He's heading that way. If it happens, I believe it will be in the offseason.

Colliton was his hire as well and McDonough will be evaluating him on that.

Obviously, it's more on the construction of the team, but who knows what's happening behind the scenes. If Colliton can't show improvement by the end of the year, McD could use that as ammo to fire Stan.
- Justin Lowe

Considering your points then bowman should not be able to make any more trades or personnel decisions IMO.

Keith you definitely should want to keep. And hes right - this isnt a developmental league - which everyone wants to whine and cry saying "well Keith doesn't want to help the young players" wwahhhhhh

Hes right. Gus is 27. Ruuta 27. Murphy like 25 but in the league awhile now. At some point they have to quit making the same mistakes over and over and over and over...and claim "they're developing, it's ok to suck and lose".

I'd rather have a guy like Keith that hates to lose and demand being more competitive versus a mouth breather like Gus just taking his 3rd shift and being patted on the back saying, nice hustle.

I'd rather Joki play with/watch Keith versus the developmental projects.
- PatShart

Exactly - like Keith at the point on the PP, shoot right into a shinpad, and the puck exits the zone. Play is dead.

Build around Toews (who I thought was a beast last night), Kane, Saad, Joki, Strome, Debrincat, Boquist, Mitchell, Kampf.

Add: Hughes/Kappo/Cozens/Podkolzin/Dach/Broberg who will likely make the team out of camp

Add: Panarin + Tyler Myers


Addition by Subtraction: Kruger, Kunitz, Rutta, Gustafson, Seabrook, Ward

Development/Improvement From: Perlini, Murphy, Forsling, Kahun, Sikura,
- EnzoD

The farther we sink this year, the higher we will fly at some point.

We're in a weird position with the draft. I always say 'pick best player available', and never draft for need. But what if we draft for 'non-need'. As in, we really don't need more defensive prospects from the first round.

We have Boqvist, Jokiharju, and Beaudin all from the first round. Add in Mitchell, Krys, Hillman, Dalstrom, etc. and we've got a solid crop.

Do we pick the 7th best player if we're at number 6 and Broberg is still available? I feel like the team desperately needs 'the kid' at forward, whoever it will become. Strome and Debrincat certainly look like solid players so far, but I don't think they're the Conn Smythe type of guys that we'll need when the time comes. We need the next Toews or Kane, not the next Saad or Sharp. Who knows, hopefully by the end of this season we have an additional 1st round pick or 2.

OK enough with all the insults being thrown around, if everyone reacquaints themselves with the CoC especially rule #6; I'd appreciate it.
6. Respect your fellow HockeyBuzzers
No name calling. And you’re not being clever if you say “any moron knows” or “only an idiot doesn’t understand.” You’re being disrespectful. Talk more about hockey and less about each other. Although playful banter is allowed, that does not mean anything goes, if the banter breaks any part of the code of conduct, it isn’t playful and it is not acceptable. When “Player X stinks" turns into "You stink" you've crossed the line. And yes, the Moderators decide where the line is.

BTW I'm one of the guys that decide where the line is and there are quite a few posts in this blog that IMO have crossed that line.

Warning sent, Justin any further action required, you know where I am.

Well it sure has been tough sledding so far this year . Is it time to throw in the towel ,maybe . I would not make any rash moves right now . I liked the fight last night .I can't believe how this team comes out not ready for games , it is so predictable .
I was very happy to see JC hired ,but not allowing him his own assistants seems to be a management decision ,and not a good one .
I hate to throw in the towel this early and maybe when Murphy get's back the D will stabilize a bit . Don't know what to hope for up front ,I believe playing 29 and 40 regularly is a start , Martinsen has been my favorite player of late . Manning for all his faults, he is the only one willing to go .
If things don't work themselves out in the next month or two it will be time to be a seller . AA should bring in more then a 3rd . Ward late pick . Kunitz late pick . Crow maybe a 1st or second and a prospect .Keith should be good for a 1st and prospect . I was in Stan corner ,but I am not sure I want him starting a rebuild ..
So we bring in a couple former players on the tougher side to start the rebuild ,old time hockey is back in town ...
GO HAWKS !!!!!!!

Considering your points then bowman should not be able to make any more trades or personnel decisions IMO.
- Scott1977

Agreed.

They do still have faith in him to "rebuild" this team apparently.

If/when that changes... he will be out ASAP as this is a very pivotal time for this organization to get back to contention.

OK enough with all the insults being thrown around, if everyone reacquaints themselves with the CoC especially rule #6; I'd appreciate it.
6. Respect your fellow HockeyBuzzers
No name calling. And you’re not being clever if you say “any moron knows” or “only an idiot doesn’t understand.” You’re being disrespectful. Talk more about hockey and less about each other. Although playful banter is allowed, that does not mean anything goes, if the banter breaks any part of the code of conduct, it isn’t playful and it is not acceptable. When “Player X stinks" turns into "You stink" you've crossed the line. And yes, the Moderators decide where the line is.

BTW I'm one of the guys that decide where the line is and there are quite a few posts in this blog that IMO have crossed that line.

Warning sent, Justin any further action required, you know where I am.
- Makita

Thanks Makita.

You heard him.

The Hawks are terrible guys... we have enough problems on our hands, no need to name calling and treating people poorly.

OK enough with all the insults being thrown around, if everyone reacquaints themselves with the CoC especially rule #6; I'd appreciate it.
6. Respect your fellow HockeyBuzzers
No name calling. And you’re not being clever if you say “any moron knows” or “only an idiot doesn’t understand.” You’re being disrespectful. Talk more about hockey and less about each other. Although playful banter is allowed, that does not mean anything goes, if the banter breaks any part of the code of conduct, it isn’t playful and it is not acceptable. When “Player X stinks" turns into "You stink" you've crossed the line. And yes, the Moderators decide where the line is.

BTW I'm one of the guys that decide where the line is and there are quite a few posts in this blog that IMO have crossed that line.

Warning sent, Justin any further action required, you know where I am.
- Makita

Thank you.

Justin you may want to post this at the bottom (or top each time you make a new entry as a reminder to the dolts.)

[quote=-Doh-]Thank you.

Justin you may want to post this at the bottom (or top) each time you make a new entry as a reminder to the dolts.

Manning and Rutta and ??? being shopped

Mark Lazerus
@MarkLazerus

Backing up Scott here, I heard the Blackhawks sent out a league-wide email in the past day or so, looking to undo a couple of recent mistakes. Scott has the details in here:

https://theathletic.com/7...fensemen-to-create-space/
- pdx2ord

Sounds good to me, picks or ahl guys, fine by me. Thanks for the post, pd.

One thing I'd like to point out to everyone:
Things change in the NHL very quickly, often from one season to the next.

Colorado went from historically bad to the playoffs in one season, with the same coach and mostly the same roster.

Buffalo went from another last place finish to looking like a playoff contender this season.

Ottawa went from one goal away from the Cup Finals to an absolute dumpster fire. And this was AFTER they added a good player in Duchene.

Tampa, Toronto, and Winnipeg have all missed the playoffs in the last 3 years. These three are in most people's top 5 teams in the league.

A #1 or #2 pick in a good draft can turn things around quickly. Matthews, Laine, Hischier, Dahlin...

A year from now we could be looking back on this period as the best thing that could happen to the team. A terrible start to a season that forces us to realize our need to rebuild.
- ObeseOprah

You are right. I think we are still seeing that the difference between winning and losing night after night can be the small things. One or two plays here and there can make a huge difference because they add up.

The one thing for a lot of teams that have gotten good recently, many of them have build up a lot of good young players over time and the Hawks did a bit of the opposite up until recently, with shipping out young guys to try to win now. IMO, that might mean a little more time to right the ship, but it's doable.

Not a bad offer from a Hawks perspective maybe. A laughable offer from a Jets point of view. You're talking trading a 26 y.o., 6'1, 206 lb Saad who has 133 goals in 7 1/4 seasons for Laine at 20 y.o, 6'5, 206 lb who has 101 goals in 2 1/4 seasons.

That makes no sense.
- Rota's Rooter

Which is why we all should continue to talk about it in another 100+ ridiculous posts! Jeez!

Agreed.

They do still have faith in him to "rebuild" this team apparently.

If/when that changes... he will be out ASAP as this is a very pivotal time for this organization to get back to contention.
- Justin Lowe

JL, do you think Seabs, Crow, and Keith all get moved this year?
Best guess.

Well it sure has been tough sledding so far this year . Is it time to throw in the towel ,maybe . I would not make any rash moves right now . I liked the fight last night .I can't believe how this team comes out not ready for games , it is so predictable .
I was very happy to see JC hired ,but not allowing him his own assistants seems to be a management decision ,and not a good one .
I hate to throw in the towel this early and maybe when Murphy get's back the D will stabilize a bit . Don't know what to hope for up front ,I believe playing 29 and 40 regularly is a start , Martinsen has been my favorite player of late . Manning for all his faults, he is the only one willing to go .
If things don't work themselves out in the next month or two it will be time to be a seller . AA should bring in more then a 3rd . Ward late pick . Kunitz late pick . Crow maybe a 1st or second and a prospect .Keith should be good for a 1st and prospect . I was in Stan corner ,but I am not sure I want him starting a rebuild ..
So we bring in a couple former players on the tougher side to start the rebuild ,old time hockey is back in town ...
GO HAWKS !!!!!!!
- oldduffman

Ward and Kunitz have 35+ NMC deals. Not moveable except to the press box.

Agree on Martinsen. I think he, Kahun and Kampf are your future fourth line. Kampf has speed, Kahun has hands and speed and Martinsen has size and vision of the play. The team needs to have higher expectations for personnel in the top nine. NONE of these young forwards except for Strome have top nine potential.

I like Manning too. His challenge is the same as many others - trying to do too much to cover for those who don't/can't do enough. In the right role, with the right partner, with the right other five D guys, he fits well.

The Hawks are where they are now because of the McD/SB management decisions. Why would they be entrusted to build the next generation? Honestly, they didn't even truly build the first one. So now they have ruined the culture, the roster, and the pipeline. Cya.....

Let's talk, my friend. Haha.

Who would you move for Saad?
- Hank3Henshaw

Eichel (If we don't trade Saad for Laine)!

Exactly - like Keith at the point on the PP, shoot right into a shinpad, and the puck exits the zone. Play is dead.
- powerenforcer

Yes...every single shot hes ever taken hits a shin pad. And no other defenceman in the leagues shots ever hit shin pads. Ever.

Never mind then. Keith sucks. Took him to the age of 35, but people finally can start bagging on him/his play because hes been the best in the game for a very long time...but now finally as he slows down, people can come out of the woodwork to whine. So have at it, you win.

#youtoo#yourtime

OK enough with all the insults being thrown around, if everyone reacquaints themselves with the CoC especially rule #6; I'd appreciate it.
6. Respect your fellow HockeyBuzzers
No name calling. And you’re not being clever if you say “any moron knows” or “only an idiot doesn’t understand.” You’re being disrespectful. Talk more about hockey and less about each other. Although playful banter is allowed, that does not mean anything goes, if the banter breaks any part of the code of conduct, it isn’t playful and it is not acceptable. When “Player X stinks" turns into "You stink" you've crossed the line. And yes, the Moderators decide where the line is.

BTW I'm one of the guys that decide where the line is and there are quite a few posts in this blog that IMO have crossed that line.

Warning sent, Justin any further action required, you know where I am.
- Makita

This is what happens when your team is going into tank mode. We're not as bad as the Oiler board during the Dallas Eakins days; nothing but GIFs and personal attacks, but we might get there in a couple of weeks.

I think there would be some interest in DK, despite his decline. His salary is reasonable too. With #7, we would probably have to take some salary back. Don't know who would want him the way he's been playing ( look no further than Vegas'4th goal last night). Hawks could keep him through next year and expose him in the Seattle expansion draft.

Both Crow and AA may generate some interest and I think you do that this year if able to.

One of the big things too is Stan has to have a different mindset about the players he covets. Small, mobile defensemen who can't keep the opponent from camping out in front of Crow are NOT what he needs. Same for aging ex hawks that are past their prime (Kruger, Sharp, Ladd-sort of).
- Nmbr1

Nope, they can't, as Seabs has a NMC.

Thank you.

Justin you may want to post this at the bottom (or top each time you make a new entry as a reminder to the dolts.)
- -Doh-

Good idea. I will be sure to post this more frequently.

Nope, they can't, as Seabs has a NMC.
- BMWChiFan

Seabrook could be asked to waive it for the expansion. It is possible.

Nope, they can't, as Seabs has a NMC.
- BMWChiFan

Wrong, they can, if he waives. As Mark Andre Fluery did.

Me too. Especially seeing how effective the Vegas 4th line is. The Hawks didn't have an answer for it, why not try to use their own with the same strategy.
- Justin Lowe

That would violate the organization's No Hit Rule!

There's no easy way to put it, but 7 is done, he wouldn't even make a decent 3rd pairing dman.

Gusto is bad

Rutta better 3rd pairing dman than 7

Maning just bad, if i could recognize it the first night he played then we are royally screwed that the front office of the Hawks thought he was a good signing and are still in charge of player personnel.

Joki and Forsling are the closest thing we have to top 4 dmen and they are still young and making mistakes which are age appropriate.

Hopefully they have 2 non compliance buy outs otherwise they'll never get out from under 7s contract

As i said earlier whoever thought signing Manning and trading for Murphy were good ideas, need to go

JL, do you think Seabs, Crow, and Keith all get moved this year?
Best guess.
- I Am The Breadman

Best guess? I would say only 1 of them.

* Seabs is going to be hard to move (not impossible though)

* Crawford has a NMC and has exercised it in the past + he may just want to stay in Chicago another couple years where he's comfy and then retire (sounds like he's contemplated that after the health issues)

* Keith could be moved but he might stay to help bring up the 4 Horsemen - Joki, Mitchell, Beaudin and Boqvist. That is if he is a team player and has the right attitude. I've wouldn't be shocked at the possibility of him saying "F it" soon and "suggests" to move to a team back out West

Seabrook could be asked to waive it for the expansion. It is possible.
- breadbag

Good to know.
He might do it for the team. The $ on his contract makes it unmoveable anyways and he knows it too.