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Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Dec 1 @ 5:59 PM ET
Will leave some cap space for the Leafs to offer sheet Dahlin.
- BetterCallSaul


difference is JB won't let it get to that point
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Dec 1 @ 5:59 PM ET
Will leave some cap space for the Leafs to offer sheet Dahlin.
- BetterCallSaul


WEAK...
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 1 @ 6:09 PM ET
I wish more teams had the balls to make offer sheets
- BeadyEyedDouche

I don't think it's simply a matter of "having the balls". I think it's a matter of cap management. In order to get a player to sign an offersheet and get the team with his rights to walk away is to offer him a contract much more than he's worth. And if you're going to pay a player much more than he's worth, you're most likely going to screw up your cap situation. And there are very few players worth doing that for. The aforementioned Matthews might be one of them, though.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 1 @ 6:13 PM ET
Does Evander Kane score anymore?
- sbroads24

more then you or myself

H6
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Dec 1 @ 6:15 PM ET
difference is JB won't let it get to that point
- Lunaion

Oh, ok. Never mind then.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 1 @ 6:15 PM ET
Will leave some cap space for the Leafs to offer sheet Dahlin.
- BetterCallSaul

I can't wait for Kim to dump your a$$
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 1 @ 6:17 PM ET
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Dec 1 @ 6:18 PM ET
I can't wait for Kim to dump your a$$
- homiedclown

Words can hurt.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 1 @ 6:22 PM ET
Words can hurt.
- BetterCallSaul

so can her legs

BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Dec 1 @ 7:53 PM ET
Will leave some cap space for the Leafs to offer sheet Dahlin.
- BetterCallSaul

lol dude sure
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Dec 1 @ 7:55 PM ET
I don't think it's simply a matter of "having the balls". I think it's a matter of cap management. In order to get a player to sign an offersheet and get the team with his rights to walk away is to offer him a contract much more than he's worth. And if you're going to pay a player much more than he's worth, you're most likely going to screw up your cap situation. And there are very few players worth doing that for. The aforementioned Matthews might be one of them, though.
- buffalofan19

I'd say it's more about strapping the other team down with an offer they HAVE to match so that THEY have cap issues going forward.

It's a dirty play but man f uck the leafs/sens/habs/bruins
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 1 @ 8:11 PM ET
I'd say it's more about strapping the other team down with an offer they HAVE to match so that THEY have cap issues going forward.

It's a dirty play but man f uck the leafs/sens/habs/bruins

- BeadyEyedDouche

You're also simply doing that team's negotiating for them, which, to me, is a waste of time.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Dec 1 @ 8:23 PM ET
You're also simply doing that team's negotiating for them, which, to me, is a waste of time.
- buffalofan19


Plus you have to pay the lawyers a few hundred dollars to draw up the contract. Yes, that's seriously something they think about. The cheap (frank)s.
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Dec 1 @ 9:14 PM ET
I cant complain but sometimes i still do.
Life’s been good to me so far.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Dec 1 @ 9:18 PM ET
You're also simply doing that team's negotiating for them, which, to me, is a waste of time.
- buffalofan19


It would be fun to see Toronto squirm if a team offers Matthews the max salary allowed for 7 years.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Dec 1 @ 9:42 PM ET
I cant complain but sometimes i still do.
Life’s been good to me so far.

- seedy

walsh?
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 1 @ 9:45 PM ET
Plus you have to pay the lawyers a few hundred dollars to draw up the contract. Yes, that's seriously something they think about. The cheap (frank)s.
- Wetbandit1

Given that these are 7 or 8 figure contracts, they're more like a few to several thousand dollars, but your point still stands.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Dec 1 @ 10:00 PM ET
Given that these are 7 or 8 figure contracts, they're more like a few to several thousand dollars, but your point still stands.
- buffalofan19

What's craziest of all is a lot of the 'good' agents in the league are also lawyers, and they have more clients than they can count on their hands, and what do they get like 5-10% of a player's salary?

They make about as much money as a player does.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 1 @ 10:28 PM ET
It is likely or very possible both Sharks and Blues picks go to 2020
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Dec 1 @ 11:06 PM ET
Given that these are 7 or 8 figure contracts, they're more like a few to several thousand dollars, but your point still stands.
- buffalofan19


I remember reading about it and it was cheaper than you'd think.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Dec 1 @ 11:08 PM ET
What's craziest of all is a lot of the 'good' agents in the league are also lawyers, and they have more clients than they can count on their hands, and what do they get like 5-10% of a player's salary?

They make about as much money as a player does.

- BeadyEyedDouche


3-6% after escrow apparently.

I remember when this came out. Oh, the outrage.

https://thehockeynews.com...ary-not-as-much-you-think
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Dec 1 @ 11:18 PM ET
Will leave some cap space for the Leafs to offer sheet Dahlin.
- BetterCallSaul

Bitter much
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Dec 1 @ 11:38 PM ET
Bitter much
- SABRES 89

In no way. If Matthews signs an offer sheet the Leafs can't match then I would imagine that would be fair game for them to do with a player on another team. I used Dahlin as an example because you're a Sabres fan, so it's relevant.

Matthews, Dahlin, Laine, Connor, Marner, Rantanen, Chabot. All good young players that would be open season for offer sheets once one signs a contract their rights holders can't match.

Barzal, too. And Pettersson.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Dec 2 @ 12:04 AM ET
3-6% after escrow apparently.

I remember when this came out. Oh, the outrage.

https://thehockeynews.com...ary-not-as-much-you-think

- Wetbandit1


$50,000/yr for housing and $25,000/yr for a car is pretty luxurious.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Dec 2 @ 12:09 AM ET
In no way. If Matthews signs an offer sheet the Leafs can't match then I would imagine that would be fair game for them to do with a player on another team. I used Dahlin as an example because you're a Sabres fan, so it's relevant.

Matthews, Dahlin, Laine, Connor, Marner, Rantanen, Chabot. All good young players that would be open season for offer sheets once one signs a contract their rights holders can't match.

Barzal, too. And Pettersson.

- BetterCallSaul


And it's kind of dumb to roll the dice to let a player go to RFA. Or a ROR or Weber offersheet could get dumped on you and you have no choice but to sign it and then that player is very overpaid. Just because it worked out well, so far, for the Preds doesn't mean they were smart for signing that stupid offersheet in the first place. And if he retires before the deal is up they're (frank)ed. But he'd probably get an allergy before it came to that.
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