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Drapz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Windsor, ON
Joined: 07.10.2007

Dec 3 @ 9:51 PM ET
Not mad at all. Quite literally the opposite.

Oh yeah? Name them. And their price tags.

- Unholy_Goalie


Tavares plays forward
AngryWhiteMale
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 09.14.2010

Dec 3 @ 9:52 PM ET
Kappy-Matthews-Nylander
Hyman-PJ boy-Marner
Marleau-Kadri-Brown
Johnsson-Lindholm-Ennis

- PatC80


No matter how you spin it a lot of teams would love to have our third line...as their second.
Drapz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Windsor, ON
Joined: 07.10.2007

Dec 3 @ 9:52 PM ET
So cap's up by another 3.5 next year. Up another 2-4m the next year.

I mean, c'mon, we get Marner at 10-10.5 and Auston at 12-13 and I think we'll be ok within a couple years for any other signings(Such as Andersen)

But seriously once this team wins a cup I'm done watching pro sports...thinking of getting a life or something.

- AngryWhiteMale

PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Dec 3 @ 9:53 PM ET
Not mad at all. Quite literally the opposite.

Oh yeah? Name them. And their price tags.

- Unholy_Goalie

Think about it, like really think about it. All we really need is an upgrade on Hainsey. Do you think it will cost more than $7M to get an upgrade on Hainsey?
Rielly has been great. Dermott has been really good. Zaitsev has had a decent bounce back season. Ozhiganov has been better than I thought he would be.. We still have Gardiner, but if he goes it's likely Liljegren or Sandin can replace him.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Dec 3 @ 9:55 PM ET
No matter how you spin it a lot of teams would love to have our third line...as their second.
- AngryWhiteMale

I know but come July 1st, we'll have to trade them.. All of them..
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Dec 3 @ 9:55 PM ET
Think about it, like really think about it. All we really need is an upgrade on Hainsey. Do you think it will cost more than $7M to get an upgrade on Hainsey?
Rielly has been great. Dermott has been really good. Zaitsev has had a decent bounce back season. Ozhiganov has been better than I thought he would be.. We still have Gardiner, but if he goes it's likely Liljegren or Sandin can replace him.

- PatC80

Sandin is looking damn good as well.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Dec 3 @ 9:56 PM ET
Sandin is looking damn good as well.
- RogerRoeper

Exactly, the kid is killing it with the Marlies.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Dec 3 @ 9:57 PM ET
Think about it, like really think about it. All we really need is an upgrade on Hainsey. Do you think it will cost more than $7M to get an upgrade on Hainsey?
Rielly has been great. Dermott has been really good. Zaitsev has had a decent bounce back season. Ozhiganov has been better than I thought he would be.. We still have Gardiner, but if he goes it's likely Liljegren or Sandin can replace him.

- PatC80


No, you think about it. Like, actually think about it.

Hainsey needs to be replaced. Gardiner needs to be re-signed or replaced. Zaitsev is pretty garbage. Rielly has been very good offensively but defensively, not the best, could use a strong defensive player to compliment him who can kill penalties and play top pairing minutes. That's not a cheap player. Ozhiganov isn't all that great either. Dermott is good but still taking time to round out and should be an example that Sandin and Liljegren are still years away from being dependable top-four players.

So yeah, the defense needs work and it's pretty unlikely it gets fixed with chump change. You still didn't name defenders they could sign that would help fix these problems or their price tags.
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Dec 3 @ 9:57 PM ET
Approximately 3.5, up to 83 million.
- Unholy_Goalie

Nah

It'll go up $86M and people will cry foul, "East coast bias," "Leafs favoritism" and "conspiracy" given the timing of Toronto's upcoming contracts.

Book it.
BreathLeafs2015
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Dec 3 @ 9:58 PM ET

AngryWhiteMale
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 09.14.2010

Dec 3 @ 10:03 PM ET


- BreathLeafs2015


Nah we can't fit any more vowels under the cap since Nylander's 'Y' declared it wasn't a consonant.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Dec 3 @ 10:05 PM ET
Johnsson Matthews Nylander
Hyman Tavares Marner
Marleau Kadri Kapanen

Sploosh

- systemtool

Nah, cant have johnsson up on the 1st line.
They may test out kap on the left side on the 1st.
Either way, johnsson doesnt belong there.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Dec 3 @ 10:06 PM ET
Exactly, the kid is killing it with the Marlies.
- PatC80

We'll see him in two years on the leafs
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rented
Joined: 08.30.2006

Dec 3 @ 10:06 PM ET
All of us know that he'll retire a Leaf. The man has earned and deserves more respect than that.
- TrashPanda

could happen sooner if the Leafs win the Holy Grail of Hockey this season.
TrashPanda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Your Green Bin, ON
Joined: 03.29.2018

Dec 3 @ 10:06 PM ET
could happen sooner if the Leafs win the Holy Grail of Hockey this season.
- dmnted


That's true.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Dec 3 @ 10:08 PM ET
Nah, cant have johnsson up on the 1st line.
They may test out kap on the left side on the 1st.
Either way, johnsson doesnt belong there.

- Fakepartofme


Yeah, pretty dumb to have Johnsson on the 1st line with how Kapanen has been playing this year and the fact that he's good buddies with Nylander. Shouldn't be much of a problem for him to play on the LW (even though a lot of people here said it was crazy in the off season). Maybe Nylander could try it too.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Dec 3 @ 10:09 PM ET
No, you think about it. Like, actually think about it.

Hainsey needs to be replaced. Gardiner needs to be re-signed or replaced. Zaitsev is pretty garbage. Rielly has been very good offensively but defensively, not the best, could use a strong defensive player to compliment him who can kill penalties and play top pairing minutes. That's not a cheap player. Ozhiganov isn't all that great either. Dermott is good but still taking time to round out and should be an example that Sandin and Liljegren are still years away from being dependable top-four players.

So yeah, the defense needs work and it's pretty unlikely it gets fixed with chump change. You still didn't name defenders they could sign that would help fix these problems or their price tags.

- Unholy_Goalie


You're right. Leafs have given up the 4th fewest goals. That's unacceptable.. We should upgrade on Rielly too.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Dec 3 @ 10:09 PM ET
Maybe the contract was structured like that so he could get traded to a contender if the Leafs ended up sucking

In fact, it's quite obvious

- TheMussel


I think there is a possibility that he has an agreement with the Leafs to waive the NMC and be traded, then retire. If his intent was only to play 2 more years, this would have been attractive to him at the time.

If he decides to play, we have to figure one of Zaitzev/Gardiner is gone and one of Kapanen/Johnsson is gone, probably Brown is gone, Marner and Matthews will have to sign reasonable deals... and even after all that, we will be icing like 4 minimum-wage Marlies.

It isn't impossible that they keep all the major pieces, but it won't be easy.

... and we should all be thankful that they have this problem, instead of having no future
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Dec 3 @ 10:11 PM ET
could happen sooner if the Leafs win the Holy Grail of Hockey this season.
- dmnted


That would be an excellent scenario. A lot of winning teams have that old guy looking to win one before he retires. Would be a nice story and great for the cap situation too. Not sure this is the year though if they're going to keep giving up 40 shots a game.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Dec 3 @ 10:12 PM ET
You're right. Leafs have given up the 4th fewest goals. That's unacceptable.. We should upgrade on Rielly too.
- PatC80


You're right, after 27 regular season games, the Leafs defense is undoubtedly one of the greatest of all-time.

You still having named any defenders they can sign or their price tags.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rented
Joined: 08.30.2006

Dec 3 @ 10:13 PM ET
That's true.
- TrashPanda

The magical Hossa jock strap at work again.
TrashPanda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Your Green Bin, ON
Joined: 03.29.2018

Dec 3 @ 10:13 PM ET
You're right, after 27 regular season games, the Leafs defense is undoubtedly one of the greatest of all-time.

You still having named any defenders they can sign or their price tags.

- Unholy_Goalie


You still haven't told us how you know that Leivo was traded because of a cocaine problem.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Dec 3 @ 10:14 PM ET
You're right, after 27 regular season games, the Leafs defense is undoubtedly one of the greatest of all-time.

You still having named any defenders they can sign or their price tags.

- Unholy_Goalie

Aye aye Cap'n.

Jordie Benn is better than Hainsey
Nick Jensen is better than Hainsey
David Savard is better than Hainsey
I don't think any of those 3 will cost more than Nylander
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Dec 3 @ 10:15 PM ET
I think there is a possibility that he has an agreement with the Leafs to waive the NMC and be traded, then retire. If his intent was only to play 2 more years, this would have been attractive to him at the time.

If he decides to play, we have to figure one of Zaitzev/Gardiner is gone and one of Kapanen/Johnsson is gone, probably Brown is gone, Marner and Matthews will have to sign reasonable deals... and even after all that, we will be icing like 4 minimum-wage Marlies.

It isn't impossible that they keep all the major pieces, but it won't be easy.

... and we should all be thankful that they have this problem, instead of having no future

- Aetherial


And Winnepeg and TBay have the same problems next summer. It sucks to be awesome.
BreathLeafs2015
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Dec 3 @ 10:16 PM ET
That would be an excellent scenario. A lot of winning teams have that old guy looking to win one before he retires. Would be a nice story and great for the cap situation too. Not sure this is the year though if they're going to keep giving up 40 shots a game.
- Unholy_Goalie



Who’s jaromir jagr.
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