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Forums :: Blog World :: Mike Augello: Matthews back, minor trade, picking up Pickard?; Leafs vs. Sharks
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Blazed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.18.2012

Nov 29 @ 8:11 AM ET
Who are you upset with over this? Only him? Cause that be uninformed nonsense.

I wish he was here too from day one, but when he hadn't been offered a contract that he's worth can't be upset at the player from not being here.

- burn


What am I uniformed of? Please absolve me of my ignorance.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Nov 29 @ 8:11 AM ET
Is this even confirmed or simply conjecture?

Even if it is true does it absolve him at all? If anything it’s more pathetic. Grow a set Nylander and tell Pops to (frank) off.

‘but Dad I wanna play hockey with my friends!’

- Blazed

It is really hard for me to believe his dad is not a huge part of this. All of the media is saying that, even people who know Michael.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Nov 29 @ 8:12 AM ET
Notice in Toronto the media can't let fans enjoy success? It's not like that anywhere else.
- RogerRoeper



Even outside of Toronto. Saw a tweet from blues reporter saying Matthews a target for offer sheet.


Toronto media doesn't care what the leaf fans thinks, they will still read. Negativity sells among non fans.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Nov 29 @ 8:14 AM ET
What am I uniformed of? Please absolve me of my ignorance.
- Blazed



If you're upset at him for not signing a contract (that hasn't been offered)?
Blazed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.18.2012

Nov 29 @ 8:20 AM ET
If you're upset at him for not signing a contract (that hasn't been offered)?
- burn


For starters all numbers are unconfirmed so in that regard we are all equally uninformed.

Secondly, I’m quite positive he has been offered a contract as we are days away from.....December.

Holding out for what he feels he is arbitrarily worth is clearly not a popular decision.


RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Nov 29 @ 8:22 AM ET
Even outside of Toronto. Saw a tweet from blues reporter saying Matthews a target for offer sheet.


Toronto media doesn't care what the leaf fans thinks, they will still read. Negativity sells among non fans.

- burn


What drives me crazy is all the non Leaf fans think the TO media loves the Leafs. I have never seen such negativity.

The "Offer Sheet" stuff is pure fantasy.
mel_vin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 07.11.2007

Nov 29 @ 8:26 AM ET
Karlsson was a big bag of meh tonight.

I sincerely hope Tampa signs him to a stupid contract.

- Atomic Wedgie



Uggie wanted him on the leafs cause we cant win with out him

burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Nov 29 @ 8:27 AM ET
For starters all numbers are unconfirmed so in that regard we are all equally uninformed.

Secondly, I’m quite positive he has been offered a contract as we are days away from.....December.

Holding out for what he feels he is arbitrarily worth is clearly not a popular decision.

- Blazed



Of course they are unconfirmed, which was the point. Can't be mad a a guy when you don't know the facts.

Of course he's been offered "a contract" by now. It be pretty absurd to believe otherwise. But we're not talking about "a contract" are we? Aren't we talking about one that is reasonably expected to be signed?

It's not a popularity contest. And it's not arbitrary when you can list dozens of guys comparable to him and find a spot where he should fit in. And if that hasn't been offered yet ( or just this week was offered) why is it nylander fault?

burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Nov 29 @ 8:28 AM ET
What drives me crazy is all the non Leaf fans think the TO media loves the Leafs. I have never seen such negativity.

The "Offer Sheet" stuff is pure fantasy.

- RogerRoeper



It's quite comical.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 29 @ 8:32 AM ET
LeBrun said the exact opposite the exact same day.

Diagnosis. They are full of poop speculating.

- AdamFrench

Well ya. Thats what Friedman said, it was opinion.
What dont people understand?
To all those twitidiots getting pissy about it. Chill, he gave an opinion.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 29 @ 8:34 AM ET
Even outside of Toronto. Saw a tweet from blues reporter saying Matthews a target for offer sheet.


Toronto media doesn't care what the leaf fans thinks, they will still read. Negativity sells among non fans.

- burn

Matthews could eaisly be the target of an offer sheet.
Hed be the perfect guy to offer sheet.
Blazed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.18.2012

Nov 29 @ 8:34 AM ET
Of course they are unconfirmed, which was the point. Can't be mad a a guy when you don't know the facts.

Of course he's been offered "a contract" by now. It be pretty absurd to believe otherwise. But we're not talking about "a contract" are we? Aren't we talking about one that is reasonably expected to be signed?

It's not a popularity contest. And it's not arbitrary when you can list dozens of guys comparable to him and find a spot where he should fit in. And if that hasn't been offered yet ( or just this week was offered) why is it nylander fault?

- burn


You have no idea officially what has or hasn’t been offered.

What we do know is they are uncharted territory in the cap era. Regardless of how you try to frame it this reflects poorly on Nylander.

Why would I fault the GM for trying to get players signed to reasonable contracts.

The guy that was willing to sit out a quarter plus season to get more is going to be derided for his choice. As a fan it is 100% in our right to be pissed.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Nov 29 @ 8:34 AM ET
Saw a post from Simmons saying that with the emergence of Tavares, makes Matthews expendable.
- burn


i think that was Damian sux cox ..but ya same thing
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 29 @ 8:35 AM ET
It's so hilarious. The leafs are going to trade him cause they have hard feelings that he didn't sign for what THEY want him to sign for.

Nylander is a fantastic talent and the leafs aren't stupid enough to trade him because of poop that is made up (management hard feelings, fans hard feelings)

Media so hellbent on trying to tear down the leafs is highly entertaining. The leafs are the only team that have to deal with cap. They have lots of cap space and some of the smartest minds working the cap(the guy that helped write the (frank)ing cba is their assistant gm) but they can't make it work. Watch ou for offer sheets yeah, that thing that doesn't happen ever is going to happen. Players are going to want to leave one of the best young teams on the verge to go to some trash heap team .

- burn

Its hilarious to see people think the media has a conspiracy against the leafs and try to do all the above.

Too funny.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Nov 29 @ 8:35 AM ET
Matthews could eaisly be the target of an offer sheet.
Hed be the perfect guy to offer sheet.

- Fakepartofme


Everyone who says this though assumes he won't be offered a deal by the Leafs.

And yes, the Coyotees speculation is fantasy. They are so broke.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Nov 29 @ 8:37 AM ET
Its hilarious to see people think the media has a conspiracy against the leafs and try to do all the above.

Too funny.

- Fakepartofme


The media is negative. No one is talking conspiracy. Negativity sells over positive Leaf stories.
The cap talk would not occur with any other team. Imagine if Laine was on the Leafs and got 5 goals in 1 night and was about to become RFA?
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 29 @ 8:37 AM ET
Agreed. Real fans, true blue fans should boo him for no reason. That's what real,fans should do. Absolutely.
- burn

Yes. They pay the ticket, they can express their opinion or feeling however they want.

Welcome to reality.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 29 @ 8:38 AM ET
Who are you upset with over this? Only him? Cause that be uninformed nonsense.

I wish he was here too from day one, but when he hadn't been offered a contract that he's worth can't be upset at the player from not being here.

- burn

You dont know he hasnt.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 29 @ 8:41 AM ET
Everyone who says this though assumes he won't be offered a deal by the Leafs.

And yes, the Coyotees speculation is fantasy. They are so broke.

- RogerRoeper

Exactly.
If he makes it to July 1st with no extension, he would be the perfect offer sheet candidate.
Which is why everyone is saying get him signed long before then
Avoid any mess.

Fack the coyotes.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Nov 29 @ 8:42 AM ET
Exactly.
If he makes it to July 1st with no extension, he would be the perfect offer sheet candidate.
Which is why everyone is saying get him signed long before then
Avoid any mess.

Fack the coyotes.

- Fakepartofme


They will offer him 12 or 13 million per. They just need to get through this Willy situation. We will start seeing signings once Dec 1st passes.

But I maintain the doom and gloom of every player leaving is laughable.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Nov 29 @ 8:45 AM ET


Karlsson..(frank) you guys im out

https://twitter.com/TSN12...tatus/1068118902734028800

Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 29 @ 8:45 AM ET
The media is negative. No one is talking conspiracy. Negativity sells over positive Leaf stories.
The cap talk would not occur with any other team. Imagine if Laine was on the Leafs and got 5 goals in 1 night and was about to become RFA?

- RogerRoeper

Its not negativity if you know how the media works. Media 101. Sell papers, views, clicks, post, references create chatter.
Cater to the lowest denominator....and look at those on here mad at them but chatting about their quotes, tweets and articles.

RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Nov 29 @ 8:48 AM ET
Its not negativity if you know how the media works. Media 101. Sell papers, views, clicks, post, references create chatter.
Cater to the lowest denominator....and look at those on here mad at them but chatting about their quotes, tweets and articles.

- Fakepartofme


That's fine but then don't turn out (Not talking about you BTW) and say they are biased and love the Leafs.

The night they beat LA and majority of people missed the game due to it starting at 10:30, I tuned into radio talk for an hour and it was all Leaf talk, but all about how Kapanen will leave and is too expensive. There was nothing about the actual game.

Best Leaf teams in decades and I feel they barely discuss the play of the Leafs.

That's how media here works, they don't act like that anywhere else.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Nov 29 @ 8:50 AM ET


Karlsson..(frank) you guys im out

https://twitter.com/TSN12...tatus/1068118902734028800

- senstroll

Saw that
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 29 @ 8:52 AM ET
They will offer him 12 or 13 million per. They just need to get through this Willy situation. We will start seeing signings once Dec 1st passes.

But I maintain the doom and gloom of every player leaving is laughable.

- RogerRoeper

Again, its just chatter to fill pages and airways.
I never worry about it.
But the option is there, its been used before...id he makes it to July 1st.
Im hoping he gets signed before jan 31st
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