TrashPanda
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Location: Your Green Bin, ON Joined: 03.29.2018
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It doesn't because it just increases Nylander's value. He's not showing his hand. Just like Lou taught him. Remember when Leivo didn't request a trade? Oh, guess he's gone now though.
He is really good, yes and that should include making any deal to improve the team. - Unholy_Goalie
You're actually comparing Leivo to Nylander? |
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daeth
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: 43 points, ON Joined: 09.15.2005
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RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN Joined: 04.16.2016
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You're actually comparing Leivo to Nylander? - TrashPanda
It’s UG. What the hell do you expect? |
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21peter
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Peter I Island Joined: 11.18.2014
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CapFriendly Transactions@CF_Transactions
Minors → NHL
Jordan Nolan (C, LW, RW) | St. Louis Blues
#STLBlues
Blues desperate to clear up space.
A potential trade should be near. |
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RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN Joined: 04.16.2016
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CapFriendly Transactions@CF_Transactions
Minors → NHL
Jordan Nolan (C, LW, RW) | St. Louis Blues
#STLBlues
Blues desperate to clear up space.
A potential trade should be near. - 21peter
Parayko for Goat, Marincin and Horton. |
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Parayko for Goat, Marincin and Horton. - RafiDRW
No way. I have a better trade!!!
BIG TRADE FIR LEAFS!!!!
Pietrangelo
For
Nathan Horton
Horton has yuge upside |
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Buggy166
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Canada, ON Joined: 08.01.2007
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Willie is correct. He wont get traded so long as Dubas is GM.
Nothing wrong with that.
We'll see if he still is, 6 years from now. |
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GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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It doesn't because it just increases Nylander's value. He's not showing his hand. Just like Lou taught him. Remember when Leivo didn't request a trade? Oh, guess he's gone now though.
He is really good, yes and that should include making any deal to improve the team. - Unholy_Goalie
Dubas promised him that if it got to the point that he wouldn't see regular ice time, he'd trade him.
So it looks like he's keeping his word. |
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prock
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON Joined: 08.30.2007
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not even Gretzky? - 21peter
How about Bobby Ryan? |
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Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON Joined: 08.23.2006
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Dubas promised him that if it got to the point that he wouldn't see regular ice time, he'd trade him.
So it looks like he's keeping his word. - GreatGigInTheSky
Was DeMar Derozan traded, even after he was convinced he wouldn't be? GMs have an obligation to improve the team and if an opportunity presents itself, a "promise" doesn't get priority.
Fact is, Dubas is very smart and he's not going to show his hand. He'll say what he's saying to make Nylander even more valuable than he already is. But make no mistake, if there's a deal on the table that improves the team, Dubas' obligation is to improve the team and he'd be stupid not to do it. |
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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I think there's at least 5 players on Winterpeg better than Laine. Yeah, he's a fantastic goal scorer, but that's it.
I can see him asking for at least $10 million. And I don't think he's worth it. - GreatGigInTheSky
Considering scoring goals is usually considered a highly regarded asset among hockey people in the nhl, laine will get 9.5 - 10.5 easily.
But who are the 5 players you feel are better than laine on the peg? |
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21peter
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Peter I Island Joined: 11.18.2014
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How about Bobby Ryan? - prock
ouch
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21peter
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Peter I Island Joined: 11.18.2014
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Was DeMar Derozan traded, even after he was convinced he wouldn't be? GMs have an obligation to improve the team and if an opportunity presents itself, a "promise" doesn't get priority.
Fact is, Dubas is very smart and he's not going to show his hand. He'll say what he's saying to make Nylander even more valuable than he already is. But make no mistake, if there's a deal on the table that improves the team, Dubas' obligation is to improve the team and he'd be stupid not to do it. - Unholy_Goalie
goddamn - using f'n basketball is showing desperation, man |
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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Jonas Siegel
Verified account @jonassiegel
11m11 minutes ago
William Nylander: “Kyle has told me multiple times that as long as he’s here he’s not going to trade me.”
Ooooo Uggie, where art thou? - gravyface
Not the first a gm has said that.
Means nothing if the right offer comes along |
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GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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Was DeMar Derozan traded, even after he was convinced he wouldn't be? GMs have an obligation to improve the team and if an opportunity presents itself, a "promise" doesn't get priority.
Fact is, Dubas is very smart and he's not going to show his hand. He'll say what he's saying to make Nylander even more valuable than he already is. But make no mistake, if there's a deal on the table that improves the team, Dubas' obligation is to improve the team and he'd be stupid not to do it. - Unholy_Goalie
Masai flatout said that there was a misunderstanding between he and Derozan in what was said. So while Derozan thought one thing was said, it actually wasn't.
That was a case of not being clear. Not a guy going back on his word. |
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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goddamn - using f'n basketball is showing desperation, man - 21peter
Its happened in the nhl. The d roz example was just the most recent. |
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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Masai flatout said that there was a misunderstanding between he and Derozan in what was said. So while Derozan thought one thing was said, it actually wasn't.
That was a case of not being clear. Not a guy going back on his word. - GreatGigInTheSky
Well not really
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RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN Joined: 04.16.2016
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No way. I have a better trade!!!
BIG TRADE FIR LEAFS!!!!
Pietrangelo
For
Nathan Horton
Horton has yuge upside - BreathLeafs2015
Agreed. Done. |
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Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON Joined: 08.23.2006
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Masai flatout said that there was a misunderstanding between he and Derozan in what was said. So while Derozan thought one thing was said, it actually wasn't.
That was a case of not being clear. Not a guy going back on his word. - GreatGigInTheSky
"Misunderstanding" is a nice PR move. It's bullpoop. He saw a great opportunity, he pounced on it like a good GM should. The same would happen with Nylander.
If tomorrow Columbus offers Seth Jones for Nylander, you think Dubas says "Well, sorry, I can't. I said I wouldn't trade Nylander"? (frank) no he doesn't. |
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senstroll
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Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON Joined: 02.22.2008
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It doesn't because it just increases Nylander's value. He's not showing his hand. Just like Lou taught him. Remember when Leivo didn't request a trade? Oh, guess he's gone now though.
He is really good, yes and that should include making any deal to improve the team. - Unholy_Goalie
Sure |
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GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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Considering scoring goals is usually considered a highly regarded asset among hockey people in the nhl, laine will get 9.5 - 10.5 easily.
But who are the 5 players you feel are better than laine on the peg? - Fakepartofme
He's also completely useless everywhere else on the ice. I agree that'll he'll probably get around that much, just don't think he's worth it.
Shifielifieiieeee
Wheeler
Connor
Byfuglien
Hellebyuck
I think they're all easily better than Laine. And before this season I would probably have had Ehlers on that list, too. But he's been subpar this season, imo. |
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Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON Joined: 08.23.2006
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Not the first a gm has said that.
Means nothing if the right offer comes along - Fakepartofme
Exactly.
Also means nothing if Marner and Matthews get more than Dubas expects them to get and has to make cap moves.
It's their intention to keep them together but nobody has a gun to his head either. Things change and he'd have to adapt to those changes to make sure he does what's best for the team.
And if he doesn't, then Shanahan might. |
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GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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"Misunderstanding" is a nice PR move. It's bullpoop. He saw a great opportunity, he pounced on it like a good GM should. The same would happen with Nylander.
If tomorrow Columbus offers Seth Jones for Nylander, you think Dubas says "Well, sorry, I can't. I said I wouldn't trade Nylander"? (frank) no he doesn't. - Unholy_Goalie
Get ready to be very disappointed when Bill Ny isn't traded, then. |
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Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 10.20.2014
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Exactly.
Also means nothing if Marner and Matthews get more than Dubas expects them to get and has to make cap moves.
It's their intention to keep them together but nobody has a gun to his head either. Things change and he'd have to adapt to those changes to make sure he does what's best for the team.
And if he doesn't, then Shanahan might. - Unholy_Goalie
They don’t talk day and night about trading him either like you do...... |
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Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON Joined: 08.23.2006
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Get ready to be very disappointed when Bill Ny isn't traded, then. - GreatGigInTheSky
If the Leafs can't win in the playoffs and it's obvious they have to upgrade the defense or upgrade something else and he refuses to move Nylander, would that make you happy?
Things change all the time in the NHL. What he says and does today might not work tomorrow and if he's good at his job, he'll adapt and do what needs to be done to improve the team above the needs of the individual. |
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