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Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Nov 29 @ 10:48 PM ET
That's ridiculous. It's a bad deal. Poorly thought out.
- MJL


Ok then I'll change the deal so it works for the Flyers better:

Rubtsov for NYI 2nd round pick in 2019

Now the Flyers don't get a 34 year old goalie and they get value.
DraftandDestroy
Arizona Coyotes
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Joined: 11.15.2016

Nov 29 @ 10:49 PM ET
We need Matt Duchene, damn he’s playing well this year!!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 29 @ 10:49 PM ET
Ha! Biron was a pending FA. Good catch again
- AllInForFlyers


I'm surprised I remembered that. I'm usually the guy mis-remembering . I think it was a 2nd round pick.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 29 @ 10:50 PM ET
Ok then I'll change the deal so it works for the Flyers better:

Rubtsov for NYI 2nd round pick in 2019

Now the Flyers don't get a 34 year old goalie and they get value.

- Glak18


That's a bad deal also.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Nov 29 @ 10:50 PM ET
I qualified it as best I could, but at some point, trends show a lot about what you are

Homer as GM showed that he actually kinda liked youngish players, one or two studs on the back end that he was willing to pay to acquire

- AllInForFlyers


So why did they fire Hextall?
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Nov 29 @ 10:51 PM ET
That's a bad deal also.
- MJL


I just asked a cheez-it cracker if it was fair, it agreed.

Cheez-It > MJL
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 29 @ 10:52 PM ET
There is no track record. He went for goalies that other teams didnt want. Bufallo didnt want Biron, he was their backup. Bryzgalov was the big FA goalie that year. Columbus didnt want Mason especially after getting Bob from us. Even Ottawa didnt want Emery. He specifically targetted these guys because they were available. What goalies under 30 are currently available? Two and that is an assumption. The goalies available are:

Bob(presumably)
Howard
Talbot
Quick
Ryan Miller
Darling
Crawford
Luongo
Schneider
Anderson
Allen(Maybe)
Murray(Maybe)

Allen and Murray are the only young goalies who might not even be on the market. Can you honestly say either of those two would be an upgrade over what we got? I cant see the Blues trading Allen without them acquiring another goalie. Murray is speculation on rumours because he has struggled.

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


I'm saying if Elliott is back soon, they may not even go for a goalie during the season. It might wait until the offseason

Yeah, they're pissed now about where they are. But if Elliott's back soon, I can see them doing three things more easily than I see them acquiring an aging goalie:

1. Riding Elliott and seeing if Neuvirth can back up
2. Riding Elliott and seeing if Stolarz can back up
3. IF ELIMINATED EARLY, bringing Hart up for a few games for evaluation at the NHL level
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Nov 29 @ 10:55 PM ET
I just asked a cheez-it cracker if it was fair, it agreed.

Cheez-It > MJL

- Glak18

That’s just a patently unfair fight though.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 29 @ 10:55 PM ET
So why did they fire Hextall?
- Glak18


They fired Hextall because they were in last place and he wouldn't use draft capital or young players to bolster the roster -- but that doesn't mean they are all of a sudden going to trade those young players for old players

Homer cut his teeth in scouting and the Flyers under him had few problems keeping young players on the roster -- Sbisa made the team as an 18-year-old. Couts didn't go back to junior.

If Homer has a say, he is more likely to piss people off by wanting to see Hart play a few games than making a trade for Jimmy Howard
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 29 @ 10:58 PM ET
We need Matt Duchene, damn he’s playing well this year!!
- DraftandDestroy

we don't need him
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Nov 29 @ 11:03 PM ET
They fired Hextall because they were in last place and he wouldn't use draft capital or young players to bolster the roster -- but that doesn't mean they are all of a sudden going to trade those young players for old players

Homer cut his teeth in scouting and the Flyers under him had few problems keeping young players on the roster -- Sbisa made the team as an 18-year-old.

If Homer has a say, he is more likely to piss people off by wanting to see Hart play a few games than making a trade for Jimmy Howard

- AllInForFlyers


Is this SSB? Geezus look at these statements. Such hard hitting facts not many people know. Then ends with a strong guaranteed statement like you are inside his head.

P.S. I know it's not SSB, there is actually sentence structure and you didn't have last autocorrect with lady (has any one figured out how that would ever be possible?)
steelydan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 04.16.2009

Nov 29 @ 11:04 PM ET
Ok then I'll change the deal so it works for the Flyers better:

Rubtsov for NYI 2nd round pick in 2019

Now the Flyers don't get a 34 year old goalie and they get value.

- Glak18


This Howard trade offer is terrible. Rubstov was a 1st rounder from 2 years ago. The book isn't written on him yet. Howard is 34 and on an expiring contract. It's a bad trade. Maybe your Uncle Jimmy can just sign here as a FA next year?
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Nov 29 @ 11:06 PM ET
This Howard trade offer is terrible. Rubstov was a 1st rounder from 2 years ago. The book isn't written on him yet. Howard is 34 and on an expiring contract. It's a bad trade. Maybe your Uncle Jimmy can just sign here as a FA next year?
- steelydan


A first-rounder!!!!!! Superstar in the making! It's like a mystery bag...no one knows.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 29 @ 11:08 PM ET
Is this SSB? Geezus look at these statements. Such hard hitting facts not many people know. Then ends with a strong guaranteed statement like you are inside his head.

P.S. I know it's not SSB, there is actually sentence structure and you didn't have last autocorrect with lady (has any one figured out how that would ever be possible?)

- Glak18


I'm not saying you dd or didn't know it. I'm pointing it out that Homer came up on the scouting side and if anything, has shown a preference for younger players

It's no different than if someone says they "know" Hextall holds onto assets and prefers players to develop in the minors. It's not making a strong, guaranteed statement in the regard like you're telling people stuff they don't know. It's simply pointing out the logic behind what I'm saying
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Nov 29 @ 11:08 PM ET
This Howard trade offer is terrible. Rubstov was a 1st rounder from 2 years ago. The book isn't written on him yet. Howard is 34 and on an expiring contract. It's a bad trade. Maybe your Uncle Jimmy can just sign here as a FA next year?
- steelydan


Maybe, maybe not. Sign and trade is a guarantee where as FA is a bidding war. There is no guarantee you will land him. You can likely negotiate a better cap hit as well without having to outbid teams.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Nov 29 @ 11:13 PM ET
Maybe, maybe not. Sign and trade is a guarantee where as FA is a bidding war. There is no guarantee you will land him. You can likely negotiate a better cap hit as well without having to outbid teams.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


There is only one person that has commented so far that I know for sure who has actually watched Howard this year. If you are one of the people who has said, but he is 34 you are not one of them.

Odd how all the casuals pop out of the weeds to regurgitate the age of Howard, while pages prior people were asking about getting Craig Anderson. The humanity.
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Nov 29 @ 11:47 PM ET
There is only one person that has commented so far that I know for sure who has actually watched Howard this year. If you are one of the people who has said, but he is 34 you are not one of them.

Odd how all the casuals pop out of the weeds to regurgitate the age of Howard, while pages prior people were asking about getting Craig Anderson. The humanity.

- Glak18


Certainly not against getting Howard. Just don't think we need to give up Rubstov to do it.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 30 @ 12:41 AM ET
There is only one person that has commented so far that I know for sure who has actually watched Howard this year. If you are one of the people who has said, but he is 34 you are not one of them.
- Glak18


He's not leaving DET. You really need to move on.

arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Nov 30 @ 12:47 AM ET
Good grief
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Nov 30 @ 4:23 AM ET
Good grief
- arichardson22

no it's JoeGrief
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Nov 30 @ 6:43 AM ET
Hextall news conference today???? In his basement???
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Nov 30 @ 7:12 AM ET
There is only one person that has commented so far that I know for sure who has actually watched Howard this year. If you are one of the people who has said, but he is 34 you are not one of them.

Odd how all the casuals pop out of the weeds to regurgitate the age of Howard, while pages prior people were asking about getting Craig Anderson. The humanity.

- Glak18



Howard is the only reason I feel Detroit is winning some games.

hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Nov 30 @ 7:39 AM ET
Hextall news conference today???? In his basement???
- Just5

Isn't his cousin some some reporter or something? Idk what he really has to say right now.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 30 @ 7:52 AM ET
There is only one person that has commented so far that I know for sure who has actually watched Howard this year. If you are one of the people who has said, but he is 34 you are not one of them.

Odd how all the casuals pop out of the weeds to regurgitate the age of Howard, while pages prior people were asking about getting Craig Anderson. The humanity.

- Glak18


You don't know for sure what anyone has done. Strawman.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Nov 30 @ 8:28 AM ET
Liane has scored 13 goals in his last 6 games. Jeeeeesus
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