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winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Dec 3 @ 11:26 AM ET
1 jack had 64 point in 67 games last year.
2 Jack plays center
3 jack is top 10 in point this year
4 Jack plays against the other teams best line every night, While Nylander plays against other teams 3.
5 Jack makes players around him into super stars.
6 Besides his rookie year. This is his first year healthy and not having to play with high ankle sprain. Which is the worst injury to have. last all season.

- BigDog912





21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Dec 3 @ 11:26 AM ET
new blog everyone
- mikeinbuffalo

Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Dec 3 @ 11:27 AM ET
His value was higher in the summer then it is now. Can he have a crazy season and increase value yes. But with this contract holdout hurt his value. Also teams would think if they trade for him in summer they could get better contract. Could they prolly not but GMs have big EGOs. Also, I think the leafs being good is good for hockey. Bigger salary cap and it is fun to watch sabres and leafs being good at the same time. Cant wait for Sabres to put a smoke the leafs Tomorrow.
- BigDog912


Again, you keep saying what you “hope” is true. And it’s hillarious to all of us here.

Oh, and leaf fans don’t care about Buffalo. It’s another game for us fans...you can care all you want it doesn’t make it a rivalry.
Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

Dec 3 @ 11:28 AM ET
As a reply to this,
Nylander Contract Structure
2018: 10,277,778
2019-2024: 6,962,366

Is this how Dubas and his bookies were able to make it work for both Nylander and the Leafs? What are your thoughts on how the deal went down, how it’s structured and did he have to miss all those games for the deal to go down as it did?

I just wanted to comment on this question because I keep hearing how the Leafs signed him to a $6.96M a year contract (I am not referring to anyone here just in general) which is not the case even though that is how the cap average comes out for Seasons 2-6. Everyone is conveniently forgetting the $10.2M cap hit for this year. But to answer your question I do think he had to miss all that time for his contract to be structured like that. If he would have signed a 6 year $45M contract before the Season started his cap hit for All years would be $7.5M a year. Nylander waiting, although not ideal, worked out best for both parties because Nylander got his $7.5M and the Leafs got a lower Cap hit for all the years that actually matter.

- Sabrehagan


The contract worked out perfectly for the Leafs.
The bigger cap issue is next year and getting Willy at 6.9mill (regardless of what it is this year) is huge for the Leafs with Matthews and Marner coming up.

Big win on this signing for the Leafs - no matter what other team's salty fans might think.
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Dec 3 @ 11:29 AM ET
Are we talking about the same Guy. You know Trump got elected not murder Hillary with her rapist husband Bill.
- BigDog912

I heard Trump was the rapist.💋
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Dec 3 @ 11:29 AM ET



- TheMussel


Kypreos said Leivo is almost traded, apparently.
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Dec 3 @ 11:29 AM ET
New blog


Elliotte Friedman Retweeted
Nick Kypreos
Nick Kypreos
@RealKyper
·
13m
Roster move expected for
@leafs
with Nylander coming back. Hearing Josh Leivo in play. Word from BOG meetings has multiple teams interested.
@Sportsnet

@NHL

- BreathLeafs2015

Poor leivo. Can’t catch a break.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Dec 3 @ 11:31 AM ET
Haha you cant afford to keep him.
- BigDog912

What do you mean? We have cap room already. We can absolutely afford him. We just did.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Dec 3 @ 11:32 AM ET
Kypreos said Leivo is almost traded, apparently.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Knew it.

Leivo was always gonna be gone. They just aren't keen on him.
Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

Dec 3 @ 11:32 AM ET
Do I have to teach you a math lesson AGAIN? Come on man.

(frank) this is just sad I hope you aren’t a grown man

- Santo_44


He is from Barffalo - you must forgive his academic and comprehension skills. School system is poope!!
Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

Dec 3 @ 11:39 AM ET
Yeah teams dont care about cancers in the locker room. He will have to work on changing his image first to increase his value.
- BigDog912


I guess you haven't been hearing what all his teammates have been saying leading up to the signing...

Again, just showing you saltiness.

Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

Dec 3 @ 11:39 AM ET
G stands for gay?
- Symba007



I thought that was obvious.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Dec 3 @ 11:59 AM ET
Are you guys really trying to spin this off as leafs did good job here. This was terrible management by Dubas and leafs. They should of traded him in off season when his value was the highest. And you honestly think their is not going to be ill will between leafs and willy. This was an embarrassment for the league. The only positive is Dubas didn't give in and give him what he wanted. If he gave him 8mil + then i think we would be seeing a lot more holdouts going forward.
- BigDog912


bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Dec 3 @ 12:06 PM ET
1 jack had 64 point in 67 games last year.
2 Jack plays center
3 jack is top 10 in point this year
4 Jack plays against the other teams best line every night, While Nylander plays against other teams 3.
5 Jack makes players around him into super stars.
6 Besides his rookie year. This is his first year healthy and not having to play with high ankle sprain. Which is the worst injury to have. last all season.

- BigDog912



Your on the Leafs Blog... Nobody cares. Just sayin.
leafsfann
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Joined: 05.11.2014

Dec 3 @ 12:20 PM ET
Honestly at this point... might as well be.

I like browntown but he's on pace for 20 something points and makes over 2 million.

If there's a deal for him where we get a reasonable return, like 4th or 5th round pick, I think you gotta do it.

- TheMussel


Brown doesn't make that much in his next contract. He got 2 for his upside from having that 20 goal season. Turns out it was a fluke.
leafsfann
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Joined: 05.11.2014

Dec 3 @ 12:22 PM ET
Knew it.

Leivo was always gonna be gone. They just aren't keen on him.

- walshyleafsfan


I hope he goes somewhere like Edmonton, where he's almost a shoe in to get top 6 minutes and undo some of the career damage that 2 years in the press box caused.
Alberta_Leaf
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Brownvale, AB
Joined: 08.12.2016

Dec 3 @ 12:39 PM ET
The entire Willy scenario was pre-planned right from the Start...
The only way they could pay Willy what he wanted and stay under
the magic 7.0M number was to do it this way...

He gets 10.2M for this year playing 2/3 of a season !!!
Bravo Willy !!!

Leafs get cap-hit with 6.9M years 2 thru 6 !!!
Bravo Kyle !!!
Dr. Leaf
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oakville, ON
Joined: 07.01.2018

Dec 3 @ 8:11 PM ET
Are you guys really trying to spin this off as leafs did good job here. This was terrible management by Dubas and leafs. They should of traded him in off season when his value was the highest. And you honestly think their is not going to be ill will between leafs and willy. This was an embarrassment for the league. The only positive is Dubas didn't give in and give him what he wanted. If he gave him 8mil + then i think we would be seeing a lot more holdouts going forward.
- BigDog912


Nice try Troll.
No go back under your bridge (would be better than being in Buffalo)
Dr. Leaf
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oakville, ON
Joined: 07.01.2018

Dec 3 @ 8:14 PM ET
As a reply to this,
Nylander Contract Structure
2018: 10,277,778
2019-2024: 6,962,366

Is this how Dubas and his bookies were able to make it work for both Nylander and the Leafs? What are your thoughts on how the deal went down, how it’s structured and did he have to miss all those games for the deal to go down as it did?

I just wanted to comment on this question because I keep hearing how the Leafs signed him to a $6.96M a year contract (I am not referring to anyone here just in general) which is not the case even though that is how the cap average comes out for Seasons 2-6. Everyone is conveniently forgetting the $10.2M cap hit for this year. But to answer your question I do think he had to miss all that time for his contract to be structured like that. If he would have signed a 6 year $45M contract before the Season started his cap hit for All years would be $7.5M a year. Nylander waiting, although not ideal, worked out best for both parties because Nylander got his $7.5M and the Leafs got a lower Cap hit for all the years that actually matter.

- Sabrehagan


Except he didn't get his 7.5 mill. That 10.2 cap hit is NOT ACTUAL REAL DOLLARS GOING TO NYLANDER.
Dr. Leaf
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oakville, ON
Joined: 07.01.2018

Dec 3 @ 8:16 PM ET
I think Nylander's camp was reaching for as much as possible. In the end, it is a 7.5 million/yr contract, which is probably right in the middle of where each out started out. Not surprised he sat out the whole time, in hindsight. He was seemingly willing to risk a trade to stand his ground.

Everyone says that he had no leverage, but ultimately subtracting his skill set from this team, especially this year, would be a big hit... considering they look like they're going to make a splash.

- TheMussel



No it IS NOT a 7.5mill/yr Contract. It is the 6.9. The 10.2 is pro-rating this years money for 3/5 of so of a season as if it was the same rate over a whole season. He doesn't actually get 10.2 this year and doesn't get more than the 41.change overall of 6.9/yr avg.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Dec 3 @ 8:40 PM ET
oh it is a bit less UGly in here
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