Too bad for the Loafs - overpaid by about $1M - still didn't fix the "D". I can't wait for the implosion in TO next summer when the have to start jettisoning players / contracts without a cup. Can you say 52 and counting ?
- Iago

I was thinking the same thing. Imagine what's going to happen once they pay Matthews 10+ mil and Marner...

The cap is coming ...

Will Ny the Holdout Guy

- BeadyEyedDouche

Probably not. The salary cap is likely to go up and because of Horton's contract, the Leafs should be able to make due.

I'd be curious to see what the cap penalty for buying out Marleau is vs. the cap penalty for exceeding the salary cap in the summer is (and then going back under the cap after Horton is allowed on LTIR)
- torfc23

Easy to figure out the Marleau buyout, 3/4 of 6.25 spread out over 2 years... so 2.5 million or so on the cap for the next 2 season

Willie won
- Nucker101

That's less than Pasta's deal with the bump in salary cap put in.

Easy to figure out the Marleau buyout, 3/4 of 6.25 spread out over 2 years... so 2.5 million or so on the cap for the next 2 season
- obie

So a savings of 3.75 next year at the cost of 2.5 of dead space in the year after. Honestly the cap penalty for being over with Horton until LTIR might be better.

That's less than Pasta's deal with the bump in salary cap put in.
- RogerRoeper

Yeah, but he very little leverage, skipped his "bridge deal" despite not being a franchise player, and sets himself up for another big payday down the road. Not bad for him.


Some guys take the bridge deal for 2 years and then sign their 6-7 year big contract, but then they don't get the 2nd big payday since they start declining when 31 or 32 years old.


It's all about maximizing career earnings.

Yeah, but he very little leverage, skipped his "bridge deal" despite not being a franchise player, and sets himself up for another big payday down the road. Not bad for him.


Some guys take the bridge deal for 2 years and then sign their 6-7 year big contract, but then they don't get the 2nd big payday since they start declining when 31 or 32 years old.


It's all about maximizing career earnings.
- Nucker101

Everyone will be skipping the bridge deal now. That's the new NHL.

I was thinking the same thing. Imagine what's going to happen once they pay Matthews 10+ mil and Marner...

The cap is coming ...
- RedRevenge

Wait..the Leafs should have just traded Nylander for Keith...problem solved!
LMFAO

Butt hurt fans are the best.

I predicted he'd sign for 6 years 7 million. Pretty close to that.

A fair contract.
- RedRevenge

You also suggested Keith for Nylander. You

Too bad for the Loafs - overpaid by about $1M - still didn't fix the "D". I can't wait for the implosion in TO next summer when the have to start jettisoning players / contracts without a cup. Can you say 52 and counting ?
- Iago

I mean nothing is stopping them from trading him. He can be traded at any time. If they want to trade him they can. If they spend most the game with posession you can probably survive without improving the D

You also suggested Keith for Nylander. You
- TheCat29

That guy is just dopey and so obvious!!

Leafs will have to let Gardiner go but will be fine...have some nice pieces coming up from the Marlies and Dermott is also gonna be a nice replacement.....

Everyone will be skipping the bridge deal now. That's the new NHL.
- RogerRoeper

It's kind of crazy though. Everyone knows GM's are afraid to offer sheet RFA's so the GM's should hold more leverage. Especially in the Leafs situation where they were playing just fine without Willie. Very different situation than Calgary trying to play without Gaudreau a few years ago or the Canucks trying to play without Horvat last year, those teams need those players more than the Leafs need Nylander.

Yeah, but he very little leverage, skipped his "bridge deal" despite not being a franchise player, and sets himself up for another big payday down the road. Not bad for him.


Some guys take the bridge deal for 2 years and then sign their 6-7 year big contract, but then they don't get the 2nd big payday since they start declining when 31 or 32 years old.


It's all about maximizing career earnings.
- Nucker101

Not just that. Players feel like a lockout is coming. They want to protect themself if that happens. A guy like Nylander gets screwed hard if a lockout happens and he doesnt get a deal like this. Sure you are fine if you are JT and collected an 11 million dollar bonus but for guys making 500k, it is a huge hit.

Not just that. Players feel like a lockout is coming. They want to protect themself if that happens. A guy like Nylander gets screwed hard if a lockout happens and he doesnt get a deal like this. Sure you are fine if you are JT and collected an 11 million dollar bonus but for guys making 500k, it is a huge hit.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Nylander probably could have had this deal on day 1....

In the end, the hold out was just stupid - there was no way he was going to get that reported $8M+ deal and the Leafs got the $ to where they needed it to be.

Time to move on.....Leafs lineup is crazy good.

Nylander probably could have had this deal on day 1....

In the end, the hold out was just stupid - there was no way he was going to get that reported $8M+ deal and the Leafs got the $ to where they needed it to be.

Time to move on.....Leafs lineup is crazy good.
- Cooshie

I thought the Leafs didn't wanna offer him $6.5m?

Thankfully this drama queen thing is over

Wait..the Leafs should have just traded Nylander for Keith...problem solved!
LMFAO

Butt hurt fans are the best.
- Cooshie

I suggested a solution to your problem (and future problems). Signing Nylander to 7 million is a loss since they originally offered him 6x6. Nylander won the deal.

My statement still stands. Cap Hell awaits...

I suggested a solution to your problem (and future problems). Signing Nylander to 7 million is a loss since they originally offered him 6x6. Nylander won the deal.

My statement still stands. Cap Hell awaits...
- RedRevenge

You also suggested Keith for Nylander. You
- TheCat29

I offered a solution to your problems. The leafs gave into Nylander's demands!

I suggested a solution to your problem (and future problems). Signing Nylander to 7 million is a loss since they originally offered him 6x6. Nylander won the deal.

My statement still stands. Cap Hell awaits...
- RedRevenge

Any good team has cap issues, leafs will be fine.

I offered a solution to your problems. The leafs gave into Nylander's demands!
- RedRevenge

Thats a terrible trade, unless youre adding?

Probably not. The salary cap is likely to go up and because of Horton's contract, the Leafs should be able to make due.

I'd be curious to see what the cap penalty for buying out Marleau is vs. the cap penalty for exceeding the salary cap in the summer is (and then going back under the cap after Horton is allowed on LTIR)
- torfc23

I've heard his gloves are starting make him itch, but has always fancied a job in the Leafs player development department

Thats a terrible trade, unless youre adding?
- Garnie

You don't understand leverage. The leafs had two choices.
1) Give into Nylander's demands.
2) Trade him away.

It was clear that the Leafs weren't going to get full value for Nylander, so they picked option 1.

Yes I know Keith for Nylander is an unfair deal, but sometimes trades are unfair when your back is to the wall.

The Hawks gave up 2 second rounders for a guy who missed the entire season. They ended up winning the cup that year...

You don't understand leverage. The leafs had two choices.
1) Give into Nylander's demands.
2) Trade him away.

It was clear that the Leafs weren't going to get full value for Nylander, so they picked option 1.

Yes I know Keith for Nylander is an unfair deal, but sometimes trades are unfair when your back is to the wall.

The Hawks gave up 2 second rounders for a guy who missed the entire season. They ended up winning the cup that year...
- RedRevenge

Yeah,I think there's about 25 teams the Leafs should approach before Chicago.