I think the leafs and nylander did a good job of not creating any animosity either. Both parties were able to come out of it with no ill will.
- bryant

Yeah, I'm sure they weren't happy but kept it professional. Good sign for Dubas' first major negotiation.

Are we talking about the same Guy. You know Trump got elected not murder Hillary with her rapist husband Bill.
- BigDog912

#biggoof

Are we talking about the same Guy. You know Trump got elected not murder Hillary with her rapist husband Bill.
- BigDog912

Don't forget the 33 000 emails!

So, do you think the leafs will punish willy and make him play on third line or try to put him with top lines and increase trade value.
- BigDog912

Ha

Ha ha

He rode the pine all of last year, so no.
- AdamFrench

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So, do you think the leafs will punish willy and make him play on third line or try to put him with top lines and increase trade value.
- BigDog912

That contract already increased his trade value.

Yeah, I'm sure they weren't happy but kept it professional. Good sign for Dubas' first major negotiation.
- 13sundin13

Are you guys really trying to spin this off as leafs did good job here. This was terrible management by Dubas and leafs. They should of traded him in off season when his value was the highest. And you honestly think their is not going to be ill will between leafs and willy. This was an embarrassment for the league. The only positive is Dubas didn't give in and give him what he wanted. If he gave him 8mil + then i think we would be seeing a lot more holdouts going forward.

Are you guys really trying to spin this off as leafs did good job here. This was terrible management by Dubas and leafs. They should of traded him in off season when his value was the highest. And you honestly think their is not going to be ill will between leafs and willy. This was an embarrassment for the league. The only positive is Dubas didn't give in and give him what he wanted. If he gave him 8mil + then i think we would be seeing a lot more holdouts going forward.
- BigDog912

Found Max's alt

#biggoof
- winsix

People hate on trump because he says stupid things. ALl the time. But he has increased our economy like crazy. Look at the Exchange rate and GDP. I like money>

Are you guys really trying to spin this off as leafs did good job here. This was terrible management by Dubas and leafs. They should of traded him in off season when his value was the highest. And you honestly think their is not going to be ill will between leafs and willy. This was an embarrassment for the league. The only positive is Dubas didn't give in and give him what he wanted. If he gave him 8mil + then i think we would be seeing a lot more holdouts going forward.
- BigDog912

Love the deal.

Love Dubas.

Love Nylander.

Love this team.

Love your bitter salty envious tears.

Are you guys really trying to spin this off as leafs did good job here. This was terrible management by Dubas and leafs. They should of traded him in off season when his value was the highest. And you honestly think their is not going to be ill will between leafs and willy. This was an embarrassment for the league. The only positive is Dubas didn't give in and give him what he wanted. If he gave him 8mil + then i think we would be seeing a lot more holdouts going forward.
- BigDog912

He’s at it again. Oh boy

Value at his highest? Huh? .....

He’s locked up for 6 years and now has a chance to prove how good he can be. His value is far from his highest.

I love how much you hate the Leafs. You can try and tell me you are just talking hockey like every troll but for all of us here it’s extrmely obvious that you say what you “hope” because you can’t stand the leafs being good.

But keep commenting because we could use some comedy in here this morning

As a reply to this,
Nylander Contract Structure
2018: 10,277,778
2019-2024: 6,962,366

Is this how Dubas and his bookies were able to make it work for both Nylander and the Leafs? What are your thoughts on how the deal went down, how it’s structured and did he have to miss all those games for the deal to go down as it did?

I just wanted to comment on this question because I keep hearing how the Leafs signed him to a $6.96M a year contract (I am not referring to anyone here just in general) which is not the case even though that is how the cap average comes out for Seasons 2-6. Everyone is conveniently forgetting the $10.2M cap hit for this year. But to answer your question I do think he had to miss all that time for his contract to be structured like that. If he would have signed a 6 year $45M contract before the Season started his cap hit for All years would be $7.5M a year. Nylander waiting, although not ideal, worked out best for both parties because Nylander got his $7.5M and the Leafs got a lower Cap hit for all the years that actually matter.

Are you guys really trying to spin this off as leafs did good job here. This was terrible management by Dubas and leafs. They should of traded him in off season when his value was the highest. And you honestly think their is not going to be ill will between leafs and willy. This was an embarrassment for the league. The only positive is Dubas didn't give in and give him what he wanted. If he gave him 8mil + then i think we would be seeing a lot more holdouts going forward.
- BigDog912

Oh man Cant wait until your Sabres pay Skinner 9M per year

As a reply to this,
Nylander Contract Structure
2018: 10,277,778
2019-2024: 6,962,366

Is this how Dubas and his bookies were able to make it work for both Nylander and the Leafs? What are your thoughts on how the deal went down, how it’s structured and did he have to miss all those games for the deal to go down as it did?

I just wanted to comment on this question because I keep hearing how the Leafs signed him to a $6.96M a year contract (I am not referring to anyone here just in general) which is not the case even though that is how the cap average comes out for Seasons 2-6. Everyone is conveniently forgetting the $10.2M cap hit for this year. But to answer your question I do think he had to miss all that time for his contract to be structured like that. If he would have signed a 6 year $45M contract before the Season started his cap hit for All years would be $7.5M a year. Nylander waiting, although not ideal, worked out best for both parties because Nylander got his $7.5M and the Leafs got a lower Cap hit for all the years that actually matter.
- Sabrehagan

That's being reported EVERYWHERE.


We'll enjoy Nylander, you enjoy your big UFA signing, Kyle Okposo.

As a reply to this,
Nylander Contract Structure
2018: 10,277,778
2019-2024: 6,962,366

Is this how Dubas and his bookies were able to make it work for both Nylander and the Leafs? What are your thoughts on how the deal went down, how it’s structured and did he have to miss all those games for the deal to go down as it did?

I just wanted to comment on this question because I keep hearing how the Leafs signed him to a $6.96M a year contract (I am not referring to anyone here just in general) which is not the case even though that is how the cap average comes out for Seasons 2-6. Everyone is conveniently forgetting the $10.2M cap hit for this year. But to answer your question I do think he had to miss all that time for his contract to be structured like that. If he would have signed a 6 year $45M contract before the Season started his cap hit for All years would be $7.5M a year. Nylander waiting, although not ideal, worked out best for both parties because Nylander got his $7.5M and the Leafs got a lower Cap hit for all the years that actually matter.
- Sabrehagan

I think Nylander's camp was reaching for as much as possible. In the end, it is a 7.5 million/yr contract, which is probably right in the middle of where each out started out. Not surprised he sat out the whole time, in hindsight. He was seemingly willing to risk a trade to stand his ground.

Everyone says that he had no leverage, but ultimately subtracting his skill set from this team, especially this year, would be a big hit... considering they look like they're going to make a splash.

That's being reported EVERYWHERE.
- RogerRoeper

Also it doesn't matter because they're completely fine and under the cap.

That contract already increased his trade value.
- RogerRoeper

That is just not true at all. This was not good value signing. Look at the comparable contracts. He signed for more then Pastarnak, Johnny G, larkin, Drouin, Elhers, Hovart. It is better he is signed but they did have to overpay for 60 point winger.

Are you guys really trying to spin this off as leafs did good job here. This was terrible management by Dubas and leafs. They should of traded him in off season when his value was the highest. And you honestly think their is not going to be ill will between leafs and willy. This was an embarrassment for the league. The only positive is Dubas didn't give in and give him what he wanted. If he gave him 8mil + then i think we would be seeing a lot more holdouts going forward.
- BigDog912

Tell me again about over paying for Nylander when 40 point a season lard-ass Kyle (frank)en 30 year old slow as (frank) Okposo is making $6 million for 5 more years.

And how much is Terry Fungoola going to have to dish out for one head shot away from being an professional drooler Jeff Skinner next year?

Are you guys really trying to spin this off as leafs did good job here. This was terrible management by Dubas and leafs. They should of traded him in off season when his value was the highest. And you honestly think their is not going to be ill will between leafs and willy. This was an embarrassment for the league. The only positive is Dubas didn't give in and give him what he wanted. If he gave him 8mil + then i think we would be seeing a lot more holdouts going forward.
- BigDog912

We may have discussed trade options but they didn't work and obviously no team offered the Leafs anything to make our team better.

Willy signed the boys miss their buddy, I think its all hugs and kisses, we are a team of millennials and what you are saying is hurtful.

Why is this embarrassing? Recall Zigomanis-gate? We have our picks pal.

That is just not true at all. This was not good value signing. Look at the comparable contracts. He signed for more then Pastarnak, Johnny G, larkin, Drouin, Elhers, Hovart. It is better he is signed but they did have to overpay for 60 point winger.
- BigDog912

Do I have to teach you a math lesson AGAIN? Come on man.

(frank) this is just sad I hope you aren’t a grown man

I think Nylander's camp was reaching for as much as possible. In the end, it is a 7.5 million/yr contract, which is probably right in the middle of where each out started out. Not surprised he sat out the whole time, in hindsight. He was seemingly willing to risk a trade to stand his ground.

Everyone says that he had no leverage, but ultimately subtracting his skill set from this team, especially this year, would be a big hit... considering they look like they're going to make a splash.
- TheMussel

I dont care how much actual money he gets...give him 100 million cash right now...as a fan, it just matters to me that they can work with the cap hit # to get the other 3-7 (depending who you ask) better players on the team also signed ...so we can win cups

That is just not true at all. This was not good value signing. Look at the comparable contracts. He signed for more then Pastarnak, Johnny G, larkin, Drouin, Elhers, Hovart. It is better he is signed but they did have to overpay for 60 point winger.
- BigDog912

Yes it absolutely is true. Do you forget a majority of NHl teams can't afford to pay to the cap max? Arizona is so broke, they cheat everywhere to reach the cap floor (But will get rich in time to give Matthews a record deal I hear).

Once they pay that 8.3 million bonus next July, his actual $ is relatively low the next 5 years.

And BTW, some of those examples have not done what Nylander has. Drouin has 1 single 50 point season in 5 years. Nylander has 2 61 point seasons in his first 2 seasons.

You are also forgetting the cap went up 5 million last year. the Pastrynak deal is actually higher.

Are you guys really trying to spin this off as leafs did good job here. This was terrible management by Dubas and leafs. They should of traded him in off season when his value was the highest. And you honestly think their is not going to be ill will between leafs and willy. This was an embarrassment for the league. The only positive is Dubas didn't give in and give him what he wanted. If he gave him 8mil + then i think we would be seeing a lot more holdouts going forward.
- BigDog912

Pretty rich coming from a fan of the Buffalo Sabres...who gave Jack Eichel 8 x 10M when he neither had the stats or leverage to command such a contract. Nylander has actually outscored Eichel in his first two years in the league.

Dubas did alright. We shall see who the deal stacks up with upcoming RFA deals.

That is just not true at all. This was not good value signing. Look at the comparable contracts. He signed for more then Pastarnak, Johnny G, larkin, Drouin, Elhers, Hovart. It is better he is signed but they did have to overpay for 60 point winger.
- BigDog912

He's beter then every player on that list minus Pastrnak/Gaudrea who signed a while ago when the cap was a bit lower.

Also, if you want to look at bad contract signings, look no further then then your Own Jack ECHL. So overpaid. Nylander is closer to ECHL then ECHL is to Matthews