BiggE
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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Thinking that Folin comes back off the shelf soon so Wilson can see him in game action too. - NC Flyers Fan
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ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: I like cold beverages, NJ Joined: 04.09.2008
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I agree. Stolarz is still very green. He's learning the NHL game on the fly. Weak goals suck, but at least I understand why his happen.
That said, I think he's still the best option for the Flyers right now. His game seems calm, and I see confidence building each game. - Scoob
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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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Nearly 30 games in, and I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I feel bad for Hakstol
He had no say whatsoever when it came to 2 of his assistants and his goalie coach and only limited input on the hiring of Knoblauch.
His GM did nothing to improve his options for goaltender in the offseason and also failed to provide him with a 3rd legit center.
Hard to see any coach being successful when you had to spend a significant part of the season with Cal Pickard as your top goalie and Jordan Weal your 3C
I have my doubts that Hakstol is the guy that can take this team to the next level, but he deserves the rest of the season to see what he can do. |
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What exactly is the current system? - nails
Dump the puck and send in one forechecker and hope. |
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AllInForFlyers
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Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks Joined: 03.18.2013
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No thanks - BiggE
Agreed -- and that's nothing against Folin. But you already have Gudas and MacDonald in the lineup as veterans, with MacDonald under contract for another season
If you're putting another defenseman in the lineup, that person should have the capability of helping the Flyers not just for this season, but for seasons to come
I want them to make the playoffs, as always. But they've not done themselves any favors in that regard and they have to make sure that they're not wasting any opportunities for development |
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BiggE
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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Everyone knows the Flyers are in on E.Kane and Buffy in terms of trades - xShoot4WarAmpsx
LOL, the never ending quest to get Buff some cheesesteaks! |
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No thanks - BiggE
Okay, just try to laugh about it later.
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AllInForFlyers
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Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks Joined: 03.18.2013
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Nearly 30 games in, and I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I feel bad for Hakstol
He had no say whatsoever when it came to 2 of his assistants and his goalie coach and only limited input on the hiring of Knoblauch.
His GM did nothing to improve his options for goaltender in the offseason and also failed to provide him with a 3rd legit center.
Hard to see any coach being successful when you had to spend a significant part of the season with Cal Pickard as your top goalie and Jordan Weal your 3C
I have my doubts that Hakstol is the guy that can take this team to the next level, but he deserves the rest of the season to see what he can do. - BiggE
People are gonna disagree with this, but I am on board -- at least get the guy another effing center. It was so obvious last night that they desperately need another one
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BiggE
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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People are gonna disagree with this, but I am on board -- at least get the guy another effing center. It was so obvious last night that they desperately need another one - AllInForFlyers
Yup, it’s a huge hole in the lineup right now |
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KINGKENZO
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Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people Joined: 01.10.2008
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At the same time though there are young Centers in the same position and excelling. I dont think his age should be any part of the problem. He is either a slow developer or a bust - xShoot4WarAmpsx
where are all of the 20 year old second line centers playing? |
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Yup, it’s a huge hole in the lineup right now - BiggE
I really hope the right fit is available for trade. At this point, Fletcher would have to be blind to ignore that sized hole. I can’t imagine it will take very many games for him to be “sure.”
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That is not how I see it, as you probably know by my posts. If I felt the pieces definitely fit together but were being used incorrectly, believe me, I would say it - NC Flyers Fan[shout it]. I think we have a lot of lovely pieces that just don’t fit well together. Say what you will but unless you expect the coach to morph those players shift by shift, coaching can’t take the largest chunk of blame.
I agree that we have 3 or 4 minimum players that don’t fit. Remember when Bobby abreau was putting up all those great numbers for the Phillies but the team wasn’t winning? As soon as we traded him we started winning. Great player, bad fit.
I absolutely think coaching solves the problem. Put the players that fit the system best. Unfortunately, the system our coach uses is more effective for heavy, grinder type of players and most of our players are smaller skilled players. Its why lavy was fired. His system requires defenseman to carry the puck out and we had mostly stationary space eaters on d. Lavi didn’t change so he got canned. If anyone can explain what berube was trying to do i am willing to listen because I had no idea what he was doing.
There is so much skill on this team yet hakstol continues to use a system that minimizes its effect. We need the puck away from the boards where we can stick handle, dangle and pass instead of sending Jordan weal and giroux into the corners to dig the puck out. That’s why hakstol play guys like lehtera an vandevelde so much, they are wall grinding knuckle drafters who stay along the wall where his system wants the puck.
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ggunky
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Location: I like cold beverages, NJ Joined: 04.09.2008
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Nearly 30 games in, and I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I feel bad for Hakstol
He had no say whatsoever when it came to 2 of his assistants and his goalie coach and only limited input on the hiring of Knoblauch.
His GM did nothing to improve his options for goaltender in the offseason and also failed to provide him with a 3rd legit center.
Hard to see any coach being successful when you had to spend a significant part of the season with Cal Pickard as your top goalie and Jordan Weal your 3C
I have my doubts that Hakstol is the guy that can take this team to the next level, but he deserves the rest of the season to see what he can do. - BiggE
I would call Chicago to see if what the asking price is for Anisimov.
He is signed through 20-21 for 4.5 Mil.
He could slot in at 3C.
Anisimov would allow Frost or Rubtsov or Vorobyev to slowly work into the NHL line up over the next couple of years.
Just spit-balling ideas here.
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hereticpride
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Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ Joined: 01.14.2011
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I would call Chicago to see if what the asking price is for Anisimov.
He is signed through 20-21 for 4.5 Mil.
He could slot in at 3C.
Anisimov would allow Frost or Rubtsov or Vorobyev to slowly work into the NHL line up over the next couple of years.
Just spit-balling ideas here. - ggunky
They really should be looking at a 2C. Patrick is in over his head right now. |
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Tfaehner
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Joined: 06.25.2012
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They really should be looking at a 2C. Patrick is in over his head right now. - hereticpride
2c are more expensive a strong 3c fringe 2c could be utilized as a 2a 2b with Patrick. I'm massively in favor of a guy like duchene but unwilling to give up assets in season for him. |
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J35Bacher
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 04.03.2014
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I would call Chicago to see if what the asking price is for Anisimov.
He is signed through 20-21 for 4.5 Mil.
He could slot in at 3C.
Anisimov would allow Frost or Rubtsov or Vorobyev to slowly work into the NHL line up over the next couple of years.
Just spit-balling ideas here. - ggunky
I would see about both Anisimov and Crawford. Crawford has one more year on his deal so you can also prepare for next year if Hart needs more time.
Anisimov could also slide to wing if someone else comes up ready too. |
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They really should be looking at a 2C. Patrick is in over his head right now. - hereticpride
Yes, I agree. With a fondness for Patrick, I say let’s let him develop at his own pace.
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LW2530
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Location: Anyone have some change?, FL Joined: 09.12.2006
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Nearly 30 games in, and I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I feel bad for Hakstol
He had no say whatsoever when it came to 2 of his assistants and his goalie coach and only limited input on the hiring of Knoblauch.
His GM did nothing to improve his options for goaltender in the offseason and also failed to provide him with a 3rd legit center.
Hard to see any coach being successful when you had to spend a significant part of the season with Cal Pickard as your top goalie and Jordan Weal your 3C
I have my doubts that Hakstol is the guy that can take this team to the next level, but he deserves the rest of the season to see what he can do. - BiggE
You would think he'd have negotiated the assistant coach situation with Ron from the get go. He held most of the cards at the time. Unless maybe it wasn't a big deal to Hak?
Don't think Hak makes it much past the new year at this rate. Corporate wants changes quick and he'll be sacrificed in a few weeks to buy some time on the trade front.
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SuperSchennBros
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Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot! Joined: 09.01.2012
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Kid scored two goals. Calm down. - Tomahawk
The kid joined the rush and pushed offense, which you don’t see Ghost do much of anymore. It’s not that he scored, it’s how he did it. |
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Internal option! I'm going to go out on a limb and say this isn't going to work.
Philadelphia Flyers
Verified account @NHLFlyers
OFFICIAL: The #Flyers have recalled forward Phil Varone from the @LVPhantoms. Varone is currently the Phantoms leading scorer (11g-17a) and was named @TheAHL MVP last season. |
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If hakstol coached the sixers his lineup would be:
PG: embiid
SG: Simmons
SF: Chandler
PF: reddik
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nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: this space for rent, PA Joined: 09.19.2006
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Varone called up.
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flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB Joined: 10.16.2008
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Internal option! I'm going to go out on a limb and say this isn't going to work.
Philadelphia Flyers
Verified account @NHLFlyers
OFFICIAL: The #Flyers have recalled forward Phil Varone from the @LVPhantoms. Varone is currently the Phantoms leading scorer (11g-17a) and was named @TheAHL MVP last season. - PLindbergh31
I think we should trade Sundin. |
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I agree that we have 3 or 4 minimum players that don’t fit. Remember when Bobby abreau was putting up all those great numbers for the Phillies but the team wasn’t winning? As soon as we traded him we started winning. Great player, bad fit.
I absolutely think coaching solves the problem. Put the players that fit the system best. Unfortunately, the system our coach uses is more effective for heavy, grinder type of players and most of our players are smaller skilled players. Its why lavy was fired. His system requires defenseman to carry the puck out and we had mostly stationary space eaters on d. Lavi didn’t change so he got canned. If anyone can explain what berube was trying to do i am willing to listen because I had no idea what he was doing.
There is so much skill on this team yet hakstol continues to use a system that minimizes its effect. We need the puck away from the boards where we can stick handle, dangle and pass instead of sending Jordan weal and giroux into the corners to dig the puck out. That’s why hakstol play guys like lehtera an vandevelde so much, they are wall grinding knuckle drafters who stay along the wall where his system wants the puck. - Shrike
In order of operations, I would like to see the players fit better first. As you say, it can make a big impact. Then, I feel we would have a clearer picture. I don’t see the system as stifling as you described.
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If hakstol coached the sixers his lineup would be:
PG: embiid
SG: Simmons
SF: Chandler
PF: reddik
C: Butler - Shrike
Where would Okafor, Noel, and Fultz play? Those top of the draft studs |
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