get back appropriate value when you move superstars.
- StLBravesFan

Just spit balling. This is such a mess.

All things considered, would have been better to let Q just finish the season. This early hook just made things worse. JC is in an impossible spot with this awful roster and even worse GM.
- z1990z

Yep, and it shows that sb and mcd haven't a clue on how to
run the organization

It’s amazing how the 2 teams (LA & CHI) have dominated this decade are now in a position where they need/should trade most of their core. Like you guys suggesting trading everyone except maybe Toews and Kane. I’m all for the Kings trading everyone except Kopitar and Doughty. Aim for the highest pick possible this year and get picks/prospects in the process and start a rebuild.

All things must come to an end. I can’t imagine LA and CHI getting the top 2 picks this year, but I sure hope it happens.

Who the F proposed the Hawks go after Kessell and can someone get that poster intervention for crack abuse?

Hawks have no business going after players like that, period. The era is over, time to pull the band-aid off quickly. Crawford and Keith should be moved as they have some value left. Seabrook is unmovable, but you try to move him, maybe retain salary. Anisimov should be moved, best he'll get is a middle round pick.

I figure Keith, Crow and AA should get the Hawks 4-6 good prospects, possibly a first round pick or two in the mix.

I also think it's serious times to consider 19 and 88. They are both in their prime, but by the time the team has a healthy stock of talent against those two will be washed up. This team is lightyears from being an upper echelon team again.

That all said I don't want ANY of the above done if GM Howdy Doody is making the decisions.
- kwolf68

I did. I was just generating discussion. Thanks for your input.

Do the Hawks take San Jose's first for Crow? i think they would especially if they could get a NHL ready d prospect like Guhle/McCabe with it
- ikeane

San Jose already traded their first to Buffalo for Kane.

As bad as it was, the PP has gotten even worse, as has the PK.
- RickJ

Ya but they have looked better, I'm seeing more compete
on the PP at times and more aggressive play on the Pk.
maybe just give it a bit more time, nuances don't change
overnight

Do you think Buffalo looks at their goalie situation and thinks that can win them a cup if they get in? Hutton has never won a playoff series and is what he is. A serviceable 33 year old goalie that isn't a #1. Ulmark may be the future, but Crawford isn't signed for that long. I just think they might want to go all in.
- breadbag

I had my doubts about Hutton too, but he has been rock solid for them this year. I don't think he's the second coming of Tim Thomas, but there is merit to the Thomas argument. Ulmark could be their Niemi come playoff time. I don't think they're necessarily looking to acquire a goalie right now, Botterill has been stocking up on NHL ready players and isn't looking to shed more prospects. Although they do have 3 first round picks next year (one is top ten protected with St. Louis).

Ya but they have looked better, I'm seeing more compete
on the PP at times and more aggressive play on the Pk.
maybe just give it a bit more time, nuances don't change
overnight
- gazza53

Just to inject life, I'm surprised JC had not turned the 4th line loose and tell them to hammer away. Why not?

It’s amazing how the 2 teams (LA & CHI) have dominated this decade are now in a position where they need/should trade most of their core. Like you guys suggesting trading everyone except maybe Toews and Kane. I’m all for the Kings trading everyone except Kopitar and Doughty. Aim for the highest pick possible this year and get picks/prospects in the process and start a rebuild.

All things must come to an end. I can’t imagine LA and CHI getting the top 2 picks this year, but I sure hope it happens.
- KINGS67

It is amazing how fast the decline has occurred. At the end of the WCF in ‘14, if the ghost of hockey seasons future would have visited us and said “enjoy it now folks, because in four years both teams will be league bottom dwellers” I don’t think anyone would have believed it.

Do you think Buffalo looks at their goalie situation and thinks that can win them a cup if they get in? Hutton has never won a playoff series and is what he is. A serviceable 33 year old goalie that isn't a #1. Ulmark may be the future, but Crawford isn't signed for that long. I just think they might want to go all in.
- breadbag

Sabres goaltending is one of the only reasons the record is what it is right now.

Hutton and Ullmark are fine.

Pass on Crawford.

Now if Saad is available on the other hand.

kane and toews stay...
craw must stay..but he would get the most in return from a contender in search of that elite cup winning goalie
keith is trade able for a team in need of a 2-3 4 dman nos special teams; not going to get much but freeing up 5 mil cap
seabs would require salary retention or a bad contract in return...

i am astonished to see toew/kane/craw team play like this over over the last 10 games; truly remarkable how everything has gone wrong

Sabres goaltending is one of the only reasons the record is what it is right now.

Hutton and Ullmark are fine.

Pass on Crawford.

Now if Saad is available on the other hand.
- ImThatGuy

What would be a realistic price for Saad in your opinion?

What would be a realistic price for Saad in your opinion?
- nickmo2699

David Rundblad?

San Jose already traded their first to Buffalo for Kane.
- ObeseOprah

that was what i meant, which is why I used the buffalo dmen Guhle or McCabe. sorry, started mid-thought

Ryan Hartman landed them a first round pick + a prospect. If SB plays his cards right, that trio should be able to get the Hawks first round picks and prospects as well. I would be very interested to see how Seabrook, Keith, and Crawford all play with teams who are legit and deep.
- frafra

Hartman was an RFA and is very young.

Seabrook wont bring much in return, IMO.

Keith is interesting, but again he is on the downside of his career, still very good, but teams will be afraid of the drop off.

Crawford, I don't see a lot of interest in.

Again just an outside perspective.
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I wouldn't say it's asinine, teams that are looking to make a run and tryingmto trade to shore up have less advantage and get fleeced. Saad for laine isn't a bad offer it's a starting piece. What's your solution to improve this team
- Taylorst1

Not a bad offer from a Hawks perspective maybe. A laughable offer from a Jets point of view. You're talking trading a 26 y.o., 6'1, 206 lb Saad who has 133 goals in 7 1/4 seasons for Laine at 20 y.o, 6'5, 206 lb who has 101 goals in 2 1/4 seasons.

That makes no sense.

Ok fine...
But WHY ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH would Winnipeg trade Laine for Saad.
I would take the deal in a second because we would be trade raping Winnipeg!
I live in Winnipeg and Liane is slowly if not already achieving god like status.
Personally I feel he is a one trick pony but he fills seats
If Winnipeg made this trade...there would be rioting down Portage Ave lmao
I would do the Trouba for Keith from Winnipeg's perspective.
Trouba does not want to be here and it shows imo.
I think Keith provides a PP QB and would help Morrisey faster become the great player I feel he will be.
I feel a change of scenery would do Trouba a great service.
Personally...I would trade Kane for some young talent/picks and give him a chance to not end his career with a losing team.
Same with Toews.
They served the Hawks well....let them move. on.
For who...no idea.
- DixieDog

Love watching the Jets play, they are fun, wreckless and talented. Hope they can make it thru the Central Division this year.

But Chevy has work to do to reinforce the roster for the playoffs and deal with who he has to pay going forward. Laine will get close to $10M and they also have to pay Connor and Trouba (unless he forces a trade out). 2 or 3 of Perrault, Little, Myers and Kulikov will probably be gone.

If Keith would accept a trade he would have a helluva lot of fun playing with that team.

Hartman was an RFA and is very young.

Seabrook wont bring much in return, IMO.

Keith is interesting, but again he is on the downside of his career, still very good, but teams will be afraid of the drop off.

Crawford, I don't see a lot of interest in.

Again just an outside perspective.

- ImThatGuy[url]

Trade Keith for a 1st and a solid D prospect. Flip that 1st to help move Seabs. CC is a two time Cup winner. He will have value at the deadline. But do we want Stan making any more trades?