Would address the backup position
- TheMussel

I still think MAC will be back.

So let me get this straight...

UG is concerned that Andersen is facing 5 more shots 3 or 4 times a week and that will burn him out.

On the other hand the Leafs should be playing Rielly on the PK and if they aren't it has to be because he isn't great defensively... when he already plays #1 PP and his shift.

Anyone else see the (frank)ing problem with these arguments?

Then he compares careers of vastly different lengths and stats from different eras.

Jesus, I wish the daily clown show around here would stop, or just go away.

I still think MAC will be back.
- Byfuglien Ate Me

I hope not, I dropped Murray for him.

Right Kapanen. And SIX more.

So, hypothetical amounts

Matthews - $11M
Marner - $9M
Kapanen - $3M
Gardiner - $7M

$30M

Leafs $9 million for 6 depth players?

Seems doable. I thought it was a certinaly Marleau would be gone, but maybe that's not the case?
- prock

Ouch, 7 million per for gardiner...too pricey for the leafs.
5.5 max for gardiner or he have to let him walk

Uh?
As long as it not illegal and within the rules of the arena, fans can say or whatever they want
- Fakepartofme

and they do. A lot of dippoops out there

That would make for one expensive backup.
- TrashPanda

Might as well get them to send over Kovalchuck too.

Right Kapanen. And SIX more.

So, hypothetical amounts

Matthews - $11M
Marner - $9M
Kapanen - $3M
Gardiner - $7M

$30M

Leafs $9 million for 6 depth players?

Seems doable. I thought it was a certainly Marleau would be gone, but maybe that's not the case?
- prock

seems realistic.... although I'm guessing Marner gets Draisaitl money, and Matthews gets a hair more than $11.

I don't see Gardiner getting $7m from anyone, certainly not from the Leafs.... maybe 6M on a shorter term deal, similar to what Shattenkirk got.

I'm guessing they try to bring Hainsey back at $1M / year or thereabouts - unless they acquire someone at the TDL with a bit of term.

perhaps a Muzzin acquisition - he's got another year 4M/per until end of 2019/2020 season
perhaps a McQuaid - believe he's a free agent in 07/2019

Thank God we aren’t getting Quick.
- Dongull_Trump

But he heard it from a source Gull.

So let me get this straight...

UG is concerned that Andersen is facing 5 more shots 3 or 4 times a week and that will burn him out.

On the other hand the Leafs should be playing Rielly on the PK and if they aren't it has to be because he isn't great defensively... when he already plays #1 PP and his shift.

Anyone else see the (frank)ing problem with these arguments?

Then he compares careers of vastly different lengths and stats from different eras.

Jesus, I wish the daily clown show around here would stop, or just go away.
- Aetherial

do we actually have any active refs in here currently?

So let me get this straight...

UG is concerned that Andersen is facing 5 more shots 3 or 4 times a week and that will burn him out.

On the other hand the Leafs should be playing Rielly on the PK and if they aren't it has to be because he isn't great defensively... when he already plays #1 PP and his shift.

Anyone else see the (frank)ing problem with these arguments?

Then he compares careers of vastly different lengths and stats from different eras.

Jesus, I wish the daily clown show around here would stop, or just go away.
- Aetherial

If Dubas had traded Leivo for a #1 RHD who could put up 60 points and play 1:20 of each PK, we could retire this subject and start focusing on the backup goalie dilemma again.

Oh, and that defenceman should be making league minimum for the next 11 years.

i like how you know the future
- senstroll

Its been a burden, but i do what i can for humanity

seems realistic.... although I'm guessing Marner gets Draisaitl money, and Matthews gets a hair more than $11.

I don't see Gardiner getting $7m from anyone, certainly not from the Leafs.... maybe 6M on a shorter term deal, similar to what Shattenkirk got.

I'm guessing they try to bring Hainsey back at $1M / year or thereabouts - unless they acquire someone at the TDL with a bit of term.

perhaps a Muzzin acquisition - he's got another year 4M/per until end of 2019/2020 season
perhaps a McQuaid - believe he's a free agent in 07/2019
- BorjeFan4Ever

I think you guys will be very surprised by what Gardiner gets.

So let me get this straight...

UG is concerned that Andersen is facing 5 more shots 3 or 4 times a week and that will burn him out.

On the other hand the Leafs should be playing Rielly on the PK and if they aren't it has to be because he isn't great defensively... when he already plays #1 PP and his shift.

Anyone else see the (frank)ing problem with these arguments?

Then he compares careers of vastly different lengths and stats from different eras.

Jesus, I wish the daily clown show around here would stop, or just go away.
- Aetherial

He keeps playing his broken records because he knows we'll dance to them.

This is (frank)ing gold:

LOL! Mike Babcocks reaction when asked if he would consider a Nylander brief AHL stint 🤣 #TMLtalk pic.twitter.com/eLLKOa9SXC

— David Nestico (@davidnestico200) December 4, 2018

So let me get this straight...

UG is concerned that Andersen is facing 5 more shots 3 or 4 times a week and that will burn him out.

On the other hand the Leafs should be playing Rielly on the PK and if they aren't it has to be because he isn't great defensively... when he already plays #1 PP and his shift.

Anyone else see the (frank)ing problem with these arguments?

Then he compares careers of vastly different lengths and stats from different eras.

Jesus, I wish the daily clown show around here would stop, or just go away.
- Aetherial

Then why do people spend so much time talking about him when hes not on here?

do we actually have any active refs in here currently?
- BorjeFan4Ever

We know that they are here, but they rarely do anything. UG is careful not to violate the CoC, even though he is annoying he technically isn't doing anything wrong. Or so I have been told by refs.

EK says the Leafs have interest in Quick.

Makes sense
- Byfuglien Ate Me

wait... what?

So let me get this straight...

UG is concerned that Andersen is facing 5 more shots 3 or 4 times a week and that will burn him out.

On the other hand the Leafs should be playing Rielly on the PK and if they aren't it has to be because he isn't great defensively... when he already plays #1 PP and his shift.

Anyone else see the (frank)ing problem with these arguments?

Then he compares careers of vastly different lengths and stats from different eras.

Jesus, I wish the daily clown show around here would stop, or just go away.
- Aetherial

UG is the king of strawman arguments. he quickly moves on or starts arguing a different point once he has nothing left to stand on.

You know what’s probably an easy solution to some cap issues?

Signing Marner to a 6 year deal and only Matthews to 8.

Give Marner his money when the JT contract and Z contract is over.
- Santo_44

I think they both may end up at 5 and we can maybe get away with a little less amount as we won't be buying any UFA years.

That would mean all 3 are up for new contracts that same year, but we will have a better idea of who we *have* to keep and/or whether or not we can really afford all 3. We'll also have a better idea how successful the group has been, and what really does need to be addressed

Seattle approved for 2021-22 season.

We know that they are here, but they rarely do anything. UG is careful not to violate the CoC, even though he is annoying he technically isn't doing anything wrong. Or so I have been told by refs.
- TrashPanda

I have an alternative to the ban hammer in mind.

But would require the Refs allowing us to "police ourselves" to some degree.

and they do. A lot of dippoops out there
- senstroll

Cool.
Thats old news though.

I personally don't think Gardiner returns. Leafs have a board somewhere where he's not in the top 6 and have a list of names to that would fill in for him.
- TheMussel

I'll take that bet

I think they re-sign him.

If Dubas had traded Leivo for a #1 RHD who could put up 60 points and play 1:20 of each PK, we could retire this subject and start focusing on the backup goalie dilemma again.

Oh, and that defenceman should be making league minimum for the next 11 years.
- Atomic Wedgie

That still doesn't solve our 4th line C issues.. Is Lindholm good enough? Why not Gauthier.?

I think you might want to take a look around the league and see what $5.5M buys you in UFA. It's really not very good.

Danny DeKeyser? Justin Schultz? Alex Goligoski? Jeff Petry.
- prock

Gards has grown on me. I still don't like him though. I think I would look elsewhere if he asked to be closer to the Ryan Ellis contract.