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Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Dec 3 @ 8:37 PM ET
This isn't how the NHL works.

But you know that, and you're not here to actually have a discussion, you're merely vexatious. Wish I had that kind of free time bud.

- mcleafs


It's actually exactly how it works. Players get paid to produce. Having players that are overpaid is a bad thing. 6.25 in cap space is more valuable to the Leafs than Marleau is at this point.
nbboy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.05.2010

Dec 3 @ 8:37 PM ET
If it was a Nucks thread, then dude is probably a life long Golden Knights fan.
- PatC80

21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Dec 3 @ 8:37 PM ET
They can't use all of the space available this year. Have to keep some to cover the bonuses that Matthews/Marner will make on ECL deals. If they don't then those bonuses count against next years cap when they can't afford to waste any cap space. So need to save 3-5 mill of this years space to accommodate the bonuses those guys will definitely be getting.
- Dr. Leaf

well, 'they' would know exactly how much there's to spend. Gotta learn to trust the client sometimes, f'n lawyer
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Dec 3 @ 8:39 PM ET
Everyone just go to Lucas blog and let the village idiot ramble on till 3am alone.
mcleafs
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.01.2013

Dec 3 @ 8:39 PM ET
It's actually exactly how it works. Players get paid to produce. Having players that are overpaid is a bad thing. 6.25 in cap space is more valuable to the Leafs than Marleau is at this point.
- Unholy_Goalie

Yes, exactly. But this isn't a video game. But again, you know this. Or sadly, you actually don't and actually believe points is everything and hockey can be fully read on a spreadsheet.

Either way, pretty sad.
TrashPanda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Your Green Bin, ON
Joined: 03.29.2018

Dec 3 @ 8:40 PM ET
The contract structure is pretty obvious.
- Unholy_Goalie


slan·der
/ˈslandər/
noun
the action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person's reputation.
"Josh Leivo has a cocaine problem."
verb
make false and damaging statements about (someone).
"Josh Leivo has a cocaine problem."

synonyms: defame (someone's character), blacken someone's name, tell lies about, speak ill/evil of, sully someone's reputation, libel, smear, cast aspersions on, spread scandal about, besmirch, tarnish, taint
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Dec 3 @ 8:40 PM ET
Some bloke on the Nucks thread. Unsure as to which team he's a fan of.

I've narrowed it down to Boston, Buffalo, Detroit, Ottawa, Montreal, Carolina, Washington, Islanders, Rangers, Tampa, Columbus, Florida, Pittsburgh, Philly, New Jersey, Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton, Winnipeg, Dallas, Chicago, St. Louis, LA, San Jose, Arizona, Anaheim, Nashville, Vegas, Minnesota or Colorado

- walshyleafsfan

My lord...brains of an ice cube...and...really looks like you're dialing in.
BreathLeafs2015
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Dec 3 @ 8:41 PM ET
It's actually exactly how it works. Players get paid to produce. Having players that are overpaid is a bad thing. 6.25 in cap space is more valuable to the Leafs than Marleau is at this point.
- Unholy_Goalie


I’ve been saying this for a while. Make him a leaf ambassador in the press box or a assistant management job but get the 6.25 off books. What’s the name of the island that lupul went to? Manage that
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Dec 3 @ 8:42 PM ET
Everyone just go to Lucas blog and let the village idiot ramble on till 3am alone.
- systemtool

poor Lucas; only had a blog for an hour today. MiB is hardly an ace Exec
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Dec 3 @ 8:44 PM ET
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Dec 3 @ 8:45 PM ET
Festive Stick
‏ @TheOakLeafs


- RogerRoeper[Random Willie appreciation tweet ahead of contract announcement]

Points as of 185 NHL GP


Tavares 142
Nylander 135
MacKinnon 134
Draisaitl 131
Kucherov 128
Giroux 128
Benn 128
Kuznetsov 126
Seguin 111
Kessel 103

That stat must stun a lot of people...


Yes and Willie's stats in Sweden when he was younger stack up with some big names in Swedish hockey as I recall
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Dec 3 @ 8:46 PM ET

- GreatGigInTheSky


There's another funny one coming out soon for Freddy level car protection.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Dec 3 @ 8:51 PM ET
26.5 million in cap space, 32.75 if Marleau retires in Arizona.

They're fine.

- Unholy_Goalie

Marleau wont be retiring unless they win the cup.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Dec 3 @ 8:53 PM ET
Yes and Willie's stats in Sweden when he was younger stack up with some big names in Swedish hockey as I recall
- Zezel

Your poor pen!s.
nbboy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.05.2010

Dec 3 @ 8:53 PM ET
Leivo has played 41 games for the Leafs, most of them with very limited minutes and has 9 goals.
He sits in the press box for 14 games straight while Nylander has 9 goals in 54 games of power play time and a regular #1 line shift.
Marner has 9 goals in the same 54 games with a regular shift.
Neither have ever been in the press box despite a complete disinterest in defence.
If Leivo played a regular shift he would probably score 30 goals in a season.
but he needs to improve his skating, like Bo hired a speed skating coach for example



Oh my

- walshyleafsfan

So sit Nylander or Marner in place of Leivo?

No assists in those 54 games either for them right?Just 9 goals..

I guess he knows more then Babcock...
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Dec 3 @ 8:54 PM ET
I kinda agree with UG on this one as can any human being carry out all the promises we make in life private or public? If Dubas can make this team better in the future he has got to do what he has to do. When he said it he meant it in scincerety but let’s live a little and see what happens this season. Coke really bothers me though.
- BreathLeafs2015


Me too, it gives me nosebleeds.

Just kidding, I don't do coke I just like the smell of it.
BreathLeafs2015
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Dec 3 @ 8:55 PM ET
Kind of hilarious the leafs are second overall in the entire nhl right at this moment.


And the crappy defense we have did not get us there.


All the teams below us have big named high priced D men and we don’t.


Why are we better?
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Dec 3 @ 8:59 PM ET
Your poor pen!s.
- Fakepartofme

It came off in my hand Sunday evening.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Dec 3 @ 9:00 PM ET
Kind of hilarious the leafs are second overall in the entire nhl right at this moment.


And the crappy defense we have did not get us there.


All the teams below us have big named high priced D men and we don’t.


Why are we better?

- BreathLeafs2015

Rielly IS a stud 1D.

Leafs by far have the strongest center depth in the league.

Freddy.

Marner.

Forward depth.

Babs.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Dec 3 @ 9:00 PM ET
Kind of hilarious the leafs are second overall in the entire nhl right at this moment.


And the crappy defense we have did not get us there.


All the teams below us have big named high priced D men and we don’t.


Why are we better?

- BreathLeafs2015

We all know the reason why we're better. It's because Andersen isn't tired....yet.
BreathLeafs2015
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Dec 3 @ 9:01 PM ET
Rielly IS a stud 1D.

Leafs by far have the strongest center depth in the league.

Freddy.

Marner.

Forward depth.

Babs.

- Arctic_AARDVARK


We have a G❤️❤️D team
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Dec 3 @ 9:02 PM ET
Grabs showing what a stick can do to your eye - if you're 'lucky'
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Dec 3 @ 9:02 PM ET
Marleau wont be retiring unless they win the cup.
- Fakepartofme


You don't know that but his contract structure suggests otherwise.

I'm not saying 100% he will retire but the option is certainly there.

One thing that is 100% however is that it's definitely better for the Leafs if he retires in Arizona, July 2nd 2019.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Dec 3 @ 9:06 PM ET
You don't know that but his contract structure suggests otherwise.

I'm not saying 100% he will retire but the option is certainly there.

One thing that is 100% however is that it's definitely better for the Leafs if he retires in Arizona, July 2nd 2019.

- Unholy_Goalie

Sure...
It's also better if we can trade Freddy Gauthier for P.K Subban, doesn't mean it's gonna happen.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Dec 3 @ 9:10 PM ET
The contract structure is pretty obvious.
- Unholy_Goalie


Maybe the contract was structured like that so he could get traded to a contender if the Leafs ended up sucking

In fact, it's quite obvious
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