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Forums :: Blog World :: Mike Augello: Matthews back, minor trade, picking up Pickard?; Leafs vs. Sharks
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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Nov 29 @ 1:39 PM ET
not sure havent looked to deply into it, and I only notices Kadri cause I was looking up what Hainsey was to post some smart ass comment
- senstroll



ya bastard
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 29 @ 1:39 PM ET
he hasn't been good but he hasn't been terrible imo. the -8 is a bit surprising. how putrid are his possession numbers?

edit: relative to teammates

- daeth


It's weird.. 5v5, his CF% is 51.3%, 4th among the team. (Not including Justin Holl.)
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Nov 29 @ 1:39 PM ET
I'll sell you this locked S7 for 100 bucks if you clean the grease off it.
- AdamFrench


Pretty sure lube only qualifies as grease if it's oil based.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Nov 29 @ 1:39 PM ET
i would rather catch my dingy in my zipper than have to own anything apple related. hate how little freedom you have with those trash operating systems. they are pretty idiot proof though so they have their uses.
- daeth

Plus you get the privilege of them overpricing their apps that you can't use any other service to get!
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Nov 29 @ 1:40 PM ET
Really good actually

Quick peek reveals Kadri CF% 58

Johnsson 47

- TheMussel


Sort of like when I looked at the 5 games from last night and every team with the lower corsi won the game?
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Nov 29 @ 1:41 PM ET
i would rather catch my dingy in my zipper than have to own anything apple related. hate how little freedom you have with those trash operating systems. they are pretty idiot proof though so they have their uses.
- daeth


My morals won't allow me to own one. My laziness will allow me to recommend it to my mom though.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Nov 29 @ 1:41 PM ET
Lots of pressure on him from the players to not cave, though. Especially with so many big name RFA's coming up next season.
- BINGO!

He's not the president of the PA though lol. He is apparently friends with the players here, is well liked, would have a large role on a good team without being "the guy" so not as much pressure as you'd think, and he'd probably be set for life if he retired a leaf and wanted to continue to work in hockey.

just seems dumb to get your ass traded over what, 500k or whatever the rumours are?
plantheparade
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hyman MVP
Joined: 07.04.2018

Nov 29 @ 1:42 PM ET
I really hope Babs keeps Matts with Kappy and Johnny, they were absolutely relentless together last night.

Kadri, Marleau and Willy would be so far and away the best third line in hockey it's insane.

18, 18, 16 and 8 min across the slate is niiiiiiiice.

- mcleafs


I thought Matthews was actually not that comfortable on that line.
Seemed like he let Kapanen en Johnsson break out, and him making sure no counter attack happened..
Several times when Kapanen en Johnsson were breaking out rapidly, and Matthews was quite a bit behind (on purpose) thinking defense first.
Matthews needs another LW to play with him and Kapanen (assuming Nylander is not there)
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Nov 29 @ 1:43 PM ET
My morals won't allow me to own one. My laziness will allow me to recommend it to my mom though.
- TheMussel

Lol exactly. For most people they are perfectly fine. Overpriced, but pretty high quality hardware at least.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Nov 29 @ 1:43 PM ET
He's not the president of the PA though lol. He is apparently friends with the players here, is well liked, would have a large role on a good team without being "the guy" so not as much pressure as you'd think, and he'd probably be set for life if he retired a leaf and wanted to continue to work in hockey.

just seems dumb to get your ass traded over what, 500k or whatever the rumours are?

- daeth


$300k was the number I last saw lol...

But it's equally dumb for the team to not jump up that amount either. It barely amounts to anything for MLSE, and is only 0.4% of the cap space.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Nov 29 @ 1:44 PM ET
Plus you get the privilege of them overpricing their apps that you can't use any other service to get!
- AdamFrench

i hate that i have itunes on my pc because i need it to watch digital movies i own. they cant even do software right.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Nov 29 @ 1:44 PM ET
$300k was the number I last saw lol...

But it's equally dumb for the team to not jump up that amount either. It barely amounts to anything for MLSE, and is only 0.4% of the cap space.

- BINGO!


500k * 7 years = 3.5 million dollars

Enough for me to retire and live VERY comfortably for the rest of my days.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 29 @ 1:45 PM ET
$300k was the number I last saw lol...

But it's equally dumb for the team to not jump up that amount either. It barely amounts to anything for MLSE, and is only 0.4% of the cap space.

- BINGO!

Its not stupid for either side to wait for the best offer
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Nov 29 @ 1:45 PM ET
That's how I keep reading it too. Feels like Dubas telling Babcock to turn the heat up. Keep bringing him up. Put the media pressure on Nylander to sign so when the trade happens you can be like "Look, we really really wanted him but the greedy SOB just wouldn't play ball!"
- BINGO!

He's currently skating on a pond in Sweden.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Nov 29 @ 1:45 PM ET
$300k was the number I last saw lol...

But it's equally dumb for the team to not jump up that amount either. It barely amounts to anything for MLSE, and is only 0.4% of the cap space.

- BINGO!

With the Leafs it potentially raises the price of Matthews and Marner too though. 300k might end up being 900k, etc.
Drapz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Windsor, ON
Joined: 07.10.2007

Nov 29 @ 1:45 PM ET
my wife has an iphone, I have android... i wont swtich and she likes the iphones..

we talked about it and its not a dealbreaker..we will stay married

- senstroll


Same situation in our house. She asked for an apple watch for Christmas, I put it through on her card.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 29 @ 1:46 PM ET
$300k was the number I last saw lol...

But it's equally dumb for the team to not jump up that amount either. It barely amounts to anything for MLSE, and is only 0.4% of the cap space.

- BINGO!


Not dumb at all on the Leafs part.

They have to be focused on Matthews and Marner. They likely already know what those two want in regards to $$ and term, and can't afford to give Nylander more $$
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Nov 29 @ 1:47 PM ET
Really good actually

Quick peek reveals Kadri CF% 58

Johnsson 47

- TheMussel



50.8?

58% he'd really be having some bad luck...
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 29 @ 1:48 PM ET
Not dumb at all on the Leafs part.

They have to be focused on Matthews and Marner. They likely already know what those two want in regards to $$ and term, and can't afford to give Nylander more $$

- PatC80

For Dubas this negotiation is going to help his job and make his hockey team better.

This last bit is going to decide what colour Nylander can get his Lamborghini in....
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Nov 29 @ 1:49 PM ET
With the Leafs it potentially raises the price of Matthews and Marner too though. 300k might end up being 900k, etc.
- daeth


I don't think it changes anything with them. Those guys are getting their money regardless, right?

Hell, the Leafs should have been trying to sign Marner the moment it was an option. He's only getting more expensive at this point anyway. I really don't think a couple hundred thousand for Nylander changes anything for the other two.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Nov 29 @ 1:50 PM ET
Not dumb at all on the Leafs part.

They have to be focused on Matthews and Marner. They likely already know what those two want in regards to $$ and term, and can't afford to give Nylander more $$

- PatC80


If they know what the other two want, why haven't they signed them yet?
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 29 @ 1:51 PM ET
I don't think it changes anything with them. Those guys are getting their money regardless, right?

Hell, the Leafs should have been trying to sign Marner the moment it was an option. He's only getting more expensive at this point anyway. I really don't think a couple hundred thousand for Nylander changes anything for the other two.

- BINGO!


This comment came out of your bum hole.

You don’t know anything that has happened or will happen with Marner. For all we know Dubas could of offered him 15 million a season only for him to turn it down.
plantheparade
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hyman MVP
Joined: 07.04.2018

Nov 29 @ 1:52 PM ET
I don't think it changes anything with them. Those guys are getting their money regardless, right?

Hell, the Leafs should have been trying to sign Marner the moment it was an option. He's only getting more expensive at this point anyway. I really don't think a couple hundred thousand for Nylander changes anything for the other two.

- BINGO!


you are correct on all points, sir.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Nov 29 @ 1:53 PM ET
If Matthew's wants to be considered the greatest Leaf ever he signs an 88 million dollar/8 year deal. Takes a significant hometown discount.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Nov 29 @ 1:53 PM ET
Lots of pressure on him from the players to not cave, though. Especially with so many big name RFA's coming up next season.
- BINGO!

I always laugh at this line of thought.

What, you think Karlsson and Panarin are phoning him, telling him not to sign for less than $9 million? Why would they do that?

And no, the NHLPA doesn't give two poops either. Whether Nylander signs for $7 million or $9 million has no effect on overall player salaries - it doesn't affect the cap. Less money for Nylander just means more money for other NHLPA members.
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