Also think they are just trying whatever to see if they can jumpstart Patrick too
- J35Bacher

I think to jumpstart him we need to reduce the pressure. To me that means adding a #2 C or another top 6 LW if you want G to be a C

Than who's the starter?



Is Neuvy healthy (for at least the next 5 minutes) to go on Saturday?
- hockeylover

I thought I read somewhere that Elliot might be ready for Saturday, but then again, I've read so much Flyers stuff in the past 4 days, I feel drunk and might have misread.

Ghost being your best example just shows that you are not very bright. The Provy-Ghost top pairing in 17-18 was the best one the Flyers have had in half a decade, and dominated other teams.

758:15 in ice time at 5on5, 37 GF, 29 GA

Compare that to, oh I don't know, the top pairing from the previous season of Provorov-MacDonald.

823:13 in ice time, 22 GF, 27 GA
- Feanor

I’m not very bright and then you go on to use the word “Dominated”. Normally when a defensive pair “dominates”, they stay together a very long time and builds a resume of success. Perfect example Timonen and Coburn. Pronger and Carle. Desjardins and Therrien. Seriously, what world do you live in? A “Doninating” top pair gets you passed the first round of the playoffs. A “dominating” top pair gets you to the top of the division. Get bent, dummy! Provorov and Ghost were put together because they were the two sexy names on the back end, all the while Ghost rare/never saw defensive zone starts and PK time.

Pretty basic stuff. Fast forward to today, they’re not together and Ghost is a team worst -13 and -18 for his career. Ghost is great with the puck and lost without.

It’s called watching the games. Enjoy your mouth full of poop. I’ve been outspoken about Hextall’s And Hakstol’s aproach to the Game for multiple seasons now and me without my right back, I’ve been right all along.

LOL

Responding to Superschenn. I have always thought Ghost is ideally a 3rd pair defenseman who gets top PP time, but sheltered (targeted?) minutes at even strength.
- MBFlyerfan

I absolutely agree. Pretty basic stuff.

I don't dislike the guy, but he's unreliable. It's like anything else in life: Dependability is an aspect of performance.

I get that the guy is talented. He's probably the most talented NHL option they have.

But he is completely unreliable. Elliott's the best NHL option they have, because his performance and availability is far greater than Neuvirth's talent.

I think Stolarz deserves an opportunity to show if he can be a reliable option. We already know Neuvirth isn't, and while he might win some games, he won't be healthy long enough to matter
- AllInForFlyers

In that context I agree...but I’d agree more if Stolarz had won the other night. The goaltending is so piss poor that despite being totally unreliable Nuevy will probably get the net. Hopefully he can last until Elliot comes back. Hopefully the new GM comes in and gets that mess cleaned up.

I think there are facets of his game where he is better but Voracek's one of the top playmakers in the league.
- MJL

I think the idea of getting Stone is you take his better facets to offset the plays he won't make that Jake could. By the way some of Jake's biggest issues could be considered bad plays.

I’m not very bright and then you go on to use the word “Dominated”. Normally when a defensive pair “dominates”, they stay together a very long time and builds a resume of success. Perfect example Timonen and Coburn. Pronger and Carle. Desjardins and Therrien. Seriously, what would do you live in? A “Doninating” top pair gets you passed the first round of the playoffs. A “dominating” top pair gets you to the top of the division. Get bent, dummy! Provorov and Ghost were put together because they were the two sexy names on the back end, all the while Ghost rare/never saw defensive zone starts and PK time.

Pretty basic stuff. Fast forward to today, they’re not together and Ghost is a team worst -13 and -18 for his career. Ghost is great with the puck and lost without.

It’s called watching the games. Enjoy your mouth full of poop. I’ve been season about Hextall’s And Hakstol’s aproach to the Gabe for multiple season now and me without my right back.



I absolutely agree. Pretty basic stuff.
- SuperSchennBros

Ok if Ghost is a third pairing d would you consider a trade ....

Ghost
Simmonds

To TO for

Nylander
Gardiner

I think when at his poorest Ghost should be sheltered, but he’s also had some good stretches where he plays pretty good in his own zone.

Stay the hell away from Chuck.

The history with how he handled Minny is just too worrisome.

He may be better here, but he was a piss poor GM in his time there. Could never get over the hump himself, pretty bad drafting, bad coaching hires, quite a bad number trades to go along with utterly being destroyed with the expansion draft.

Please no.

I wouldn't be pissed if they hired Fletcher but I would be furious if they hired him today without interviewing anyone else.
- ajw12

I agree! I do want this over quickly so it doesn’t linger over the players

Ok if Ghost is a third pairing d would you consider a trade ....

Ghost
Simmonds

To TO for

Nylander
Gardiner

I think when at his poorest Ghost should be sheltered, but he’s also had some good stretches where he plays pretty good in his own zone.
- landros 2

At first I am tempted to say yes, but Ghost's cap friendly hit with Gardiner walking at the end of the year, and he will, I wouldn't do it.

Probably get better value for Simmonds by himself.

Stay the hell away from Chuck.

The history with how he handled Minny is just too worrisome.

He may be better here, but he was a piss poor GM in his time there. Could never get over the hump himself, pretty bad drafting, bad coaching hires, quite a bad bad trades to go along with utterly being destroyed with the expansion draft.

Please no.
- flyer_nutter

Gut feeling is he’s there guy

Maybe late but Pickard claimed by Coyotes

I just see hockey trade written all over Ottawa right now. Send Voracek, Neuvirth, and a goalie prospect not named Sandstrom or Hart for Anderson and Stone plus a conditional picks if Stone doesn't resign. I would also take Bobby Ryan off thier hands if they eat 4 million of salary. Its a nice upgrade and core deal as long as you get Stone signed.

JVR-Giroux-Stone
Ryan-Couturier-Konecny
Lindblom-Patrick-Simmonds
Raffl-Laughton-Weal/Weise

Provorov-Hagg
AMac/Frolin-Ghost
Gudas-Sanheim

Anderson
Elliot
- youarewrong

Anderson is done. He had a bad year last year and looks to be having another horrible year.

Only reason Ottawa is doing "average" is because of their scoring. They are last in goals against.

Maybe late but Pickard claimed by Coyotes
- mayorofangrytown

We celebrated already, but thanks.

Anderson is done. He had a bad year last year and looks to be having another horrible year.

Only reason Ottawa is doing "average" is because of their scoring. They are last in goals against.
- Streit2ThePoint

Wouldn't give up more than a 5th or 6th for Anderson.

Wouldn't give up more than a 5th or 6th for Anderson.
- Glak18

It just wouldn't make sense. Let's add another pound of poop in our poop bag

it's still poop

Also think they are just trying whatever to see if they can jumpstart Patrick too
- J35Bacher

Yes, I am sure they do want to get Patrick going. Was Weise on his line when he scored one of his first NHL goals?

Gut feeling is he’s there guy
- Duane B

Me too. He’s the only name that keeps being repeated.

I’m on the side of wanting Hunter, Zito or Greeley.

Zito.

Don't sleep on Stolie. Can't blame him for some of those deflected goals. He looked solid otherwise.

Get me a 1C. Coots is our shutdown center and PK specialist. Replace his offense with a 1C. It's been under our nose this whole time🤓

Trouba!

Jimmy Howard.

It just wouldn't make sense. Let's add another pound of poop in our poop bag
- Streit2ThePoint

Oh I agree 100%, Anderson is probably worse than what we have. The pick is just a token when Neuvirth goes down again.

Maybe late but Pickard claimed by Coyotes
- mayorofangrytown

A lil

Zito.

Don't sleep on Stolie. Can't blame him for some of those deflected goals. He looked solid otherwise.

Get me a 1C. Coots is our shutdown center and PK specialist. Replace his offense with a 1C. It's been under our nose this whole time🤓

Trouba!

Jimmy Howard.

Jack Hughes for 1C

- cdearth23

Fixed

Me too. He’s the only name that keeps being repeated.

I’m on the side of wanting Hunter, Zito or Greeley.
- flyer_nutter

I’m right with you and so are a few others in here all clues lead too Fletcher getting the nod

Zito.

Don't sleep on Stolie. Can't blame him for some of those deflected goals. He looked solid otherwise.

Get me a 1C. Coots is our shutdown center and PK specialist. Replace his offense with a 1C. It's been under our nose this whole time🤓

Trouba!

Jimmy Howard.
- cdearth23

The Jets aren’t letting trouba go imo. They are all in, and that back end is kind of suspect at times to begin with. Trouba is kind of their 1b dman along with Morrissey.

You might be able to get him but not before the playoffs imo.

People need to STFU with the Hunter talk...I mean it

People need to STFU with the Hunter talk...I mean it
- Glak18

How I feel about Fletcher honestly.