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dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Dec 5 @ 9:57 AM ET
Undeniable proof that the Flyers employ a shoot from the point perimeter system at 5 on 5.


- Feanor


Await the post saying "then explain the red blob in front of the net"
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 5 @ 9:57 AM ET
That's what was said about alignment at the BoG conference where they announced Seattle. It was a fun listen. They didn't mention changing playoffs

Tanner usually has his head in his posterior a lot but I guess he reported it correctly.

- dragonoffrost


In Tanner's defense, I suppose he's just blinded by brilliance that is greatest GM of all time, John Chayka and the guy who Bobby Orr wishes he could of been as good as, OEL.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 5 @ 9:58 AM ET
Await the post saying "then explain the red blob in front of the net"
- dragonoffrost


Someone stepped on a tick?
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 5 @ 9:58 AM ET
They should go to 1-8 playoffs in each conference with the division winners getting the top two seeds.
- Feanor


Right. That's (kind of) what I said when I mentioned that the NHL wouldn't go for no East/West. Top finisher in each division gets the 1-2 seed. Rank the rest by points. 1 plays 8, 2 plays 7, etc. Let 'er rip!
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Dec 5 @ 10:00 AM ET
Undeniable proof that the Flyers employ a shoot from the point perimeter system at 5 on 5.


- Feanor

Glad to see 10-15 outside the front of the net is ice cold, smh.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Dec 5 @ 10:01 AM ET
Undeniable proof that the Flyers employ a shoot from the point perimeter system at 5 on 5.


- Feanor




Unblocked shots.

Hmm

Seems to me this chart is more indicative of the team taking what the opponent is giving them.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 5 @ 10:02 AM ET
Someone stepped on a tick?
- BiggE


^^^
missed opportunity for dark humor
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Dec 5 @ 10:02 AM ET
Glad to see 10-15 outside the front of the net is ice cold, smh.
- ClaudeFather



I would think that is because it is in those areas where shots are most likely to be blocked or deflected.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 5 @ 10:03 AM ET
Undeniable proof that the Flyers employ a shoot from the point perimeter system at 5 on 5.


- Feanor


The only thing that proves is where the Flyers take their shots from. It does not in any way prove why they do.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 5 @ 10:04 AM ET
Await the post saying "then explain the red blob in front of the net"
- dragonoffrost


Those are the shots where the team is insubordinate to the coaches wishes.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 5 @ 10:04 AM ET
Unblocked shots.

Hmm

Seems to me this chart is more indicative of the team taking what the opponent is giving them.

- MBFlyerfan


That's their system
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Dec 5 @ 10:06 AM ET
Glad to see 10-15 outside the front of the net is ice cold, smh.
- ClaudeFather


Also the one circle is cold while the other has an Ovi Office?
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Dec 5 @ 10:07 AM ET
Someone stepped on a tick?
- BiggE

MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Dec 5 @ 10:09 AM ET
That's their system
- Scoob



Looking at other teams charts, I think feanor may have a point (shot).
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Dec 5 @ 10:10 AM ET
Hakstol has already been quoted saying that he was the guy who reached out to Wilson.
- BiggE

The wording on this makes me laugh. Hakstol is trying to save his job. So it wouldn't shock me if he approaches the new GM and says "I have an assistant coach position open do you have any suggestions?" Then he goes down that list and "reaches" out to them. I just cannot believe that this was all Hakstol's idea and the new GM didn't have a hand in it.
This isn't necessarily a bad thing. It shows Hakstol and the new GM working together... Of course it brings up the debate of how much did he get to pick his assistant coach versus the GM again. But I have to agree - I think he's most likely gone at the end of this season. It just remains to be seen if he makes it that far.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Dec 5 @ 10:11 AM ET
Looking at other teams charts, I think feanor may have a point (shot).

- MBFlyerfan


Which teams? If you are looking at the better teams of course it will be different. I feel most of the bubble teams will have a similar chart. Not enough talent to get to the high threat areas and generate shots on net. So they settle for what is given to them.
cdearth23
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA
Joined: 08.06.2015

Dec 5 @ 10:11 AM ET
Speaking of head coach possibilities, what is the book on Kevin Dineen as a head coach? He spent the past few years under Q in Chicago. I know very little about any of the candidates on the market.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Dec 5 @ 10:13 AM ET
I disagree Bob played well here. Only reason he was traded was because they wanted Bryz to be the clear cut #1
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


He was traded because he asked to be traded. He wasn't happy being a back-up behind Bryz's contract.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 5 @ 10:15 AM ET
There is no such think at any advanced level of hockey, much less the NHL as an offensive system that is built around point shots. Every offensive system strives to get the puck to the high percentage scoring areas of the ice. to get the puck behind the defense and to the net. There is no coach at an advanced level who favors point shots over shots from other areas of the ice and stresses point shots over higher percentage shots. It does not exist.

Stats such as heat charts can only tell you where shots are being taken from. They cannot tell you why shots are being taken from those areas. I'm amazed of the logic behind offering that chart as undeniable proof and what Hakstol's offensive system is based on. Mind boggling.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Dec 5 @ 10:16 AM ET
Not gonna happen, according his royal imbecile, aka James Tanner, the Yotes are just going to be moved to the central and Seattle goes into the Pacific (which will likely happen for real one day when the big earthquake comes)

Sorry, if this is late...well not really, (frank) all y'all

- BiggE


I know its not going to happen. Just what I would do if I was in charge. Gets rid of the "travel complaints" because everyone travels almost the same amount, except maybe the south. And it gets rid of that stupid divisional playoff series.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Dec 5 @ 10:17 AM ET
There is no such think at any advanced level of hockey, much less the NHL as an offensive system that is built around point shots. Every offensive system strives to get the puck to the high percentage scoring areas of the ice. to get the puck behind the defense and to the net. There is no coach at an advanced level who favors point shots over shots from other areas of the ice and stresses point shots over higher percentage shots. It does not exist.

Stats such as heat charts can only tell you where shots are being taken from. They cannot tell you why shots are being taken from those areas. I'm amazed of the logic behind offering that chart as undeniable proof and what Hakstol's offensive system is based on. Mind boggling.

- MJL


It also only shows shots that were not blocked. Not all shot attempts. So it is half of the story.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Dec 5 @ 10:21 AM ET
There is no such think at any advanced level of hockey, much less the NHL as an offensive system that is built around point shots. Every offensive system strives to get the puck to the high percentage scoring areas of the ice. to get the puck behind the defense and to the net. There is no coach at an advanced level who favors point shots over shots from other areas of the ice and stresses point shots over higher percentage shots. It does not exist.

Stats such as heat charts can only tell you where shots are being taken from. They cannot tell you why shots are being taken from those areas. I'm amazed of the logic behind offering that chart as undeniable proof and what Hakstol's offensive system is based on. Mind boggling.

- MJL

Good morning Julia. My flower.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Dec 5 @ 10:21 AM ET
Which teams? If you are looking at the better teams of course it will be different. I feel most of the bubble teams will have a similar chart. Not enough talent to get to the high threat areas and generate shots on net. So they settle for what is given to them.
- mickel25



I looked at all of them. The Flyers are definitely much more inclined to generate shots from the point than almost ALL of the other teams.





xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Dec 5 @ 10:22 AM ET
He was traded because he asked to be traded. He wasn't happy being a back-up behind Bryz's contract.
- youarewrong



Bob was in no position to be demanding a trade. He was a 24 year old goalie with just 2 years in the NHL.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Dec 5 @ 10:22 AM ET
I looked at all of them. The Flyers are definitely much more inclined to generate shots from the point than almost ALL of the other teams.
- MBFlyerfan


Was it just unblocked shots or all attempted shots?
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