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Shrike
Joined: 05.20.2016

Dec 4 @ 12:04 PM ET
Giroux - couturier - tk
Lindblom - Patrick - jake
Jvr - laughton - Simmonds
Raffl - vorobyev - nak

Provy ghost
Sanheim gudas
Myers macdonald

The instant Morin is healthy replace him for Macdonald

Stolarz
Elliott

flyhoc
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.14.2009

Dec 4 @ 12:06 PM ET
Which team has a better PK, Flyers or Seattle...

NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Dec 4 @ 12:06 PM ET
Sure, but are we trying to develop young high end talent or are we trying to develop a coach? This is Hakstol’s fourth season. I’m one fan who has seen enough.
- SuperSchennBros


We were doing both. Hak has seasoned now. Wipe out your memory and look with fresh eyes.

Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 4 @ 12:06 PM ET
so in a sense it penalized the Leafs because they took so long to sign? Never seen that before.
- ClaudeFather


Nvm to the nvm.

He's really making $6.77M plus a $2M signing bonus, for $8.77M take-home for the remained of 2018-19. Prorated, that comes out to $10.2M AAV for this year.

Guy really didn't lose a red cent for holding out. Sheesh.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Dec 4 @ 12:11 PM ET
We were doing both. Hak has seasoned now. Wipe out your memory and look with fresh eyes.
- NC Flyers Fan

No! This is the exact opposite of what I want. It’s like someone trying to sell me the used car I already own.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Dec 4 @ 12:15 PM ET
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nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Dec 4 @ 12:16 PM ET
I might be interperting this incorrectly, but it sounds like Fletcher is interested in giving players like Hart and Myers a shot before making trades. But it sounds also sounds like the defense and goaltending are the areas he wants to improve, and I don't agree with that. IMO if you want to improve the team defense, get some forwards that you can match as defensive assignments and can improve the PK. It will take 3 guys and you will likely have to eat the salaries of Weise and Lehtera while Lindblom might be sent to LV. I wouldn't mind a vet goalie coming in to split time with Elliot when he is healthy, like Anderson.

JVR-Giroux-Voracek
Konecny-Patrick-Simmonds
Laughton-Couturier-Raffl
XXXX-XXXX-XXXX

This doesnt change the core, or really hurt the youth movement. But it does give us 2 very good defensive lines.

- youarewrong


what? why? meh
cousjoe
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: North Wales, PA
Joined: 10.07.2015

Dec 4 @ 12:18 PM ET
My concern with Fletcher is his track record in Minnesota of trading prospects from the farm system for veterans with long term contract. I don't want to go back to the days of trading for players past the prime such as Paul Coffee, Tony Amonte, Daryl Sittler, ect.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Dec 4 @ 12:18 PM ET
No! This is the exact opposite of what I want. It’s like someone trying to sell me the used car I already own.
- SuperSchennBros


The grass over there is always greener...

wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Dec 4 @ 12:21 PM ET
Who knows, you can play a great game, but run into a hot goalie and lose. You can play a poor game and your goalie stands on his head and the other guy gives up 2 softies. I don't think they go 6-0-0, nor do I see them going 0-6-0, but pretty much anything in the middle is possible.

However, for sh!ts and giggles:

12/6 vs CBJ W
12/8 @ BUF OTL
12/9 @ WPG L
12/12 @ CAL W
12/14 @ EDM L
12/15 @ VAN W

So, fwiw, I'm going with 3-2-1

- BiggE


and that record in the Eastern Conference probably doesnt kill them.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Dec 4 @ 12:21 PM ET
Simmonds for Carter?

Kings get a contract off the books and can flip Simmonds before the deadline for picks
Carter doesn't have a nmc, Simmonds has a list (I'm pretty sure LA is on that list).

Flyers would probably have to sweeten the deal with a prospect but I could see a trade like this happening. Martinez could be an option too.

- Doctor DOOM



How does this in anyway help the Flyers?
section32
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Raleigh, NC
Joined: 02.15.2007

Dec 4 @ 12:23 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: Practice Day, Fletcher, Wilson and More
- bmeltzer

Bill,
Who hired Wilson? Is this Fletcher’s guy or did Hak ask for him? Trying to figure out the “allegiances”.
Doctor DOOM
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Where the bad things are
Joined: 12.13.2017

Dec 4 @ 12:23 PM ET
How does this in anyway help the Flyers?
- opeth_pa


Are you really questioning if Carter would help the Flyers?
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Dec 4 @ 12:23 PM ET
My concern with Fletcher is his track record in Minnesota of trading prospects from the farm system for veterans with long term contract. I don't want to go back to the days of trading for players past the prime such as Paul Coffee, Tony Amonte, Daryl Sittler, ect.
- cousjoe


Sorry you missed it. The motion was already passed. Here it is:

I don't see the need to blow up the dude's history before he is even f___ing introduced by Homer and Scott. Why don't we reserve some judgment until he makes a few moves for f____ sake.
- ajw12

Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Dec 4 @ 12:24 PM ET
Unless it's for a quality goalie, Center or Dman that fits in with the age of the core, I dont see Simmonds going anywhere until closer to the TDL.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 4 @ 12:25 PM ET
Giroux - couturier - tk
Lindblom - Patrick - jake
Jvr - laughton - Simmonds
Raffl - vorobyev - nak

Provy ghost
Sanheim gudas
Myers macdonald

The instant Morin is healthy replace him for Macdonald

Stolarz
Elliott

- Shrike


Morin hasn't played a lot of hockey and is going to need time to get his game back. Not likely to be ready to step right in. MacDonald when healthy and playing as he is capable calms the defense down.
Doctor DOOM
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Where the bad things are
Joined: 12.13.2017

Dec 4 @ 12:26 PM ET
We don't want to sign Simmonds but want a 33 year old Carter for 3 more years after this. No thanks.
- ClaudeFather


You have to give to get. Carter for 3 years wouldn't be back breaking.
Shrike
Joined: 05.20.2016

Dec 4 @ 12:29 PM ET
Morin hasn't played a lot of hockey and is going to need time to get his game back. Not likely to be ready to step right in. MacDonald when healthy and playing as he is capable calms the defense down.
- MJL

I agree Morin is going to need time, but a wounded, inexperienced Morin is still better than a healthy Macdonald, Hagg, or Folin.
Anybody can lay down on the ice or rim the puck off the boards for an icing.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 4 @ 12:31 PM ET
I agree Morin is going to need time, but a wounded, inexperienced Morin is still better than a healthy Macdonald, Hagg, or Folin.
Anybody can lay down on the ice or rim the puck off the boards for an icing.

- Shrike


Based on what?
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Dec 4 @ 12:33 PM ET
You have to give to get. Carter for 3 years wouldn't be back breaking.
- Doctor DOOM


I don't want three more years of Carter, and I doubt the Flyers would acquire him, but I will say this: That dude can still kill penalties and win faceoffs

He'll probably still be able to score 15-20 goals on the back end of that
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Dec 4 @ 12:34 PM ET
PROBALY going to get pummeled by the jackets,still go flyers
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 4 @ 12:38 PM ET
I agree Morin is going to need time, but a wounded, inexperienced Morin is still better than a healthy Macdonald, Hagg, or Folin.
Anybody can lay down on the ice or rim the puck off the boards for an icing.

- Shrike


Umm

Should watch a Flyer game or two before any more comments.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Dec 4 @ 12:39 PM ET
Bill,
Who hired Wilson? Is this Fletcher’s guy or did Hak ask for him? Trying to figure out the “allegiances”.

- section32


If hired Wilson will be fletchers eyes and ears in the room
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Dec 4 @ 12:39 PM ET
Bill,
Who hired Wilson? Is this Fletcher’s guy or did Hak ask for him? Trying to figure out the “allegiances”.

- section32


Wilson is 68 years old, so he's probably got allegiance to metamucil and ibuprofen.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Dec 4 @ 12:40 PM ET
Are you really questioning if Carter would help the Flyers?
- Doctor DOOM



Yes I am when you are giving up Simmonds and a pick..

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