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Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Dec 3 @ 6:58 PM ET
They don’t talk day and night about trading him either like you do......
- Santo_44


How do you know? Their job is to explore possibilities, all possibilities, to improve the team to the best of their ability.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Dec 3 @ 7:00 PM ET
Was DeMar Derozan traded, even after he was convinced he wouldn't be? GMs have an obligation to improve the team and if an opportunity presents itself, a "promise" doesn't get priority.

Fact is, Dubas is very smart and he's not going to show his hand. He'll say what he's saying to make Nylander even more valuable than he already is. But make no mistake, if there's a deal on the table that improves the team, Dubas' obligation is to improve the team and he'd be stupid not to do it.

- Unholy_Goalie


If Dubas doesn't intend to stick to what he said. Then it's a pretty stupid thing to put out.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Dec 3 @ 7:02 PM ET
Look at the numbers, Dubas CAN sign everyone. The only tight squeeze is next season and then they are home free. Don't buy this media B.S. Nylander is staying.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Dec 3 @ 7:03 PM ET
Cap supposed to go to 83
So 3.5 More for Marner
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Dec 3 @ 7:04 PM ET
How do you know? Their job is to explore possibilities, all possibilities, to improve the team to the best of their ability.
- Unholy_Goalie

Of course they do. They talk with, probably with a healthy half of the other teams, on a regular basis. That's their job ffs!

This should not be a secret
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Dec 3 @ 7:05 PM ET
If Dubas doesn't intend to stick to what he said. Then it's a pretty stupid thing to put out.
- senstroll


Not if it helps him in trade negotiations which it would if Dubas makes it seem Nylander is "protected" as opposed to having him openly on the block.

It's also partially a response to the media saying they wanted to trade Nylander so he's trying to quell that chatter for this season.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Dec 3 @ 7:06 PM ET
Dubas promised him that if it got to the point that he wouldn't see regular ice time, he'd trade him.

So it looks like he's keeping his word.

- GreatGigInTheSky


But lying to Nylander. Clever
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Dec 3 @ 7:07 PM ET
Not if it helps him in trade negotiations which it would if Dubas makes it seem Nylander is "protected" as opposed to having him openly on the block.

It's also partially a response to the media saying they wanted to trade Nylander so he's trying to quell that chatter for this season.

- Unholy_Goalie


You don't tell a player that to their face and then tell the entire world and then go back on it.

Dubas cares about his reputation I'm sure.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Dec 3 @ 7:07 PM ET
Look at the numbers, Dubas CAN sign everyone. The only tight squeeze is next season and then they are home free. Don't buy this media B.S. Nylander is staying.
- RogerRoeper


Yup, especially if Marleau retires on July 2nd, 2019 in Arizona.

What he can't do, however, is put more money into the blueline because so much of it will be tied up with the forwards.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Dec 3 @ 7:08 PM ET
You don't tell a player that to their face and then tell the entire world and then go back on it.

Dubas cares about his reputation I'm sure.

- senstroll


So again, tomorrow, Columbus offers Seth Jones. Dubas says no? I'd (frank)ing hope not.

Nylander isn't on the block but if there's a deal that makes the team better, he'd be a complete idiot not to make it.

He should care a lot more about making the team better.

But what does Dubas have to say about this supposed promise?

“The discussion that William and I had had a couple of times was a fear of his … that he was being signed to be traded,” Dubas told Bob McCown and Stephen Brunt on Prime Time Sports. “And my discussion with him, I just affirmed with him that that was not our intention whatsoever.

“Our intention was that as long as I was here that I saw him as a part of the Toronto Maple Leafs.”

Maybe just a bit less committed than what’s out there (Dubas chose his words carefully – teams make decisions every now and then that they certainly never had any “intentions” of doing), and Elliotte Friedman has mentioned that he believes this season will be Nylander’s last in Toronto.
nbboy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.05.2010

Dec 3 @ 7:10 PM ET
Cap supposed to go to 83
So 3.5 More for Marner

- senstroll



Kaps money
TrashPanda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Your Green Bin, ON
Joined: 03.29.2018

Dec 3 @ 7:13 PM ET
So again, tomorrow, Columbus offers Seth Jones. Dubas says no? I'd (frank)ing hope not.

Nylander isn't on the block but if there's a deal that makes the team better, he'd be a complete idiot not to make it.

He should care a lot more about making the team better.

- Unholy_Goalie


daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Dec 3 @ 7:20 PM ET
is nylander ready for tomorrow
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Dec 3 @ 7:21 PM ET
is nylander ready for tomorrow
- daeth


Poulin said he'd be very surprised if he played this week.

I'd hope he'd play against Boston because it's Boston.

But they did get rid of Leivo (and his secret cocaine problem) so he technically could play against his brother and Buffalo.
annoyance__101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a
Joined: 04.25.2011

Dec 3 @ 7:22 PM ET
Doobas is totally screwed now.... good luck fitting Matthews and Marner under the cap.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Dec 3 @ 7:23 PM ET
The folks who run the SBA better play “break the bank” next home game for Willy..
Puck-us-all
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.12.2018

Dec 3 @ 7:24 PM ET
Doobas is totally screwed now.... good luck fitting Matthews and Marner under the cap.
- annoyance__101


What ever will he do 🤭🤔
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Dec 3 @ 7:28 PM ET
Doobas is totally screwed now.... good luck fitting Matthews and Marner under the cap.
- annoyance__101


26.5 million in cap space, 32.75 if Marleau retires in Arizona.

They're fine.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Dec 3 @ 7:32 PM ET
You're actually comparing Leivo to Nylander?
- TrashPanda

I don't know if he's making a comparison, It's different. Dubas promised Leivo that if he fell out of the top 12, he'd find him a better opportunity and in trading to Van, he did.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Dec 3 @ 7:33 PM ET
the devils could really use an nhl goalie
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Dec 3 @ 7:33 PM ET
26.5 million in cap space, 32.75 if Marleau retires in Arizona.

They're fine.

- Unholy_Goalie

We still can't fit Erik Karlsson though.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Dec 3 @ 7:35 PM ET
What ever will he do 🤭🤔
- Puck-us-all

Dubas will have to move out assets and rebuild again.
TrashPanda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Your Green Bin, ON
Joined: 03.29.2018

Dec 3 @ 7:35 PM ET
I don't know if he's making a comparison, It's different. Dubas promised Leivo that if he fell out of the top 12, he'd find him a better opportunity and in trading to Van, he did.
- PatC80


Leivo was never in the top 12, he was always borderline.

I had hoped he would be traded sooner, he deserves a place to play. That was never going to happen with the Leafs.
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Dec 3 @ 7:36 PM ET
Liljegren and sandin will be loaned to Sweden. That’s 2 more players in the wjs.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Dec 3 @ 7:36 PM ET
Leivo was never in the top 12, he was always borderline.

I had hoped he would be traded sooner, he deserves a place to play. That was never going to happen with the Leafs.

- TrashPanda

I agree with that. Nylander finally re-signing sealed Leivo's fate.
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