The sun will come out!!

Looking forward to the new and improved Hawks!
- Hawkster

Winning fills seats. Work on that.
- Return of the Roar

I thought development fills seats?

I thought development fills seats?
- PatShart

Totally.

I think Bowman believes the league is going in a certain direction (and he's right in some respects) and so he's trying to build/shape a team to the style he thinks it's headed - and he's dismantled and started trying to build way too fast.

The big tells to me are him constantly bringing in small/underdeveloped guys - especially little puck-moving Defensemen (which drives me insane). This team is dwarfed by everyone. They have two guys with some weight/grit to them: Hayden and Martinsen.

I think another indicator is giving JC the job. He checks all the boxes of where Bowman thinks the game is going: young, perceived 'outside the box' guy, etc., etc. But the reality is that he really has no experience and doesn't belong in that role right now (IMO).
- Hank3Henshaw

Speaking of, he made the 40-under-40 in the NHL list compiled by The Athletic

https://theathletic.com/6...-shaping-the-nhls-future/

Totally.

I think Bowman believes the league is going in a certain direction (and he's right in some respects) and so he's trying to build/shape a team to the style he thinks it's headed - and he's dismantled and started trying to build way too fast.

The big tells to me are him constantly bringing in small/underdeveloped guys - especially little puck-moving Defensemen (which drives me insane). This team is dwarfed by everyone. They have two guys with some weight/grit to them: Hayden and Martinsen.

I think another indicator is giving JC the job. He checks all the boxes of where Bowman thinks the game is going: young, perceived 'outside the box' guy, etc., etc. But the reality is that he really has no experience and doesn't belong in that role right now (IMO).
- Hank3Henshaw

Yeah, I think he's a big picture guy too, trying to think ahead. But he's building towards a one-dimensional side of the game, which you alluded to. Small, skilled, and puck-moving. It's nice to have, but they need protection and need to be balanced out.

Speaking of, he made the 40-under-40 in the NHL list compiled by The Athletic

https://theathletic.com/6...-shaping-the-nhls-future/
- pdx2ord

Show me one part of our culture "leadership" by millennials has made better.

Sorry, showing my age and bitterness.

Blackhawks prospect Artur Kayumov hits an opponent in the head, punches the ref and then fires up the crowd 😱😬

https://twitter.com/ginoh.../1071129060472905728?s=21
- walleyeb1

I can't see the whole picture, but it didn't look like he was aiming for the ref, but the guy the ref was holding back. The first hit was bad, but I hear Edzo all the time say keep your head up.

Yeah, I think he's a big picture guy too, trying to think ahead. But he's building towards a one-dimensional side of the game, which you alluded to. Small, skilled, and puck-moving. It's nice to have, but they need protection and need to be balanced out.
- I Am The Breadman

Yes. There's no balance here. There's also no discipline.

Guys don't know their roles and most of these guys are all built for the same role.

Makes no sense

Blackhawks prospect Artur Kayumov hits an opponent in the head, punches the ref and then fires up the crowd 😱😬

https://twitter.com/ginoh.../1071129060472905728?s=21
- walleyeb1

In that league, I think that is how you cancel out a suspension. You punch the ref that gave you the original penalty and then you are good to go.

Yes. There's no balance here. There's also no discipline.

Guys don't know their roles and most of these guys are all built for the same role.

Makes no sense
- Hank3Henshaw

The line juggling has been turned up to 11.
-This is Spinal Tap.

You are right. I think we are still seeing that the difference between winning and losing night after night can be the small things. One or two plays here and there can make a huge difference because they add up.

The one thing for a lot of teams that have gotten good recently, many of them have build up a lot of good young players over time and the Hawks did a bit of the opposite up until recently, with shipping out young guys to try to win now. IMO, that might mean a little more time to right the ship, but it's doable.
- breadbag

The NHL is still a 1 goal league. It may now be a 4-3 or 5-4 league instead of the 3-2 of years past. The last 2 nights prove that out. Hawks played better (NOT great). After the 1st 10 minutes in ANA, pretty good. And they hit 4 posts. Win that one and maybe a little confidence improves last night’s result.

Don’t get me wrong, there are still major roster upgrades to be made, but a team with 88, 19 & 2 is much closer than a team with no future HOFers on it. A impact player from next summer’s draft, a key FA signing, a couple of the young D take the next step, one of the Rockford forwards moves up, DCat & Strome take the next step, and they become part of the playoff mix.

Big deal he's a point a game player. He's still not worth the contract. You can act as tough as you want but it doesn't change the fact he isn't worth it and you're not very smart.
- GPHawksfan

Big deal he's a point per game player his whole career? What else could he possibly do to earn his $10.5 a year in your eyes? I honestly want to know.

On what planet is Patrick Kane not worth his cap hit.

Tavares makes more: is not a point per game player over his career. He's barely PPG on the stacked Leafs.

What more do you want from Kane? More hits? More blocked shots? Faceoffs?

The guy has won us 3 Cups, one with the Game Winner. And he's won the Conn Smythe. Guy has literally done it all. If the league MVP isn't worth $10.5, then I don't know who is.

JL - thanks for everything you do, great Job!!

if StanBo gets launched this summer, do you think JC is launched also if this nightmare continues thru end of the season?

JL - thanks for everything you do, great Job!!

if StanBo gets launched this summer, do you think JC is launched also if this nightmare continues thru end of the season?
- glennjpawlak22

Thanks Glenn.

That would be up to the new GM. Usually it's there call as to who the coach is.

We will have to wait that one out on all fronts.

I stand corrected on what I said about Keith not saying he thinks they can turn it around. He did after the game last night. Glad to hear him say that.

https://www.nhl.com/black...as/t-277437096/c-63736803

The line juggling has been turned up to 11.
-This is Spinal Tap.
- I Am The Breadman

Hahahaha.

It's true! Like I was saying before, I think that's 100% desperation from JC trying to get some kind of spark going.

But I think it's more of a negative. As hard as it might be, he needs to construct his lines and let them be for a few games. Guys need to be able to gel and get into a groove.

You know how most teams have set lines and if a guy is playing really well, he's "promoted" to get a look on a higher line? Or if a guy isn't producing, they bump him down to send a message or see how he does down there? The Hawks just move these guys all over the place night-in, night-out.

Everyone is lost.

I think stable lines give structure, discipline and a sense of purpose.

Just my opinion.

Big deal he's a point per game player his whole career? What else could he possibly do to earn his $10.5 a year in your eyes? I honestly want to know.

On what planet is Patrick Kane not worth his cap hit.

Tavares makes more: is not a point per game player over his career. He's barely PPG on the stacked Leafs.

What more do you want from Kane? More hits? More blocked shots? Faceoffs?

The guy has won us 3 Cups, one with the Game Winner. And he's won the Conn Smythe. Guy has literally done it all. If the league MVP isn't worth $10.5, then I don't know who is.
- ObeseOprah

Have you noticed how Pat and Eddie are also calling this out and putting individuals on blast? Eddie had to choose "risk/reward" very carefully for Gustafson. He's such a liability on D it's ridiculous.

Does anyone think Pat and Eddie will get a "talking-to" about being too candid? Their criticism of the personnel moves, line combos, everything post-Q is actually pretty honest and unlike something you'd get on a White Sox (looking at you Hawk!) broadcast.
- phantasmo

I’m of the opinion they were told to be more critical. As tightly as the hawks’ organization controls their brand and image, I can’t imagine that they would get through more than one broadcast without being told to stop if they had gone off on their own and decided they needed to be more critical. Think direction is coming from above and they are just carrying out orders.

JL - thanks for everything you do, great Job!!

if StanBo gets launched this summer, do you think JC is launched also if this nightmare continues thru end of the season?
- glennjpawlak22

I wouldn't mind him back in Rockford.

Hahahaha.

It's true! Like I was saying before, I think that's 100% desperation from JC trying to get some kind of spark going.

But I think it's more of a negative. As hard as it might be, he needs to construct his lines and let them be for a few games. Guys need to be able to gel and get into a groove.

You know how most teams have set lines and if a guy is playing really well, he's "promoted" to get a look on a higher line? Or if a guy isn't producing, they bump him down to send a message or see how he does down there? The Hawks just move these guys all over the place night-in, night-out.

Everyone is lost.

I think stable lines give structure, discipline and a sense of purpose.

Just my opinion.
- Hank3Henshaw

Agreed, H3H. A lot of the game is chemistry ... and scoring more goals, haha.

Show me one part of our culture "leadership" by millennials has made better.

Sorry, showing my age and bitterness.
- Return of the Roar

I love baseless Millennial blame game and resentment!

https://www.vox.com/2017/...millennials-congress-debt

"The boomers, according to Gibney, have committed “generational plunder,” pillaging the nation’s economy, repeatedly cutting their own taxes, financing two wars with deficits, ignoring climate change, presiding over the death of America’s manufacturing core, and leaving future generations to clean up the mess they created."

https://www.npr.org/2018/...llennials-and-the-economy

"Healthcare, housing and education are more than five times more expensive than they were for our parents. There are fewer steady jobs. Wages have stagnated since the 1970s. "

Also, there is no "Planet B". The destruction of the Earth via Fossil Fuel consumption is the single greatest crime of the Baby Boomer Generation. Let's not forget the Drug War on Marijuana (with alcohol being statistically and scientifically proven to be deadly and more hazardous for your health). This had led to the highest incarceration rates (primarily of minorities) for small possession of cannabis.


https://www.marketwatch.c...climate-change-2016-12-20

"“Without substantial and sustained global mitigation and regional adaptation efforts, climate change is expected to cause growing losses to American infrastructure and property and impede the rate of economic growth over this century,”

But blaming those entitled youngsters is much easier, right?

Yeah, I think he's a big picture guy too, trying to think ahead. But he's building towards a one-dimensional side of the game, which you alluded to. Small, skilled, and puck-moving. It's nice to have, but they need protection and need to be balanced out.
- I Am The Breadman

U can't teach skill ,I think Stan believes, I hope anyway that size toughness can be acquired cheaper for some of the prospects that don't fit . The team seems to me anyway to be playing a little tougher lately under JC ,or that could just be frustration .

The NHL is still a 1 goal league. It may now be a 4-3 or 5-4 league instead of the 3-2 of years past. The last 2 nights prove that out. Hawks played better (NOT great). After the 1st 10 minutes in ANA, pretty good. And they hit 4 posts. Win that one and maybe a little confidence improves last night’s result.

Don’t get me wrong, there are still major roster upgrades to be made, but a team with 88, 19 & 2 is much closer than a team with no future HOFers on it. A impact player from next summer’s draft, a key FA signing, a couple of the young D take the next step, one of the Rockford forwards moves up, DCat & Strome take the next step, and they become part of the playoff mix.
- scottak

I liked the Hawks willingness to battle for the puck against ANA. It was something I took note of as they were disrupting and fighting for the puck more than typical lately.

Hahahaha.

It's true! Like I was saying before, I think that's 100% desperation from JC trying to get some kind of spark going.

But I think it's more of a negative. As hard as it might be, he needs to construct his lines and let them be for a few games. Guys need to be able to gel and get into a groove.

You know how most teams have set lines and if a guy is playing really well, he's "promoted" to get a look on a higher line? Or if a guy isn't producing, they bump him down to send a message or see how he does down there? The Hawks just move these guys all over the place night-in, night-out.

Everyone is lost.

I think stable lines give structure, discipline and a sense of purpose.

Just my opinion.
- Hank3Henshaw

Lol said it a bunch of times already. Not lost, not for lack of effort they are just bad.

U can't teach skill ,I think Stan believes, I hope anyway that size toughness can be acquired cheaper for some of the prospects that don't fit . The team seems to me anyway to be playing a little tougher lately under JC ,or that could just be frustration .
- oldduffman

I get what you're saying, Duffy. They are tougher, just not in the first period. These past couple games have been close, but too little and too late.