I got the complete opposite of that from your previous comment. It must of been poorly constructed sarcasm.
- Glak18

You are correct. It is poorly constructed sarcasm. But that is because it is satire.

I agree that Laughton is a better center than those two and he has been playing center recently but as much as I love Vorobyev's potential he simply did not play well enough when given the opportunity.

As for the unwillingness to buy out Lehtera. What's the point of buying him out and having him hit the books this year and next year when you can just let the season play out with him still here and then he's off the books for good? I mean it's not like he's been horrible when playing this year.
- ajw12

Technically it’s satire.
- Shrike

Now that I know it was "satire" went back and re-read it...nope still no clue what the first part meant at all. What does the height of the net mean? You know Vorobyov is not a shooter right?

I'll say this: I don't necessarily WANT to do that. But anything and everything should be on the table
- AllInForFlyers

I don't either but it almost makes sense.

I agree that Laughton is a better center than those two and he has been playing center recently but as much as I love Vorobyev's potential he simply did not play well enough when given the opportunity.

As for the unwillingness to buy out Lehtera. What's the point of buying him out and having him hit the books this year and next year when you can just let the season play out with him still here and then he's off the books for good? I mean it's not like he's been horrible when playing this year.
- ajw12

I will agree he didn't play well enough, otherwise he would not of been sent back down, but in all fairness the games he played...no one played well.

I agree that Laughton is a better center than those two and he has been playing center recently but as much as I love Vorobyev's potential he simply did not play well enough when given the opportunity.

As for the unwillingness to buy out Lehtera. What's the point of buying him out and having him hit the books this year and next year when you can just let the season play out with him still here and then he's off the books for good? I mean it's not like he's been horrible when playing this year.
- ajw12

Because than our good players don’t have to risk having lehtera crap creep into their play style by seeing it over and over again.

Would Hagg be better if he didn’t have manning and Macdonald giving him advice?

We will never know.

I will agree he didn't play well enough, otherwise he would not of been sent back down, but in all fairness the games he played...no one played well.
- Glak18

No one played well but it looked like he didn't even want the puck. Hot potato.

Because than our good players don’t have to risk having lehtera crap creep into their play style by seeing it over and over again.

Would Hagg be better if he didn’t have manning and Macdonald giving him advice?

We will never know.
- Shrike

Lol yes because Lehtera's crap crept into G's & Coots' play style last season causing them to have their worst statistical seasons ever.

Or wait...

No one played well but it looked like he didn't even want the puck. Hot potato.
- ClaudeFather

Again that basically describes everyone during that stretch. All I want is to see Misha called back up and given another shot with everyone getting their heads back in the game. Then I will have better judgement.

Now that I know it was "satire" went back and re-read it...nope still no clue what the first part meant at all. What does the height of the net mean? You know Vorobyov is not a shooter right?
- Glak18

I see you don’t understand. It not about being a shooter, it’s about level of difficulty. If going to the ahl would help vorobyev learn how to play in the nhl, why wouldn’t going to the echl be even more helpful? Because if he can’t learn to play against the best then he doesn’t belong here at all.

Some good games on tonight, games that could help the Flyers. Being a Flyer fan means scoreboard watching in early December...


Boston @ Florida

Winnipeg @ NY Islanders

Colorado @ Pittsburgh

Calgary @ Columbus

Toronto @ Buffalo

Ottawa @ Montréal

Tampa Bay @ Detroit


Washington @ Vegas

This is the thing...the roster fit both on defense and at forward just isn’t right for many players right now. This is why I cannot be upset if Weal is scratched or used as the 13th forward. In an ideal situation, I believe he and others would perform better.

As much as all these guy probably like one another and don’t want to break up the band, it has become ear splittingly bad. Holes, poor fit, players playing too high or low in the lineup.

I am not going to single someone out of this mess to blame. I think Patrick needs to be at 3C right now, but that won’t help without a 2C. Laughton could get an experiment at 3C, but 2C is a stretch. He can play 3LW, 4LW, and 4C for sure.

Honestly, I’m hoping for hockey trades.

This is the thing...the roster fit both on defense and at forward just isn’t right for many players right now. This is why I cannot be upset if Weal is scratched or used as the 13th forward. In an ideal situation, I believe he and others would perform better.

As much as all these guy probably like one another and don’t want to break up the band, it has become ear splittingly bad. Holes, poor fit, players playing too high or low in the lineup.

I am not going to single someone out of this mess to blame. I think Patrick needs to be at 3C right now, but that won’t help without a 2C. Laughton could get an experiment at 3C, but 2C is a stretch. He can play 3LW, 4LW, and 4C for sure.

Honestly, I’m hoping for hockey trades.
- NC Flyers Fan

agreed, the fit is off with this team but if you look around the league the fit is off for a lot of teams. I guess that means there should be good trade partners out there.

After 271 + games, I eagerly await the true Hakstol, and being able to see what he wanted to do all along - now that mean man Hextall is finally gone.

My body is prepared. From Custer to Genghis Khan.

Re the center position:

While my preference would be for them to make a trade and leave G on the wing, right now with Patrick not performing at 2C level, moving Giroux back to center is likely the best option. However, I really don’t want Weal or Lehtera in the lineup. So, I’d recall NAK and roll with:

JVR-G-Jake
Lindblom-Coots-TK
Raffl-Patrick-Simmonds
Weise-Laughton-NAK

Again that basically describes everyone during that stretch. All I want is to see Misha called back up and given another shot with everyone getting their heads back in the game. Then I will have better judgement.
- Glak18

If he is good enough to play on the Flyers, why is he only getting 4C minutes in the AHL?

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- corduroy

If one guy can handle playing with those two it would have to be Claude.

If he is good enough to play on the Flyers, why is he only getting 4C minutes in the AHL?
- Djapana

He deserves a shot at the Flyers 1C lol

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- corduroy

TK on the 4th line and Weise on the 1st, this place would riot

I see you don’t understand. It not about being a shooter, it’s about level of difficulty. If going to the ahl would help vorobyev learn how to play in the nhl, why wouldn’t going to the echl be even more helpful? Because if he can’t learn to play against the best then he doesn’t belong here at all.
- Shrike

Ok I understand that point, probably better to stick with saying that instead of the satire. About that though, Misha wasn't sent down to learn how to be better. My understanding is he was sent down because he wasn't competing in practice and in game situation as he was expected in the NHL level and putting his linemates in situations to do the majority of the work. That may very well be the case, but at the same time when I watched those games again the team in general were doing the same exact things he was sent down for. I wasn't there for practice or the locker room so I don't know the whole story.

As for the other comment above hot potato puck, his play style is actually the opposite where he tends to hold onto the puck much longer than others.

All in all I think a lot of the team and players need a re-evaluation period with these new changes because this mess of a season so far has way too many factors so far that can cloud judgement of play.

TK on the 4th line and Weise on the 1st, this place would riot
- Doctor DOOM

Well blalnced lines. Opposition wouldnt know what to do with Lehtera and Weise flanking G. The WTF going through their minds would open the ice for pure domination

Look I get that he tries hard and all but he doesn't bring much to the table. I'd give Laughton the look at 3C and scratch Weal. There is no room for him in the top 9 and call me old school but I'd rather have a bigger body on the fourth line, not Lehtera but a mobile bigger body.
- ClaudeFather

Forget the 3 C. Problem goes deeper than that. Patrick is not a #2 C either. Sure if he succeeds that scratches the 3rd line off as a problem but 2nd line still is. I would rather G be a winger but its clear he needs to go back to C. Girouc, Coots and Pat as Cs. Weal out of the line up. Everyone else is a winger.

If he is good enough to play on the Flyers, why is he only getting 4C minutes in the AHL?
- Djapana

I can answer that with another question...how come the players getting the most ice time on the Phantoms are players who will probably never play in the NHL?

Varone, Carey, Brennan, Connor....

Vorobyov
13 GP 3-6-9 +2 - 10 PIM - 17 SH

Looking for his TOI now.

I see you don’t understand. It not about being a shooter, it’s about level of difficulty. If going to the ahl would help vorobyev learn how to play in the nhl, why wouldn’t going to the echl be even more helpful? Because if he can’t learn to play against the best then he doesn’t belong here at all.
- Shrike

They should just disband the AHL then.