If Winnipeg wants Saad it would take more than Laine, they would need to throw in Connor and Morrisey.
- DarthKane

I would still decline. They would need to give up Scheifele with Laine.

I think Hawks would reluctantly have to throw in Seabrook for salary reasons, but WINN can add 2 1st rounders to even it out

I wouldn't say it's asinine, teams that are looking to make a run and tryingmto trade to shore up have less advantage and get fleeced. Saad for laine isn't a bad offer it's a starting piece. What's your solution to improve this team
- Taylorst1

Laine is a generational (as in, once in a generational talent) goal scoring machine and is a piece that the Jets are going to be building around for the next 10-13 years, Saad is a nice player. Your trade proposals are absolutely preposterous

I think the blueline will improve a little when Murphy returns.

I wouldn't say it's asinine, teams that are looking to make a run and tryingmto trade to shore up have less advantage and get fleeced. Saad for laine isn't a bad offer it's a starting piece. What's your solution to improve this team
- Taylorst1

First move is clear: Get rid of Stanbo.

Of course the owners are ok with it- they all signed off on the CBA, including Rocky.
- Davewn

Just because Rocky signed the CBA doesn't mean he is 100% for it. Have you ever been a part of a jury?

I'd agree with you JL about Kane/Toews. They are vets you keep. Both guys are still the two that make this team go.

To me, while depth is not what it was up front, it is still the D that is the big let down.

Keith can still play if he has a decent partner, but his age makes him someone you are okay to move IMO. What I wonder about with moving him, will his contract be the issue for the Hawks. If they deal him and he decides to retire, they are on the hook for the penalties. I know he could end up like most of the other players and find a way on LTIR, but I think that really would be up to Keith and his new team at that point. There is a good chance the Hawks keep him and he retires (LTIR) as a Hawks at some point. I still think the Hawks will need to slot him as the #3 soon and find two guys who can be the new #1 and #2 dmen. Keith has a NMC forever in his deal, so really he is in the driver's seat.


Seabrook, I think way more likely they would move him. His contract is a problem and his skating, defending and handling the puck under pressure are suspect. I was hoping he would be traded back when he was nearing UFA status, but here we are. If Stan can find a trade where we don't get screwed to move him, they should do it. Even if you lose the trade a bit, you free up cash and can move on with another player. Seabrook has full NMC for a long time, so it just might not happen.

Crawford is a tough one, but I think there will be some market to move him. He can still play. This deal isn't super long and he has a 10 team list in his NMC/NTC. His injury probably hurt this value, but I think his play this season has restored most of that at this point. I wonder if Buffalo might be interested...not sure they are sold on winning for real with the goalies they have. San Jose might be interested since their goalies kinda have been bad, but you'd probably have to take Jones in return and he has a long deal. Similar situation in Winnipeg with their #1 guy signed long term but struggling. Flames would make some sense. Hurricanes are inconsistent in goal, so who knows. They might be sick of trading with Stan. Talbot is falling out of favor with the Oilers but their cap is tight. Florida is a real possibility depending on Luongo who is nearing 40. Islanders....maybe... Philly might, they go through goalies like the average teen girl does outfits.

I am confused why people think AA is only worth a 3rd round pick? Anisimov is a very solid 2 way 2/3 center with some goal scoring touch around the net. The chance that a late 1st round pick let alone a 3rd round pick turns in to AA in a few years is low, so I dont understand how those assets are equivalent value.

The hawks gave up a 1st and a prospect for Vermette in 2015, and I think that’s what they should expect in return for Anisimov. Aren’t they a very similarly valued asset, with Vermette being a better FO man?

I'd agree with you JL about Kane/Toews. They are vets you keep. Both guys are still the two that make this team go.

To me, while depth is not what it was up front, it is still the D that is the big let down.

Keith can still play if he has a decent partner, but his age makes him someone you are okay to move IMO. What I wonder about with moving him, will his contract be the issue for the Hawks. If they deal him and he decides to retire, they are on the hook for the penalties. I know he could end up like most of the other players and find a way on LTIR, but I think that really would be up to Keith and his new team at that point. There is a good chance the Hawks keep him and he retires (LTIR) as a Hawks at some point. I still think the Hawks will need to slot him as the #3 soon and find two guys who can be the new #1 and #2 dmen. Keith has a NMC forever in his deal, so really he is in the driver's seat.


Seabrook, I think way more likely they would move him. His contract is a problem and his skating, defending and handling the puck under pressure are suspect. I was hoping he would be traded back when he was nearing UFA status, but here we are. If Stan can find a trade where we don't get screwed to move him, they should do it. Even if you lose the trade a bit, you free up cash and can move on with another player. Seabrook has full NMC for a long time, so it just might not happen.

Crawford is a tough one, but I think there will be some market to move him. He can still play. This deal isn't super long and he has a 10 team list in his NMC/NTC. His injury probably hurt this value, but I think his play this season has restored most of that at this point. I wonder if Buffalo might be interested...not sure they are sold on winning for real with the goalies they have. San Jose might be interested since their goalies kinda have been bad, but you'd probably have to take Jones in return and he has a long deal. Similar situation in Winnipeg with their #1 guy signed long term but struggling. Flames would make some sense. Hurricanes are inconsistent in goal, so who knows. They might be sick of trading with Stan. Talbot is falling out of favor with the Oilers but their cap is tight. Florida is a real possibility depending on Luongo who is nearing 40. Islanders....maybe... Philly might, they go through goalies like the average teen girl does outfits.
- breadbag

I know Buffalo probably isn't looking for a goalie, they like what Hutton's done so far and Ullmark seems to be their future. Hellebyuck in WPG is going to be fine. San Jose I could maybe see it, because they are in Win Now mode.
Flames, Flyers, Hurricanes all just need a legitimate NHL goalie, and Crawford fits that bill.

I know Buffalo probably isn't looking for a goalie, they like what Hutton's done so far and Ullmark seems to be their future. Hellebyuck in WPG is going to be fine. San Jose I could maybe see it, because they are in Win Now mode.
Flames, Flyers, Hurricanes all just need a legitimate NHL goalie, and Crawford fits that bill.
- ObeseOprah

PHI and STL need goalies big time and for a couple years now.

Have you noticed how Pat and Eddie are also calling this out and putting individuals on blast? Eddie had to choose "risk/reward" very carefully for Gustafson. He's such a liability on D it's ridiculous.

Does anyone think Pat and Eddie will get a "talking-to" about being too candid? Their criticism of the personnel moves, line combos, everything post-Q is actually pretty honest and unlike something you'd get on a White Sox (looking at you Hawk!) broadcast.
- phantasmo

When they begin to call out Seabs/Keith/Toews and Kane
then they just might be worth listening to.

Just because Rocky signed the CBA doesn't mean he is 100% for it. Have you ever been a part of a jury?
- powerenforcer

Yes, I have been a member of a jury- a gangbanger murder trial at 26th and California about 25 years ago. It was a real eye opener and I understand what you're saying, but honestly, I don't think Rocky minds having an upper limit on his GM's spending. They've played the salary cap game very well, built a strong brand, are profitable and have won it all 3 times. I think it's a bit naive to believe he'd just give Stan a blank check without an external cap, but what do I know.

I know Buffalo probably isn't looking for a goalie, they like what Hutton's done so far and Ullmark seems to be their future. Hellebyuck in WPG is going to be fine. San Jose I could maybe see it, because they are in Win Now mode.
Flames, Flyers, Hurricanes all just need a legitimate NHL goalie, and Crawford fits that bill.
- ObeseOprah

Do you think Buffalo looks at their goalie situation and thinks that can win them a cup if they get in? Hutton has never won a playoff series and is what he is. A serviceable 33 year old goalie that isn't a #1. Ulmark may be the future, but Crawford isn't signed for that long. I just think they might want to go all in.

Do you think Buffalo looks at their goalie situation and thinks that can win them a cup if they get in? Hutton has never won a playoff series and is what he is. A serviceable 33 year old goalie that isn't a #1. Ulmark may be the future, but Crawford isn't signed for that long. I just think they might want to go all in.
- breadbag

Do the Hawks take San Jose's first for Crow? i think they would especially if they could get a NHL ready d prospect like Guhle/McCabe with it

You should try watching a hockey game and learning about the sport and other teams numb nuts. You're the biggest joke on here
- GPHawksfan

I think that he's just a teenage kid, maybe started watching hockey a couple of years ago. Just ignore his trade proposals like you would ignore a troll from Nashville or St. Louis.

Potash posted this and I found it quite interesting. He's been a big opponent of the Q firing/JC hiring, but seems the record of mid season replacements has been a 60/40 proposition, even for those, like Sullivan, that everyone points to as prime examples of why you would want to make a change.



I've admittedly become more skeptical after initially being a big fan of JC as the replacement. I liked what I'd heard about his development chops and how the players spoke of him. I liked his positive energy. I liked that he was going to erase the "country club" arrogance and how he seemed to recognize this team would need more practices together to make it work with all the new guys. Thought he would be perfect for a young, developing team. What the effect has been on the vets and watching him coaching them on the bench makes me wonder if it was a bridge too far, at least for now.
- pdx2ord

The timing of it was completely insane he should've
been w/the team from day one but Sb and mcd needed
cover to fire Q hence the circus

I wouldn't say it's asinine, teams that are looking to make a run and tryingmto trade to shore up have less advantage and get fleeced. Saad for laine isn't a bad offer it's a starting piece. What's your solution to improve this team
- Taylorst1

😂🤣😂
Wow. Just wow. I can’t believe you are actually being serious about Laine! Trying to shore up? What exactly is WPG shoring up with this trade? They degrade their scoring by getting Saad in place of Laine. Did you just start watching hockey or something? Cause I’m really starting to think the answer is yes.

I am confused why people think AA is only worth a 3rd round pick? Anisimov is a very solid 2 way 2/3 center with some goal scoring touch around the net. The chance that a late 1st round pick let alone a 3rd round pick turns in to AA in a few years is low, so I dont understand how those assets are equivalent value.

The hawks gave up a 1st and a prospect for Vermette in 2015, and I think that’s what they should expect in return for Anisimov. Aren’t they a very similarly valued asset, with Vermette being a better FO man?
- LaheysBRandy

Good point. I think that they should hold on to Anisimov until the TDL and see if they can get an over payment from a team desperate for depth going into the playoffs.

Laine is a generational (as in, once in a generational talent) goal scoring machine and is a piece that the Jets are going to be building around for the next 10-13 years, Saad is a nice player. Your trade proposals are absolutely preposterous
- Hossa1881

McDavid, Mathews, Laine, Dahlin - that’s four generational players - and that’s only from the last four drafts.

I think we need a new term.

The timing of it was completely insane he should've
been w/the team from day one but Sb and mcd needed
cover to fire Q hence the circus
- gazza53

All things considered, would have been better to let Q just finish the season. This early hook just made things worse. JC is in an impossible spot with this awful roster and even worse GM.

Crawford is a tough one, but I think there will be some market to move him. He can still play. This deal isn't super long and he has a 10 team list in his NMC/NTC. His injury probably hurt this value, but I think his play this season has restored most of that at this point. I wonder if Buffalo might be interested...not sure they are sold on winning for real with the goalies they have. San Jose might be interested since their goalies kinda have been bad, but you'd probably have to take Jones in return and he has a long deal. Similar situation in Winnipeg with their #1 guy signed long term but struggling. Flames would make some sense. Hurricanes are inconsistent in goal, so who knows. They might be sick of trading with Stan. Talbot is falling out of favor with the Oilers but their cap is tight. Florida is a real possibility depending on Luongo who is nearing 40. Islanders....maybe... Philly might, they go through goalies like the average teen girl does outfits.
- breadbag

Philly has plenty of talent on their NHL roster and a well stocked farm system. What they don't have is a real NHL goaltender and won't make the playoffs this year unless they can acquire one soon.

They like trading with LA - Jonathan Quick is a possibility. CC wouldn't be a surprise either if Q gets hired there.

I don't see how they trade Seabrook. Not with 5 more years and a $6.875 mill annual cap hit. If they do, it means they get a bad contract coming back, or they have to retain half his salary. I really don't know how much he has declined, because he's been babysitting AHL quality defensemen for quite some time. The possibility of hidden value waiting to be unlocked in the right situation is the real intangible in the Hawks' favor in a trade negotiation.

Keith is a relatively cost controlled player. I'm sure he can be moved for a decent return, not that that's what I want, but it might be what he wants, given the frustration he's shown lately.

Crawford is probably a year away from being traded, in other words it happens in the final year of his contract at the trade deadline, as someone already suggested. All the dissection of that goal he gave up in Anaheim, if he's afraid of a puck to the mask, think back to when Shea Weber fired one at max velocity right into his mask.

Kruger and Kunitz come off the books this summer, as do Ward, Martinsen and Rutta. Obviously these are all deadline deals this year if it's even possible. I think we all know this, no point in belaboring it more than we already have.

The other duh is trading Manning. He might be buried in Rockford before the contract is over. I get that they needed a place holder so the kids could develop, but man, the interim sure is painful. I ultimately see Gus as a 6th D playing very sheltered minutes. Unless they convert him to a forward already.

I want to think Anisimov is more valuable than a 3rd round pick coming back.

I hope that fills a lot of posters' bingo cards, anyway.

You should try watching a hockey game and learning about the sport and other teams numb nuts. You're the biggest joke on here
- GPHawksfan

👍🏻

Who the F proposed the Hawks go after Kessell and can someone get that poster intervention for crack abuse?

Hawks have no business going after players like that, period. The era is over, time to pull the band-aid off quickly. Crawford and Keith should be moved as they have some value left. Seabrook is unmovable, but you try to move him, maybe retain salary. Anisimov should be moved, best he'll get is a middle round pick.

I figure Keith, Crow and AA should get the Hawks 4-6 good prospects, possibly a first round pick or two in the mix.

I also think it's serious times to consider 19 and 88. They are both in their prime, but by the time the team has a healthy stock of talent against those two will be washed up. This team is lightyears from being an upper echelon team again.

That all said I don't want ANY of the above done if GM Howdy Doody is making the decisions.

Bigger picture - the defence corps is probably the most important part of any NHL team. Who the hell is coaching this group now - JC, Barry Smith or more likely nobody? Dineen and Mike Kitchen must be laughing their asses off watching this on ice nonsense. Gus wouldnt get away with what he does out there on any other team in this league.

Please just bring in somebody like Larry Robinson or John Paddock.
- RickJ

Pretty sure Gus was playing big minutes for Q this year.

Dineen of the powerless powerplay Dineen?

I wouldn't say it's asinine, teams that are looking to make a run and tryingmto trade to shore up have less advantage and get fleeced. Saad for laine isn't a bad offer it's a starting piece. What's your solution to improve this team
- Taylorst1

Ok fine...
But WHY ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH would Winnipeg trade Laine for Saad.
I would take the deal in a second because we would be trade raping Winnipeg!
I live in Winnipeg and Liane is slowly if not already achieving god like status.
Personally I feel he is a one trick pony but he fills seats
If Winnipeg made this trade...there would be rioting down Portage Ave lmao
I would do the Trouba for Keith from Winnipeg's perspective.
Trouba does not want to be here and it shows imo.
I think Keith provides a PP QB and would help Morrisey faster become the great player I feel he will be.
I feel a change of scenery would do Trouba a great service.
Personally...I would trade Kane for some young talent/picks and give him a chance to not end his career with a losing team.
Same with Toews.
They served the Hawks well....let them move. on.
For who...no idea.