Hexy will address the media tmrw per twitter

Thanks, I didn't realize injured players could be traded.

I wasn't feeling good about what I'd heard about him prior to this season, but hard to want to be down on him when he was scoring over a point a game in the AHL before he went down this season. Its a shame he had such a major injury
- pinkfloydfreak

When was he ever a PPG player in the AHL?

Good Lord, people -- I don't mind trading prospects or young players, but not for 34-year-old goalies!

The Flyers aren't going to make stupid moves -- even when Homer made trades, he didn't lose his freaking mind all the time.

He traded Carter and Richards for packages of young players. He traded JVR for Schenn -- Schenn was an '08, JVR an '07.

We can certainly not like Versteeg and Kubina being acquired, but those were for picks.

He got Mason for a pick.

Hell, even the Pronger deal brought a youngish Joffrey Lupul with him.

I'm not saying dudes aren't getting traded -- someone likely is. But Homer has no track record to speak of for trading young for old, and I would argue after watching his tenure that Homer actually prefers younger players unless they are fairly exceptional, like a Pronger

When was he ever a PPG player in the AHL?
- Glak18

My bad, thought i heard he had 14 points in 10 games before he got hurt. Just looked it up and saw 10 points in 14 games. Still, that looks like a good start on paper for his first pro season.

If Fletcher would get the job. I don't think it will be a bad thing. He should provide a conservative approach, but not so inflexible as Hextall and hopefully won't trade the farm away. He had the guts to pull off the big trades (Parise-Suter) up against stiff competition. He had a long run with the Wild, meaning he is probably generally liked, and "plays well with others". The Wild did well under him. He may have more ability to make more moves at Philly (Comcast dollars).

If this happens, I wonder if a Zito or Hunter would take an Assistant GM role under Fletcher? Wasn't Pryor basically an Assistant GM... the position is open.
- leon neon

For me I'd prefer to see Zito as the GM and maybe Fletcher as an asstGM who Do to can turn to when he needs support.
That would be ideal to me. The young eyes of Zito, and the advice and help from Fletcher.
Not sure Fletcher would be ok as an AGM but it's gotta be a bigger paycheck than he takes home right now
For me...That's my best case scenario. I don't think Fletcher did anything special for Minnesota. Pariseand suter were both going there regardless. He lost tuch and haula becauae of bad contacts...i don't rhink his evaluation of players is accurate and his drafting is very sub par. And when he drafts talent he trades it for terds. He has some milbury in him and that terrifies me. I'd offer him an asst position. Is he doesn't want to be part of something good then bye felicia Fletcher!

Good Lord, people -- I don't mind trading prospects or young players, but not for 34-year-old goalies!

The Flyers aren't going to make stupid moves -- even when Homer made trades, he didn't lose his freaking mind all the time.

He traded Carter and Richards for packages of young players. He traded JVR for Schenn -- Schenn was an '08, JVR an '07.

We can certainly not like Versteeg and Kubina being acquired, but those were for picks.

He got Mason for a pick.

Hell, even the Pronger deal brought a youngish Joffrey Lupul with him.

I'm not saying dudes aren't getting traded -- someone likely is. But Homer has no track record to speak of for trading young for old, and I would argue after watching his tenure that Homer actually prefers younger players unless they are fairly exceptional, like a Pronger
- AllInForFlyers

Tank with me sweet cheeks. Harvest time come the draft and pick top 5. Then make the blitz moves to contend.

Good Lord, people -- I don't mind trading prospects or young players, but not for 34-year-old goalies!

The Flyers aren't going to make stupid moves -- even when Homer made trades, he didn't lose his freaking mind all the time.

He traded Carter and Richards for packages of young players. He traded JVR for Schenn -- Schenn was an '08, JVR an '07.

We can certainly not like Versteeg and Kubina being acquired, but those were for picks.

Hell, even the Pronger deal brought a youngish Joffrey Lupul with him.

I'm not saying dudes aren't getting traded -- someone is. But Homer has no track record to speak of for trading young for old
- AllInForFlyers

So basically what you are saying is the Flyers won't be trading for a goaltender this year?

Check all these goalies off the list:
Rask (Bos) 31
Smith (Ari) 36
Crawford (Chi) 33
Varlamov (Col) 30
Bobrovski (Cbj) 30
Bishop (Dal) 32
Howard (Det) 34
Talbot (Edm) 31
Luongo (Fla) 39
Quick (LA) 32
Dubnyk (Min) 32
Price (Mon) 31
Rinne (Nsh) 36
Schneider (NJ) 32
Greiss (NYI) 32
Lundqvist (NYR) 36
Anderson (Ott) 37
MA Fleury (VGK) 34

Good Lord, people -- I don't mind trading prospects or young players, but not for 34-year-old goalies!

The Flyers aren't going to make stupid moves -- even when Homer made trades, he didn't lose his freaking mind all the time.

He traded Carter and Richards for packages of young players. He traded JVR for Schenn -- Schenn was an '08, JVR an '07.

We can certainly not like Versteeg and Kubina being acquired, but those were for picks.

He got Mason for a pick.

Hell, even the Pronger deal brought a youngish Joffrey Lupul with him.

I'm not saying dudes aren't getting traded -- someone likely is. But Homer has no track record to speak of for trading young for old, and I would argue after watching his tenure that Homer actually prefers younger players unless they are fairly exceptional, like a Pronger
- AllInForFlyers

The age of a goalie is not relevant if they can provide us elite goaltending for at least 5 years. I would take Quick in a heart beat as long as the price is reasonable. Hart is not coming soon. People need to realize that. He has to grow his game in the minors and then grow his game as a backup in the NHL. There is no guarantee even then Hart will Pan out. We need a goalie longterm. If Hart is ready to take over, we can adjust then.

Tank with me sweet cheeks. Harvest time come the draft and pick top 5. Then make the blitz moves to contend.
- flyer_nutter

I think that is a possibility -- I understand that people have reservations about Homer. The last few years of his tenure weren't as good as his first few.

But for the life of me, I sincerely don't understand how people can look at his tenure and not see the clear truth:

1. He (frank)ed up with Kubina because they were in a bind after Pronger got hurt. He overpaid and lost the deal significantly.

2. He moves on from players when he thinks they're stale, non-productive or too old, which is why Gagne got traded, Mike Knuble wasn't re-signed, Lupul got moved, Carter and Richards got moved

3. He is willing to take chances on younger players who haven't quite figured it out where they were, which is how he got Coburn and Mason

He wasn't the greatest GM ever. But FFS, he's not gonna flip Rubstov for an old-ass goalie. There is nothing in his history that suggests that

No, you keep saying over payment, which means the value of Rubstov is greater than Howard and a 2nd round pick. Not sure how maybe, just maybe a top 200 NHL prospect is worth so much.
- Glak18

Yes it is. Who cares how he is rated. You've completely eliminated the possibility of Howard being cheaper to acquire. It's a bad deal..Cant spin out of that.

Yes it is. Who cares how he is rated. You've completely eliminated the possibility of Howard being cheaper to acquire. It's a bad deal..Cant spin out of that.
- MJL

It's not a bad deal, you are just too stubborn to realize Rubtsov is not that heavily regarded as a prospect . I would hate to think what you think Laberge is worth. Maybe the Flyers could trade Grey Carey for a top 4 defenseman....wooooooo.

So basically what you are saying is the Flyers won't be trading for a goaltender this year?

Check all these goalies off the list:
Rask (Bos) 31
Smith (Ari) 36
Crawford (Chi) 33
Varlamov (Col) 30
Bobrovski (Cbj) 30
Bishop (Dal) 32
Howard (Det) 34
Talbot (Edm) 31
Luongo (Fla) 39
Quick (LA) 32
Dubnyk (Min) 32
Price (Mon) 31
Rinne (Nsh) 36
Schneider (NJ) 32
Greiss (NYI) 32
Lundqvist (NYR) 36
Anderson (Ott) 37
MA Fleury (VGK) 34
- Glak18

I am saying that if you look at the goalies he acquired, he signed Biron, Emery and Bryzgalov in FA and traded for Mason

Yeah, he could trade for an older goalie. But he acquired four during his tenure and no matter what anyone says, you can't argue that you know that's what he prefers or will do, because his track record shows just the opposite

If he doesn't acquire a stopgap and Bob hits FA, the Flyers are more likely to make him an offer as anything else for a goalie over 30, if Homer's track record is any indication

I am saying that if you look at the goalies he acquired, he signed Biron, Emery and Bryzgalov in FA and traded for Mason

Yeah, he could trade for an older goalie. But he acquired for during his tenure and no matter what anyone says, you can't argue that you know that's what he prefers or will do, because his track record shows just the opposite

If he doesn't acquire a stopgap and Bob hits FA, the Flyers are more likely to make him an offer as anything else for a goalie over 30, if Homer's track record is any indication
- AllInForFlyers

I just read the first sentence, for some reason you keep saying look at what "he" did...are you really, no seriously are you really using what was done in the past for HOMER and telling me you can predict the future on what the new GM would do by that? That's weird as poop. That's not how trades work. You want something, the other team wants something of yours and you deal. There is not a chart you follow.

Good Lord, people -- I don't mind trading prospects or young players, but not for 34-year-old goalies!

The Flyers aren't going to make stupid moves -- even when Homer made trades, he didn't lose his freaking mind all the time.

He traded Carter and Richards for packages of young players. He traded JVR for Schenn -- Schenn was an '08, JVR an '07.

We can certainly not like Versteeg and Kubina being acquired, but those were for picks.

He got Mason for a pick.

Hell, even the Pronger deal brought a youngish Joffrey Lupul with him.

I'm not saying dudes aren't getting traded -- someone likely is. But Homer has no track record to speak of for trading young for old, and I would argue after watching his tenure that Homer actually prefers younger players unless they are fairly exceptional, like a Pronger
- AllInForFlyers

The Flyers traded Lupul as part of the package to get Pronger.

I just read the first sentence, for some reason you keep saying look at what "he" did...are you really, no seriously are you really using what was done in the past for HOMER and telling me you can predict the future on what the new GM would do by that? That's weird as poop. That's not how trades work. You want something, the other team wants something of yours and you deal. There is not a chart you follow.
- Glak18

I'm saying that if Homer tries to acquire a goalie before a GM gets hired, which he said he might, the odds are it won't be "Rubstov for Older Goalie"

I have no idea what a new GM will or won't do.

The Flyers traded Lupul as part of the package to get Pronger.
- MJL

Yikes -- I realized that when I typed it out. I made a mistake there. Good catch

The Flyers traded Lupul as part of the package to get Pronger.
- MJL

Wasn't Lupul traded for Pronger twice, now that you jogged my memory

I'm saying that if Homer tries to acquire a goalie before a GM gets hired, which he said he might, the odds are it won't be "Rubstov for Older Goalie"

I have no idea what a new GM will or won't do.
- AllInForFlyers

Ok cool, but that still doesn't predict anything even if you want to justify "the trend". The other GM who deals with Homer dictates just as much as he does.

Ever ask yourself "How come the Flyers haven't traded for [fill in players name]"? If you want the answer then I am happy to tell you.

It's not a bad deal, you are just too stubborn to realize Rubtsov is not that heavily regarded as a prospect . I would hate to think what you think Laberge is worth. Maybe the Flyers could trade Grey Carey for a top 4 defenseman....wooooooo.
- Glak18

That's ridiculous. It's a bad deal. Poorly thought out.

I am saying that if you look at the goalies he acquired, he signed Biron, Emery and Bryzgalov in FA and traded for Mason

Yeah, he could trade for an older goalie. But he acquired four during his tenure and no matter what anyone says, you can't argue that you know that's what he prefers or will do, because his track record shows just the opposite

If he doesn't acquire a stopgap and Bob hits FA, the Flyers are more likely to make him an offer as anything else for a goalie over 30, if Homer's track record is any indication
- AllInForFlyers

I believe Biron was acquired in a trade.

I am saying that if you look at the goalies he acquired, he signed Biron, Emery and Bryzgalov in FA and traded for Mason

Yeah, he could trade for an older goalie. But he acquired four during his tenure and no matter what anyone says, you can't argue that you know that's what he prefers or will do, because his track record shows just the opposite

If he doesn't acquire a stopgap and Bob hits FA, the Flyers are more likely to make him an offer as anything else for a goalie over 30, if Homer's track record is any indication
- AllInForFlyers

There is no track record. He went for goalies that other teams didnt want. Bufallo didnt want Biron, he was their backup. Bryzgalov was the big FA goalie that year. Columbus didnt want Mason especially after getting Bob from us. Even Ottawa didnt want Emery. He specifically targetted these guys because they were available. What goalies under 30 are currently available? Two and that is an assumption. The goalies available are:

Bob(presumably)
Howard
Talbot
Quick
Ryan Miller
Darling
Crawford
Luongo
Schneider
Anderson
Allen(Maybe)
Murray(Maybe)

Allen and Murray are the only young goalies who might not even be on the market. Can you honestly say either of those two would be an upgrade over what we got? I cant see the Blues trading Allen without them acquiring another goalie. Murray is speculation on rumours because he has struggled.

I believe Biron was acquired in a trade.
- MJL

He was but he was a UFA at the end of the season. He had to be signed by the Flyers after the trade.

Yikes -- I realized that when I typed it out. I made a mistake there. Good catch
- AllInForFlyers

Not a big deal. I agree with the points made in the post.

Ok cool, but that still doesn't predict anything even if you want to justify "the trend". The other GM who deals with Homer dictates just as much as he does.

Ever ask yourself "How come the Flyers haven't traded for
- Glak18[fill in players name]"? If you want the answer then I am happy to tell you.

I qualified it as best I could, but at some point, trends show a lot about what you are

Homer as GM showed that he actually kinda liked youngish players, one or two studs on the back end that he was willing to pay to acquire

I believe Biron was acquired in a trade.
- MJL

Ha! Biron was a pending FA. Good catch again