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Forums :: Blog World :: Mike Augello: Dermott temporarily demoted, Leafs trying to deal to make room for Nylander
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bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Dec 3 @ 1:31 PM ET
Exactly, Leivo is a good player. I have been supportive of Dubas, but this is a clear bad move IMO.
- Archaic

I think it’s just a courtesy to leivo. Won’t make it as a regular here, so get what you can for him. I think it would’ve been a loss for whoever the gm was.
Hockey_Reverend
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2012

Dec 3 @ 1:31 PM ET
I have no doubt that Pridham had a big hand in it. Nylander getting $17 in the next 8 months helps him a lot and lowers the cap number.. I think it's a win/win..
- PatC80


Can you imagine being that young, playing a game, and getting that much cash?

Hello Ladies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Dec 3 @ 1:32 PM ET
Stupid LAFFS.

They totally (frank)ed it up and need to rebuild now.

- Aetherial

Around Michael Carcone?
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Dec 3 @ 1:32 PM ET
Marner wants to play for league minimum, but the NHLPA won't let him.
- Atomic Wedgie


It's out of his hands Wedgie. Marner and Matthews have no say whatsoever in contract negotiations. That is why they have agents.

I already hate that narrative. That hate is only going to get worse.
Dongull_Trump
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Soon to be prison.
Joined: 03.24.2018

Dec 3 @ 1:32 PM ET
Can you imagine being that young, playing a game, and getting that much cash?

Hello Ladies Gullies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

- Hockey_Reverend



21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Dec 3 @ 1:32 PM ET
I have no doubt that Pridham had a big hand in it. Nylander getting $20.3 in the next 7 months helps him a lot and lowers the cap number.. I think it's a win/win..
- PatC80


*fixed
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Dec 3 @ 1:32 PM ET
Around Robbie Earl?
- Atomic Wedgie


yes
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Dec 3 @ 1:32 PM ET
Around Michael Carcone?
- Atomic Wedgie

everything starts with a LW if you want to focus on the left wing lock system
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Dec 3 @ 1:33 PM ET
Around Michael Carcone?
- Atomic Wedgie

21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Dec 3 @ 1:34 PM ET
Can you imagine being that young, playing a game, and getting that much cash?

Hello Ladies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

- Hockey_Reverend

bet you can get a decent condo in Tronna for $5M...
BreathLeafs2015
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Dec 3 @ 1:34 PM ET


From what I’m hearing we got a young mob boss in return for leivo. He’s gritty!!!
Dongull_Trump
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Soon to be prison.
Joined: 03.24.2018

Dec 3 @ 1:34 PM ET
yes
- Aetherial



It’s about time he was given a chance!
Rang
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.21.2006

Dec 3 @ 1:34 PM ET
Around Michael Carcone?
- Atomic Wedgie


No, around Rickard Wallin
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Dec 3 @ 1:35 PM ET
I have no doubt that Pridham had a big hand in it. Nylander getting $17 in the next 8 months helps him a lot and lowers the cap number.. I think it's a win/win..
- PatC80


nevermind
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Dec 3 @ 1:35 PM ET
bet you can get a decent condo in Tronna for $5M...
- 21peter

300 sft basement unit
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Dec 3 @ 1:36 PM ET
I don't believe the cap number is lowered, comparing the total salary to years, and the cap hit on capfriendly.

That was the thought when the discussion was about signing the contract 2 months into the season.

Unfortunately, that reality didn't happen when most of the contract became signing bonuses.

On the other hand, the signing bonuses favour the Leafs if they need to trade Nylander.

- Aetherial


and if there is a lockout....he gets his money before the season starts
Rang
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.21.2006

Dec 3 @ 1:37 PM ET
I don't believe the cap number is lowered, comparing the total salary to years, and the cap hit on capfriendly.

That was the thought when the discussion was about signing the contract 2 months into the season.

Unfortunately, that reality didn't happen when most of the contract became signing bonuses.

On the other hand, the signing bonuses favour the Leafs if they need to trade Nylander.

- Aetherial


Do you know what happens to the cap hit if Marleau decides to pull the plug and retire instead of playing his last year at $6 M?
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Dec 3 @ 1:37 PM ET
and if there is a lockout....he gets his money before the season starts
- Symba007


I think Nylander's party handled that negociation pretty well in the end.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Dec 3 @ 1:37 PM ET
300 sft basement unit
- Symba007


No way UG's mom has 5 million dollars
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Dec 3 @ 1:38 PM ET
300 sft basement unit
- Symba007

next to UG...?
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Dec 3 @ 1:38 PM ET
No way UG's mom has 5 million dollars
- TheMussel

if Augello can afford it, we can all afford it
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Dec 3 @ 1:38 PM ET
I have no doubt that Pridham had a big hand in it. Nylander getting $17 in the next 8 months helps him a lot and lowers the cap number.. I think it's a win/win..
- PatC80


I absolutely agree.

I think when doing the initial evaluation on numbers, you look at how it's going to benefit the team in saving money, but the opportunity that the Leafs had was to, instead, use that to provide Nylander with term and dollars, while keeping the cap to the number they didn't want to exceed.

My original thinking was that you'd hit that number (say 6.9), and it would offset as 6.5.

I don't think that $400k would have come in handy enough in other serious negotiations to matter. Marner / Matthews aren't going to be strung up by that, I don't think.

21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Dec 3 @ 1:38 PM ET
No way UG's mom has 5 million dollars
- TheMussel

Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Dec 3 @ 1:40 PM ET
Do you know what happens to the cap hit if Marleau decides to pull the plug and retire instead of playing his last year at $6 M?
- Rang


It's a 35+ contract, so you're dinged with it.

Marleau, if I recall does get less this year, something like 4 million. I think he salary was only something like $1.5m, so if you wanted to trade his cap hit to someone to help them hit the cap floor, you could. But he would have to want to retire and he'd have to approve the deal, because he also has a full NMC.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Dec 3 @ 1:40 PM ET
No, around Rich Costello
- Rang


That Sittler trade is finally paying off!
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