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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Dec 3 @ 9:08 AM ET
Trade nylander who is a good young winger (who just signed) for a good Rfa winger?

What part of that makes the tiniest bit of sense? Why trade nylander? Why trade him for a winger? Why trade him for an Rfa?

- burn

Ugh jesus.
He simply means a cheaper decent winger.
Maybe one that scores 50pts for 4m per....dunno.
But its not difficult to see what he was referring to.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Dec 3 @ 9:12 AM ET
Trade everyone.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Dec 3 @ 9:13 AM ET
You can enjoy Nylander on Leafs for one last season
After that, it's cap crunch time.

Hopefully he'll put up great numbers - so we can deal him for another good winger.

I'm not a big fan of Gardiner, and think Nylander adds more to the team than Jakey...
However, I feel that Dubas and Babcock might want to keep Gardiner over Nylander, and trade Nylander for a good young RFA winger..

I hope for Nylander he'll have a good first few games, if not, some Leafs' fans will start booing him quickly - nobody needs that..

- plantheparade


TRADE NYLANDER FOR A GOOD YOUNG WINGER Y'ALL
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Dec 3 @ 9:15 AM ET
2018-12-03 Tyler Biggs (F) Nottingham Panthers to Unknown

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Dec 3 @ 9:18 AM ET
2018-12-03 Tyler Biggs (F) Nottingham Panthers to Unknown

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

- AdamFrench




Truck U Lence...

Burke said Saturday that the Leafs were not ready this year to take a run at the Cup...


So, the Leafs are going to WIN....
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Dec 3 @ 9:18 AM ET
2018-12-03 Tyler Biggs (F) Nottingham Panthers to Unknown

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

- AdamFrench

that's like getting cut from house league
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Dec 3 @ 9:21 AM ET
Truck U Lence...

Burke said Saturday that the Leafs were not ready this year to take a run at the Cup...


So, the Leafs are going to WIN....

- bixll

They pick up a quality 4/5 dman at the tdl, maybe even a top 9 forward with some bite with andersen playing how he is.....they could go real deep.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Dec 3 @ 9:22 AM ET
that's like getting cut from house league
- daeth

I wonder how much they pay? I can't imagine you'd make enough to live off since the AHL pays peanuts and it's a "real" league.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Dec 3 @ 9:23 AM ET
People were saying kap could replace nylander (it was much more than 1 person) after kaps first 10 game. Ridiculous. I believe coontlander has a higher ceiling.
Nylander won the contract battle, 4g's shy of 7 is not a win for dubas, but dubas couldnt let him sit.
Nylander will play all season and it will be nice to see our full forward line up during that time. Actually it will be great, but i could see willie being moved in a few years time or kap plays himself into a higher cap hit and will get moved as a result.
But this year, we move pics to fill holes at the deadline and load up. This is our best chance for thr cup, hopefully dubas makes a run.
It should be fun.

- Fakepartofme


TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Dec 3 @ 9:23 AM ET
2018-12-03 Tyler Biggs (F) Nottingham Panthers to Unknown

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

- AdamFrench


Man... some of those players that went after biggs in the draft.

Namestnikov
Kucherov
Saad
Gaudreau
Manson
Pageau
Trochek
Jenner
Palat


anyone really
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Dec 3 @ 9:28 AM ET
People were saying kap could replace nylander (it was much more than 1 person) after kaps first 10 game. Ridiculous. I believe coontlander has a higher ceiling.
Nylander won the contract battle, 4g's shy of 7 is not a win for dubas, but dubas couldnt let him sit.
Nylander will play all season and it will be nice to see our full forward line up during that time. Actually it will be great, but i could see willie being moved in a few years time or kap plays himself into a higher cap hit and will get moved as a result.
But this year, we move pics to fill holes at the deadline and load up. This is our best chance for thr cup, hopefully dubas makes a run.
It should be fun.

- Fakepartofme


Not exactly right Nylander won the battle, but he ended up with very little extra at the end of the day.

He Lost about $2 million for sitting for 24 games - just as a rough estimate $7 x 24/82 is about $2 million the difference over the life of the contract between $7 and $6.5 is $3 million, so he gained $1 million over 6 years - about $167,000 per season. The actual amount of loss is based on days missed not games but this is only an estimate.

What he did was for that very small extra amount (frank)ed the team for $500K of cap space for 6 seasons. You could say it was a win for Willie, I'm not convinced of that. It was a loss for sure for the Leafs cap space. Don't know how Dubas could have handled this differently
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Dec 3 @ 9:28 AM ET
Man... some of those players that went after biggs in the draft.

Namestnikov
Kucherov
Saad
Gaudreau
Manson
Pageau
Trochek
Jenner
Palat


anyone really

- TheMussel

i seem to recall everyone in here wanting saad at the time
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Dec 3 @ 9:28 AM ET
I wonder how much they pay? I can't imagine you'd make enough to live off since the AHL pays peanuts and it's a "real" league.
- AdamFrench

i would imagine it's the type of league you play in because you love hockey, not so much because you want to get rich
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Dec 3 @ 9:28 AM ET
i seem to recall everyone in here wanting saad at the time
- daeth

I wanted Kucherov.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Dec 3 @ 9:30 AM ET
I wanted Kucherov.
- AdamFrench

they really couldnt afford nylander if they had him too
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Dec 3 @ 9:31 AM ET
they really couldnt afford nylander if they had him too
- daeth


good point
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Dec 3 @ 9:32 AM ET
Is Nylander traded yet?
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Dec 3 @ 9:33 AM ET
I wanted Kucherov.
- AdamFrench

you also thought DeLaRose was a future all star
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Dec 3 @ 9:33 AM ET
they really couldnt afford nylander if they had him too
- daeth



Burke is ahead of the curve, drafting busts so you dont have to pay players that become really good.

plantheparade
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hyman MVP
Joined: 07.04.2018

Dec 3 @ 9:36 AM ET
Not exactly right Nylander won the battle, but he ended up with very little extra at the end of the day.

He Lost about $2 million for sitting for 24 games - just as a rough estimate $7 x 24/82 is about $2 million the difference over the life of the contract between $7 and $6.5 is $3 million, so he gained $1 million over 6 years - about $167,000 per season. The actual amount of loss is based on days missed not games but this is only an estimate.

What he did was for that very small extra amount (frank)ed the team for $500K of cap space for 6 seasons. You could say it was a win for Willie, I'm not convinced of that. It was a loss for sure for the Leafs cap space. Don't know how Dubas could have handled this differently

- winsix


Of course Nylander won the salary battle - he got more than he deserved, and without virtually losing any money for sitting out.
If Leafs would have signed him to this deal before the season, would have had more additional caphit this season's trade deadline - nothing won by Leafs.
It is quite clear that Leafs will have to deal Nylander July 2nd - can't have Marner and Matthews sitting out in similar fashion as Nylander next season (bc Leafs wouldn't even be able to fit new contract under the tight cap next season).

daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Dec 3 @ 9:36 AM ET
Burke is ahead of the curve, drafting busts so you dont have to pay players that become really good.
- senstroll

what a genius!

every other team will be stuck having to pay for their elite players while the leafs will have tons of cap with all their garbage players.

cant believe nobody else figured it out first
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Dec 3 @ 9:38 AM ET
Is Nylander traded yet?
- Symba007



He's on the blocks for the trade deadline.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Dec 3 @ 9:38 AM ET
Of course Nylander won the salary battle - he got more than he deserved, and without virtually losing any money for sitting out.
If Leafs would have signed him to this deal before the season, would have had more additional caphit this season's trade deadline - nothing won by Leafs.
It is quite clear that Leafs will have to deal Nylander July 2nd - can't have Marner and Matthews sitting out in similar fashion as Nylander next season (bc Leafs wouldn't even be able to fit new contract under the tight cap next season).

- plantheparade


Counter point.. you are wrong
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Dec 3 @ 9:39 AM ET
you also thought DeLaRose was a future all star
- Symba007

Captain Sweden and Captain American fell on their faces.
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Dec 3 @ 9:39 AM ET
Is today the day leafs finally waive marincin?
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