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nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Dec 5 @ 9:35 AM ET
the hit on Wilson: Looked like he took a peak and saw Reaves coming but the hit was definitely late. Maybe Wilson let up because, while he saw Reaves coming, the puck was well gone so maybe he didn't expect to get hit. All in all, bleep Wilson
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 5 @ 9:35 AM ET
Meh, its a small sample size. Riittich was another guy that looked great and he dropped back down to earth. Got lit up last night.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Same can be said with Raanta and Kuemper. Just to prove that sometimes goaltenders look better or even worse depending on who they play on.

Bob has won 2 Vezina trophies, there is no doubt in my mind that he would of never of done that on the Flyers if he was never traded.
ajw12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.27.2017

Dec 5 @ 9:36 AM ET
Surprised me, too. Thought he was close to a lock, as a matter of fact.
- bmeltzer


I figured he was a lock too, considering he was on the team for the world junior showcase over the summer and since he's playing fairly well in the SHL
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Dec 5 @ 9:36 AM ET
I think the Wilson hire is a great move. He’s a great D coach and known for his PK coaching too. Definitely a step in the right direction
- BiggE

This why I question the hire...

I don’t know if this is strictly a Fletcher hire or a guy Hakstol wanted. So let’s say Hakstol gets fired. He has a miserable stretch under Fletcher’s watchful eye. The next guy also doesn’t get to hire doesn’t bring in his guys. His staff. How can a GM hire Wilson and let him go if a guy like Quenneville didn’t ask for him to begin with?

I’m assuming Fletcher was paying close attention to the Flyers the moment he was interviewed.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Dec 5 @ 9:38 AM ET
This why I question the hire...

I don’t know if this is strictly a Fletcher hire or a guy Hakstol wanted. So let’s say Hakstol gets fired. He has a miserable stretch under Fletcher’s watchful eye. The next guy also doesn’t get to hire doesn’t bring in his guys. His staff. How can a GM hire Wilson and let him go if a guy like Quenneville didn’t ask for him to begin with?

- SuperSchennBros



read online that Hakstol was the one who wanted him
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Dec 5 @ 9:38 AM ET
Same can be said with Raanta and Kuemper. Just to prove that sometimes goaltenders look better or even worse depending on who they play on.

Bob has won 2 Vezina trophies, there is no doubt in my mind that he would of never of done that on the Flyers if he was never traded.

- Glak18



Theres not really a lot out there. I've always coveted raanta. Yesterday people suggested quick which I want zero part of. I think the kinfs would love to be rid of the contract with his injuries and they have Peterson in waiting.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Dec 5 @ 9:40 AM ET
This why I question the hire...

I don’t know if this is strictly a Fletcher hire or a guy Hakstol wanted. So let’s say Hakstol gets fired. He has a miserable stretch under Fletcher’s watchful eye. The next guy also doesn’t get to hire doesn’t bring in his guys. His staff. How can a GM hire Wilson and let him go if a guy like Quenneville didn’t ask for him to begin with?

I’m assuming Fletcher was paying close attention to the Flyers the moment he was interviewed.

- SuperSchennBros


I think Wilson is a stop gap. Not somebody who is being forced onto the team or a new coach. From hasktol mouth himself he requested Wilson. Fletcher was okay with it cause of his own familiarity. But Wilson is old been in this game a long time. I dont see him coaching 5 more years regardless of who is coach. I think this is a 1 year favor to hasktol and fletcher to help steady the team.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Dec 5 @ 9:41 AM ET
Same can be said with Raanta and Kuemper. Just to prove that sometimes goaltenders look better or even worse depending on who they play on.

Bob has won 2 Vezina trophies, there is no doubt in my mind that he would of never of done that on the Flyers if he was never traded.

- Glak18


I disagree Bob played well here. Only reason he was traded was because they wanted Bryz to be the clear cut #1
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Dec 5 @ 9:41 AM ET
Theres not really a lot out there. I've always coveted raanta. Yesterday people suggested quick which I want zero part of. I think the kinfs would love to be rid of the contract with his injuries and they have Peterson in waiting.
- Tfaehner


Raanta is a lateral move. Get rid of an injury prone goalie for another injury prone goalie
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Dec 5 @ 9:43 AM ET
the hit on Wilson: Looked like he took a peak and saw Reaves coming but the hit was definitely late. Maybe Wilson let up because, while he saw Reaves coming, the puck was well gone so maybe he didn't expect to get hit. All in all, bleep Wilson
- nastyflyergirl

Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 5 @ 9:43 AM ET


Why is the NHL going to see Attle?
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Dec 5 @ 9:45 AM ET
It is pretty close to the same hit that Wilson landed against the Devils the other night. No head contact. If Wilson did not get any additional punishment for his hit Reaves should not get any additional punishment.
- mickel25



I just dont agree with that.

On the Devil's hit you could make the case that Wilson was trying to get out of the way a bit..
On this hit Reaves clearly targeted Wilson.

Reaves should get something for this hit but its the NHL DOPS so he will probably get a stern look.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Dec 5 @ 9:45 AM ET
I think Wilson is a stop gap. Not somebody who is being forced onto the team or a new coach. From hasktol mouth himself he requested Wilson. Fletcher was okay with it cause of his own familiarity. But Wilson is old been in this game a long time. I dont see him coaching 5 more years regardless of who is coach. I think this is a 1 year favor to hasktol and fletcher to help steady the team.
- Tfaehner


read online that Hakstol was the one who wanted him
- nastyflyergirl

Okay, thank you for the info. This concerns me. The GM’s obligation/Courtesy to give the old Coach a shot, while better coaches are on the market. I think Hakstol is toast.
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Dec 5 @ 9:46 AM ET


Why is the NHL going to see Attle?

- Scoob



Because they hate Quebec.
scorachek
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mount Joy, PA
Joined: 12.22.2013

Dec 5 @ 9:49 AM ET
Shoe's on the other foot syndrome.....I like it
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 5 @ 9:51 AM ET
With Seattle coming in I would like to see a change in... everything. Lets roll with 4 conferences and no east vs west. Playoffs will be top 16 teams with top team in conference earning a 1-4 seed.

Pacific:
Vancouver
Seattle
San Jose
Los Angeles
Anaheim
Edmonton
Calgary
Las Vegas

Southern:
Arizona
Colorado
Dallas
Florida
Tampa
Nashville
Carolina
St. Louis

Central:
Winnipeg
Minnesota
Chicago
Columbus
Detroit
Toronto
Pittsburgh
Buffalo

Metro:
Montreal
Ottawa
Boston
NY Rangers
NY Islanders
New Jersey
Philadelphia
Washington

- youarewrong


Not gonna happen, according his royal imbecile, aka James Tanner, the Yotes are just going to be moved to the central and Seattle goes into the Pacific (which will likely happen for real one day when the big earthquake comes)

Sorry, if this is late...well not really, (frank) all y'all
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Dec 5 @ 9:51 AM ET
Okay, thank you for the info. This concerns me. The GM’s obligation/Courtesy to give the old Coach a shot, while better coaches are on the market. I think Hakstol is toast.
- SuperSchennBros


Q may be not working for Chicago. But he's still getting paid and may have decided to take time off and recharge. Just because he isn't coaching doesn't mean he's available.

I don't want Stevens (Flyers ties) and Yeo (horrible in 2 places). So I'm fine with Hakstol staying for now.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Dec 5 @ 9:51 AM ET
I just agree with that.

On the Devil's hit you could make the case that Wilson was trying to get out of the way a bit..
On this hit Reaves clearly targeted Wilson.

Reaves should get something for this hit but its the NHL DOPS so he will probably get a stern look.

- opeth_pa


I agree that Reaves' hit was more of a targeted hit and will receive additional punishment. However, Wilson should have zero leeway with the league. He clearly could have made a better effort to avoid contact and he did not. With his record he should have something in addition to the game misconduct.

For me both hits need to be eliminated. Players without the puck should not be blindsided.

Also, frank Wilson.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 5 @ 9:54 AM ET
This why I question the hire...

I don’t know if this is strictly a Fletcher hire or a guy Hakstol wanted. So let’s say Hakstol gets fired. He has a miserable stretch under Fletcher’s watchful eye. The next guy also doesn’t get to hire doesn’t bring in his guys. His staff. How can a GM hire Wilson and let him go if a guy like Quenneville didn’t ask for him to begin with?

I’m assuming Fletcher was paying close attention to the Flyers the moment he was interviewed.

- SuperSchennBros


Hakstol has already been quoted saying that he was the guy who reached out to Wilson.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 5 @ 9:54 AM ET
Undeniable proof that the Flyers employ a shoot from the point perimeter system at 5 on 5.

Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 5 @ 9:54 AM ET
With Seattle coming in I would like to see a change in... everything. Lets roll with 4 conferences and no east vs west. Playoffs will be top 16 teams with top team in conference earning a 1-4 seed.
- youarewrong


I like the concept. The NHL will not go for no East/West simply because of travel costs. But I like the rest of the idea.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Dec 5 @ 9:55 AM ET
Not gonna happen, according his royal imbecile, aka James Tanner, the Yotes are just going to be moved to the central and Seattle goes into the Pacific (which will likely happen for real one day when the big earthquake comes)

Sorry, if this is late...well not really, (frank) all y'all

- BiggE


That's what was said about alignment at the BoG conference where they announced Seattle. It was a fun listen. They didn't mention changing playoffs

Tanner usually has his head in his posterior a lot but I guess he reported it correctly.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 5 @ 9:55 AM ET
I like the concept. The NHL will not go for no East/West simply because of travel costs. But I like the rest of the idea.
- Scoob


They should go to 1-8 playoffs in each conference with the division winners getting the top two seeds.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 5 @ 9:56 AM ET
Hakstol has already been quoted saying that he was the guy who reached out to Wilson.
- BiggE


Makes perfect sense to me. He needs an assistant. He's more than likely here for at least the duration of this season. Let him have a guy he wants.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Dec 5 @ 9:56 AM ET
Undeniable proof that the Flyers employ a shoot from the point perimeter system at 5 on 5.


- Feanor


Somewhat misleading. This accounts for only "unblocked" shots not all attempted shots.
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