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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 4 @ 11:49 PM ET
Not to mention AZ would have to justify to the rest of the league that's been supporting their failing franchise for years why they needed even more money so they could offer sheet another team's player for stupid money.

And they'd probably need to have it front loaded with most in signing bonuses to beat out whatever the Leafs already intended to offer Matthews, since that's what they did for both JT and Nylander, giving them most of their money near the start of the contract, something a team struggling financially might have trouble with.

Plus Matthews would need to want to go to a bottom feeder team (even if he grew up there) instead of a cup contender with all of his current friends/teammates.
Once in a while players will want to go home to play for their childhood team (see JT), but they generally do that when the team already looks like a good team, not when they've been wallowing in mediocrity for years.
If he doesn't sign an offersheet, it doesn't matter how many get submitted.

I think the odds of him even getting offersheeted are minimal, even less likely he signs one.

- Thecakeisalie


And if by some chance it did happen,
the Leafs would just trade Nylander or move out $$$ in some other way

They’re building around Tavares, Matthews & Marner
They’ll shuffle other pieces as necessary
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Dec 4 @ 11:49 PM ET
Yes, of course. That's what these boards are for after all. The kid is busting his ass out there, selling out to win. We're all tired of the losing, and waiting, I get it...but they just won 10 in a row...give them a little slack for crying out loud. I mean, you were approaching Fitz bashing Josh Allen levels lately. (HAHA Fitz...tongue in cheek, joking man...don't @me lmao)
- joevthree

you need to read more, Fitz and I talked about Allen when the season started, where the hell have you been. We haven't said anything to each other about him since.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Dec 4 @ 11:51 PM ET
The Sabres are 14-4-4 in their last 22 games including the 4 game losing streak at 0-2-2. Let that sink in.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 4 @ 11:52 PM ET
Yes, of course. That's what these boards are for after all. The kid is busting his ass out there, selling out to win. We're all tired of the losing, and waiting, I get it...but they just won 10 in a row...give them a little slack for crying out loud. I mean, you were approaching Fitz bashing Josh Allen levels lately. (HAHA Fitz...tongue in cheek, joking man...don't @me lmao)
- joevthree


Allen has looked better these past 2 weeks
Much better actually

Weird that he could learn anything while sitting?
VT001
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.29.2016

Dec 4 @ 11:53 PM ET
Does Toronto have the room to match Arizona if they did do a offer of say 10 to 11 million?
- c1067


Not only do the leafs have room, they match that contract before the ink even dries on Matthews signature.

They will then make Coyotes GM John Chayka an honorary leaf, give him season tickets for the next decade, and have a video tribute for him the next time the coyotes visit Toronto.

Eichel signed 10 Million AAV last season that kicks in this year. Matthews signs for either 10 or 11, then it is a major coup for Dubas and the leafs.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Dec 4 @ 11:55 PM ET
Eichel has 11 points in his last 6 games against Toronto. 3 of his last 8 multi-goal games are against the Leafs. Dahlin skated 29 minutes tonight as well. Pilut was on the ice for 9 minutes against Matthews and we had 14 shots on net and only 4 against.
joevthree
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 02.27.2011

Dec 4 @ 11:57 PM ET
you need to read more, Fitz and I talked about Allen when the season started, where the hell have you been. We haven't said anything to each other about him since.
- SABRES 89

You need to comprehend reading more, or I need to state it more clearly. I was referring to Fitz beating the "Josh Allen isn't ready yet dead horse", and it was tongue in cheek because many of his points were valid and he took hell for it. But it had nothing to do with your interactions with him about it.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 4 @ 11:57 PM ET
Scoring wise (and that's all that seems to matter it seems) yes he is sir...#5 lol
- joevthree


Well there’s more to it,
and it seems u know that

We need Jack to do more of what he did tonight
That’s all ppl are saying

When he does this more consistently...
then you can bump him into that elite level
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Dec 4 @ 11:58 PM ET
Doesn't take goggles to read McJesus has 3 more points with 2 1/2 minutes more average ice time per game, yet 22 less shots and is plus 2 to Eichels plus 6. I won't even get into Eichel being way better defensively, tougher, and more physical...better leader too.
- joevthree

The fact that you typed this makes it pretty clear you have the sabres goggles on.

If you take Eichel over McDavid then that's utter stupidity and youre lying to yourself. There are lots of other players that are better then Eichel who I wouldn't take over McDavid and that's no insult to Eichel, he's good.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 5 @ 12:00 AM ET
Not only do the leafs have room, they match that contract before the ink even dries on Matthews signature.

They will then make Coyotes GM John Chayka an honorary leaf, give him season tickets for the next decade, and have a video tribute for him the next time the coyotes visit Toronto.

Eichel signed 10 Million AAV last season that kicks in this year. Matthews signs for either 10 or 11, then it is a major coup for Dubas and the leafs.

- VT001


Probably something in the 12-13mil area though realistically

What Marner costs could be the bigger question though?
I’m guessing the Leafs are hoping for around 8mil per
joevthree
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 02.27.2011

Dec 5 @ 12:00 AM ET
Allen has looked better these past 2 weeks
Much better actually

Weird that he could learn anything while sitting?

- jdfitz77

This.
I admit I cracked up a bit when the proof came out in the pudding. lol
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 5 @ 12:02 AM ET
EK9 scores no matter which line he played on

I’d amend the Skinner point to read...

Skinner has been good, but Eichel has helped make him look great

- jdfitz77



Ek9 has 3 goals in his last 24 games.
Don't let the facts get in the way though.

He was good with eichel.
11 nhl seasons and only 1 (30) goal season

Never a (31) goal season

jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 5 @ 12:02 AM ET
This.
I admit I cracked up a bit when the proof came out in the pudding. lol

- joevthree


I still don’t get why anything i was saying was so controversial

When he was drafted,
literally EVERY expert said he was gonna need time to develop

Ppl acted like i said he should be moved to TE
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 5 @ 12:03 AM ET
Ek9 has 3 goals in his last 24 games.
Don't let the facts get in the way though.

He was good with eichel.
11 nhl seasons and only 1 (30) goal season

Never a (31) goal season

- Boss34


EK9 also scored when he played on a line with ROR
And even when he was on our 3rd line
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 5 @ 12:04 AM ET
I'll need an EK9 update, that's all you ever got is EK9. F you and Hasek.
- SABRES 89



Internet tough guy.

(frank) you!
joevthree
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 02.27.2011

Dec 5 @ 12:05 AM ET
Well there’s more to it,
and it seems u know that

We need Jack to do more of what he did tonight
That’s all ppl are saying

When he does this more consistently...
then you can bump him into that elite level

- jdfitz77

What we seem to have found here is common, middle ground sir. Well done. But that should also mean McJesus should have Edmonton in a little better spot, wouldn't it? But I'll digress on that...I know GMPC trashed his supporting cast...kind of like what Eichel had to deal with last year.
HealthyScratch6
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.13.2014

Dec 5 @ 12:05 AM ET
Scoring wise (and that's all that seems to matter it seems) yes he is sir...#5 lol
- joevthree

McDavid MacKinnon malkin Crosby Matthews.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Dec 5 @ 12:06 AM ET
Internet tough guy.

(frank) you!

- Boss34

I'll need an EK 9 update again, you bring him up all the time, that's all you got. For someone that can't stand him, you bring him up all the time, more then ROR is brought up on here. F off Loser. You got nothing dumb ass.
VT001
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.29.2016

Dec 5 @ 12:08 AM ET
Probably something in the 12-13mil area though realistically

What Marner costs could be the bigger question though?
I’m guessing the Leafs are hoping for around 8mil per

- jdfitz77


I think the leafs are hoping to get both signed for 20 - 21 million combined. 12 - 13 for Matthews 8-9 for Marner.

I think they'll have a hard time doing it. They are probably looking more like 22-24 million for both.

Maybe the leafs sign then only to 6 year deals to keep the AAV down a bit, and worry about the future later. A lot could happen it 6 years. With that said, they'll find a way to get them signed.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 5 @ 12:08 AM ET
EK9 also scored when he played on a line with ROR
And even when he was on our 3rd line

- jdfitz77



Ek9 scored 69 goals in almost 3 years.

Mostly with eichel. How many goals were with out jack?

30- 35? Basically 10 a year?
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Dec 5 @ 12:09 AM ET
Ek9 scored 69 goals in almost 3 years.

Mostly with eichel. How many goals were with out jack?

30- 35? Basically 10 a year?

- Boss34

Says the guy who can't stand him but knows all about him. Keep going
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 5 @ 12:10 AM ET
What we seem to have found here is common, middle ground sir. Well done. But that should also mean McJesus should have Edmonton in a little better spot, wouldn't it? But I'll digress on that...I know GMPC trashed his supporting cast...kind of like what Eichel had to deal with last year.
- joevthree


McDavid does dominate & take over games though
But it’s proof that without help,
no one can do that on a consistent basis

I think we have enough talent where Jack should be doing more
Not that he’s been bad by any means
But i wanna see him do what he did tonight more often
He’s obviously capable
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 5 @ 12:11 AM ET
I'll need an EK 9 update again, you bring him up all the time, that's all you got. For someone that can't stand him, you bring him up all the time, more then ROR is brought up on here. F off Loser. You got nothing dumb ass.
- SABRES 89



I went to kenmore west with you.

You are still a big mouth that doesn't back anything up.

Didn't then and now 2,000 miles away you tell me to (frank) off?

Get over yourself
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Dec 5 @ 12:12 AM ET
I went to kenmore west with you.

You are still a big mouth that doesn't back anything up.

Didn't then and now 2,000 miles away you tell me to (frank) off?

Get over yourself

- Boss34

Really because I didn't go to Kenmore West, I went to McKinley
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 5 @ 12:12 AM ET
I think the leafs are hoping to get both signed for 20 - 21 million combined. 12 - 13 for Matthews 8-9 for Marner.

I think they'll have a hard time doing it. They are probably looking more like 22-24 million for both.

Maybe the leafs sign then only to 6 year deals to keep the AAV down a bit, and worry about the future later. A lot could happen it 6 years. With that said, they'll find a way to get them signed.

- VT001


I have ZERO doubt that the Leafs will get them both signed

This Sabres vs Leafs rivalry is about to explode into one of the league’s best now that we are both good again

Should be fun

PS...
F the Leafs!
😂😂😂
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