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Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Nov 29 @ 7:26 PM ET
you're clearly avoiding the Q - Hainstrom won't play top par for sure. If you're Babs and it's your decision - who?
- 21peter


No I'm not, I've answered it 12 different ways. Zaitsev is the lesser of their current evils. He's paid relatively big bucks, he's got more experience than Ozhiganov, more youth than Hainsey, he's actually right handed. He's not the right guy or the best guy for the job but by default, given who they have, it's Zaitsev.

Or completely off the board, Rielly and Gardiner, Dermott and Zaitsev, Hainsey and Ozhiganov. Apparently, Rielly and Gardiner have some pretty good advanced stats when they play together but the sniff test on that pairing suggests they'd be in tough defensively.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Nov 29 @ 7:28 PM ET
Hi 2nd place team
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Nov 29 @ 7:29 PM ET
No I'm not, I've answered it 12 different ways. Zaitsev is the lesser of their current evils. He's paid relatively big bucks, he's got more experience than Ozhiganov, more youth than Hainsey, he's actually right handed. He's not the right guy or the best guy for the job but by default, given who they have, it's Zaitsev.
- Unholy_Goalie

aiight!


Edit: I would probably go with your 2nd option.
BreathLeafs2015
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Nov 29 @ 7:31 PM ET
When Marleau retires, that 6 AAV can be spent on a UFA to play with Matthews. Kapanen and Marleau can suffice for now. The teams needs comes before Matthews' desires, especially if that help on defense helps the team win more (important) games which probably would make him happier than a skilled linemate.

If absolutely necessary, put Marner with Matthews and give Tavares different linemates considering Tavares is locked in and isn't going anywhere anyway and because Tavares has proven he can make average players into 20-30 goal scorers.

- Unholy_Goalie



My thinking about Matthews desire vs team needs etc. I understand your point and can also understand Matthews wanting a wing man that can drive the play and also finish.

Here’s an idea UG and system tool. Good evening by the way.

Put Kadri with matthews. Might be good for Kadri
Put marleau with lindholm and leivo (was our 2nd pp unit)
Top two lines play on the rush offence
While bottom two play grinding cycle game behind O zone goal line and have been effective

Then go upgrade back end with nylander trade


Kadri Matthews Kapanen
Hyman Tavares Marner
MaRleau Lindholm Leivo
Ennis Gauthier brown
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Nov 29 @ 7:31 PM ET
Hi 2nd place team
- cabin



1st the worst

2nd the best

3rd the Habs wishing with their hairy chest.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Nov 29 @ 7:32 PM ET
1st the worst

2nd the best

3rd the Habs wishing with their hairy chest.

- systemtool



was up tool. Gonna be a great game tuesday
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Nov 29 @ 7:35 PM ET
My thinking about Matthews desire vs team needs etc. I understand your point and can also understand Matthews wanting a wing man that can drive the play and also finish.

Here’s an idea UG and system tool. Good evening by the way.

Put Kadri with matthews. Might be good for Kadri
Put marleau with lindholm and leivo (was our 2nd pp unit)
Top two lines play on the rush offence
While bottom two play grinding cycle game behind O zone goal line and have been effective

Then go upgrade back end with nylander trade


Kadri Matthews Kapanen
Hyman Tavares Marner
MaRleau Lindholm Leivo
Ennis Gauthier brown

- BreathLeafs2015


I love the idea of a three line threat. Center depth is huge for me. Sign Nylander. Keep the potential stars we drafted. The burden of a dman that cost Nylander, in this market, is a huge burden. This is a city that Boo'd Larry Murphy. Trade our first, Lilligren or another dman, maybe add Jonsson and get a good dman. Keep Nylander with Matthews. win win.

Id rather trade uncertainty in picks and prospects to improve d than trade a proven like Nylander.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Nov 29 @ 7:35 PM ET
My thinking about Matthews desire vs team needs etc. I understand your point and can also understand Matthews wanting a wing man that can drive the play and also finish.

Here’s an idea UG and system tool. Good evening by the way.

Put Kadri with matthews. Might be good for Kadri
Put marleau with lindholm and leivo (was our 2nd pp unit)
Top two lines play on the rush offence
While bottom two play grinding cycle game behind O zone goal line and have been effective

Then go upgrade back end with nylander trade


Kadri Matthews Kapanen
Hyman Tavares Marner
MaRleau Lindholm Leivo
Ennis Gauthier brown

- BreathLeafs2015


No.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Nov 29 @ 7:36 PM ET


was up tool. Gonna be a great game tuesday

- cabin



Do the Leafs Sabres play? You guys own us
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Nov 29 @ 7:37 PM ET
No I'm not, I've answered it 12 different ways. Zaitsev is the lesser of their current evils. He's paid relatively big bucks, he's got more experience than Ozhiganov, more youth than Hainsey, he's actually right handed. He's not the right guy or the best guy for the job but by default, given who they have, it's Zaitsev.

Or completely off the board, Rielly and Gardiner, Dermott and Zaitsev, Hainsey and Ozhiganov. Apparently, Rielly and Gardiner have some pretty good advanced stats when they play together but the sniff test on that pairing suggests they'd be in tough defensively.

- Unholy_Goalie


I think we'll see this at some point this year. Hainsey can't hang on the top pairing any longer, no matter how much Babcock loves him.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Nov 29 @ 7:38 PM ET
Do the Leafs Sabres play? You guys own us
- systemtool


Tuesday the 4th in Buffalo
BreathLeafs2015
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Nov 29 @ 7:40 PM ET
I love the idea of a three line threat. Center depth is huge for me. Sign Nylander. Keep the potential stars we drafted. The burden of a dman that cost Nylander, in this market, is a huge burden. This is a city that Boo'd Larry Murphy. Trade our first, Lilligren or another dman, maybe add Jonsson and get a good dman. Keep Nylander with Matthews. win win.
- systemtool



Very good. I agree 1-2-3 strong up the middle.
It is very scary to me as an example drew doughty and Eric karlson pay cheque’s they get and all the hype. EK play is not the greatest. Maybe time of adjustment playing in SJ. Doughty big contract at $11M I’ve seen both played play a lot this year and not impressed. Maybe divas can do as you say and get a good RHD man and hopefully a contract that can be manage for 3-5 years
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Nov 29 @ 7:40 PM ET
Tuesday the 4th
- cabin



Bring it!

Matthews vs Eichel

Dahlin vs Reilly

Skinnerrrr (said in a supernintendo chalmers voice) vs Marner

Cant wait!
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Nov 29 @ 7:40 PM ET
Also, what's up with Holl? Is he our new Frankie Corrado?
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Nov 29 @ 7:40 PM ET
Tuesday the 4th in Buffalo
- cabin

where the F is the 'you're an ass button'
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Nov 29 @ 7:40 PM ET
I think we'll see this at some point this year. Hainsey can't hang on the top pairing any longer, no matter how much Babcock loves him.
- gravyface


Despite his offensive numbers, Rielly isn't the best defensively yet. That could change over time but a top pair of Rielly and Gardiner could be a turnover fest followed by a dump, crash and bang game from the opposition that I'm not sure that pairing could handle very well.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Nov 29 @ 7:43 PM ET
Very good. I agree 1-2-3 strong up the middle.
It is very scary to me as an example drew doughty and Eric karlson pay cheque’s they get and all the hype. EK play is not the greatest. Maybe time of adjustment playing in SJ. Doughty big contract at $11M I’ve seen both played play a lot this year and not impressed. Maybe divas can do as you say and get a good RHD man and hopefully a contract that can be manage for 3-5 years

- BreathLeafs2015



When you look at previous cup champs, they have more in common with solid center depth as opposed to solid dmen. Especially with solid wingers. I do concede both are important.

cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Nov 29 @ 7:43 PM ET
where the F is the 'you're an ass button'
- 21peter

They are still working on it . 5 yrs now ?
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Nov 29 @ 7:44 PM ET
Very good. I agree 1-2-3 strong up the middle.
It is very scary to me as an example drew doughty and Eric karlson pay cheque’s they get and all the hype. EK play is not the greatest. Maybe time of adjustment playing in SJ. Doughty big contract at $11M I’ve seen both played play a lot this year and not impressed. Maybe divas can do as you say and get a good RHD man and hopefully a contract that can be manage for 3-5 years

- BreathLeafs2015


EK needs to be on top of his game to be effective. He's like winning the lottery: when he's on, he looks like a no-contest perennial Norris winner, racking up points you'd be happy with from your top 6. When he's not, you're wondering why he's even in your top pairing.

I think he'll come around. New team, still early.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Nov 29 @ 7:44 PM ET
Bring it!

Matthews vs Eichel

Dahlin vs Reilly

Skinnerrrr (said in a supernintendo chalmers voice) vs Marner

Cant wait!

- systemtool


I feel many bans coming . Might be like the mexican boarder in here
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Nov 29 @ 7:44 PM ET
Also, what's up with Holl? Is he our new Frankie Corrado?
- gravyface



I actually like "boats n" Holls.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Nov 29 @ 7:45 PM ET
I feel many bans coming . Might be like the mexican boarder in here
- cabin



Its cool. I troll the Sabres thread alot.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Nov 29 @ 7:46 PM ET
Despite his offensive numbers, Rielly isn't the best defensively yet. That could change over time but a top pair of Rielly and Gardiner could be a turnover fest followed by a dump, crash and bang game from the opposition that I'm not sure that pairing could handle very well.
- Unholy_Goalie


Gardiner and Zaitsev have become the shutdown pairing so far this year, freeing MOrrgan to do exciting things. But I think that's mostly Z breaking the cycle, which he does really well, with Gardiner lugging it out and making those stretch passes.

Rielly Gardiner would require Rielly to dial it back and trade up with Gardiner, but with center support to get the puck out.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Nov 29 @ 7:46 PM ET
Its cool. I troll the Sabres thread alot.
- systemtool

I know you do. All good
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Nov 29 @ 7:48 PM ET
I know you do. All good
- cabin



I was being sarcistic. I have some Sabres stalker who was trolling here earlier.
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