Like i said, boo him until he scores
Then move on.
- Fakepartofme

If Babcock slaps him on the 4th line and 2nd PP unit (if any PP time at all) plus his potential lack of timing and conditioning, it could be awhile before he scores like normal. Really hope he comes back guns blazing because getting his trade value back up is paramount.

Luckily they have Nylander as a trade chip to get that help on D. Just hope it's used wisely and brings in the right guy. Every game that St. Louis loses should be considered a win. Grabbing a guy like Pietrangelo for Nylander would be a huge help.
- Unholy_Goalie

St. Louis has no defence prospects in their system, they have a much better offensive lineup and prospects than defence. After Parayko and Peitrangelo they don't have much on defence. Their goaltending has been (frank)ing terrible for years now and is by fair their biggest issue. You aren't getting their best defencemen for Nylander, they need a goalie.... but because the leafs want them obviously they'd just give them up for more forwards...

Just like LA will just give up Doughty for Nylander+... you want Doughty, who you say is the best dman in the league, they are going to ask for Marner... and he's already (frank)ing said he doesn't want to play in Toronto and has a NMC but of course he'd waive because I said so... Can you use that crystal ball you have to see everything in the future to tell me what numbers to pick for friday so I can win 60 million?

It's almost like you forget there are 29 other teams that would also be interesting in aquiring some of the best RHD in the league which is the most saught after position there is at the moment. I find it hard to believe that no other team will offer something better than Nylander+ for Doughty or Pietranglo....

St. Louis has no defence prospects in their system, they have a much better offensive lineup and prospects than defence. After Parayko and Peitrangelo they don't have much on defence. Their goaltending has been (frank)ing terrible for years now and is by fair their biggest issue. You aren't getting their best defencemen for Nylander, they need a goalie.... but because the leafs want them obviously they'd just give them up for more forwards...
- harps43

He has 1 year left on his deal and if the team still sucks (2nd last), he could walk. Would they lose him for nothing? Also, keep in mind what Karlsson went for. Nylander might be way more than what anybody else might offer. Nylander may be a forward but he brings them speed, skill and he's young. Yes, they need a goalie but they might not be able to find one and may decide to get younger instead of trying to recycle the same team again and again. Schenn also only has 1 year left so they might trade him too and replace him with Nylander.

Just like LA will just give up Doughty for Nylander+... you want Doughty, who you say is the best dman in the league, they are going to ask for Marner... and he's already (frank)ing said he doesn't want to play in Toronto and has a NMC but of course he'd waive because I said so... Can you use that crystal ball you have to see everything in the future to tell me what numbers to pick for friday so I can win 60 million?

LA is dead last in the league and could potentially blow it up. Any player would reconsider if they want to stay in that situation and that NMC becomes negotiable.

It's almost like you forget there are 29 other teams that would also be interesting in aquiring some of the best RHD in the league which is the most saught after position there is at the moment. I find it hard to believe that no other team will offer something better than Nylander+ for Doughty or Pietranglo....

How many other teams could offer more than Nylander+ and fit Doughty and/or Pietrangelo under their cap and give them a good chance to win a Cup? I'm not saying there are zero other places but the Leafs could put together a significant offer and pitch.

On Tim & Sid
Elliott’s Friedman says no matter if Nylander signs or opts to sit out the year elliotte believes nylander will be traded before trade deadline. Why, what is Elliotte’s reasoning?

Answer:
Nylander has caused a lot of bad feelings with management. Not to mention fans. He’s set a precedent that you do not want to happen with the likes of Matthews or marner. (Last sentence my two cents)
- BreathLeafs2015

greedy willy can go suck a big green donkey Richard
I want him gone now

what a (frank)ing joke:no


edit:nice alliteration:thumbs up

He has 1 year left on his deal and if the team still sucks (2nd last), he could walk. Would they lose him for nothing? Also, keep in mind what Karlsson went for. Nylander might be way more than what anybody else might offer. Nylander may be a forward but he brings them speed, skill and he's young. Yes, they need a goalie but they might not be able to find one and may decide to get younger instead of trying to recycle the same team again and again. Schenn also only has 1 year left so they might trade him too and replace him with Nylander.



LA is dead last in the league and could potentially blow it up. Any player would reconsider if they want to stay in that situation and that NMC becomes negotiable.



How many other teams could offer more than Nylander+ and fit Doughty and/or Pietrangelo under their cap and give them a good chance to win a Cup? I'm not saying there are zero other places but the Leafs could put together a significant offer and pitch.
- Unholy_Goalie

Doughty/Pietrangelo would be nice but your conclusions are based 100% on fantasy. There's no indication yet that either of those players are available for trade or want to leave their respective teams. Until that happens, the conclusions you're coming to are entirely built on facts that you've made up. It's not a solid foundation for your argument to be standing on. It's fun to think about as a one off comment, but to be obsessed about it seems like a waste of time.

#freeHOHO

Like i said, boo him until he scores
Then move on.
- Fakepartofme

I don't think booing is right. How about we hold out on him? Refuse to cheer, post, text, tweet, mention his name at the cooler until his first hat trick. Nobody is going to buy his jersey unless it was $19 from mingpau.com. The only commercial he can get is for sex numbing gel so people can hold out for longer like him.

This would be as futile as trying to hold out on the wife though the news will be full of either Nylander hasn't scored yet or he is back on track for 60 points.

If he gets signed long term he is gone. I wouldn't risk my GM career on a guy that cares more about his hair that his team. Best case for our relationship with him is a bridge.

On Tim & Sid
Elliott’s Friedman says no matter if Nylander signs or opts to sit out the year elliotte believes nylander will be traded before trade deadline. Why, what is Elliotte’s reasoning?

Answer:
Nylander has caused a lot of bad feelings with management. Not to mention fans. He’s set a precedent that you do not want to happen with the likes of Matthews or marner. (Last sentence my two cents)
- BreathLeafs2015

I doubt he's caused any negative feelings with management. It's business. The Leafs are clearly playing hardball and probably don't care about Nylanders personal feelings, nor should they when Mitch and Matthews are up for renewal. So if the Leafs aren't worries about pissing off Nylander, why should he be worried about Dubas or Shanahan's personal feelings?

As for precedent, this is nothing but positive for Toronto. It shows they have a plan, and players will abide by it or they won't play in the NHL and collect that paycheque.

Matthews sucks.

Matthews sucks.
- AdamFrench

Glasshews. *

Matthews sucks.
- AdamFrench

Why the frank was he even shooting from such a low-percentage area? I mean, yeah, whoopity-do, it went in, but 99.99% of the time a goalie saves that.

The smart play is to pass it back to Marincin.

Matthews is a selfish player.

On Tim & Sid
Elliott’s Friedman says no matter if Nylander signs or opts to sit out the year elliotte believes nylander will be traded before trade deadline. Why, what is Elliotte’s reasoning?

Answer:
Nylander has caused a lot of bad feelings with management. Not to mention fans. He’s set a precedent that you do not want to happen with the likes of Matthews or marner. (Last sentence my two cents)
- BreathLeafs2015

No

No
- burn

There are so many bad takes about Nylander... media and fans alike.

No
- burn

LeBrun said the exact opposite the exact same day.

Diagnosis. They are full of poop speculating.

LeBrun said the exact opposite the exact same day.

Diagnosis. They are full of poop speculating.
- AdamFrench

Yes.

There are so many bad takes about Nylander... media and fans alike.
- lumlums

It's so hilarious. The leafs are going to trade him cause they have hard feelings that he didn't sign for what THEY want him to sign for.

Nylander is a fantastic talent and the leafs aren't stupid enough to trade him because of poop that is made up (management hard feelings, fans hard feelings)

Media so hellbent on trying to tear down the leafs is highly entertaining. The leafs are the only team that have to deal with cap. They have lots of cap space and some of the smartest minds working the cap(the guy that helped write the (frank)ing cba is their assistant gm) but they can't make it work. Watch ou for offer sheets yeah, that thing that doesn't happen ever is going to happen. Players are going to want to leave one of the best young teams on the verge to go to some trash heap team .

Like i said, boo him until he scores
Then move on.
- Fakepartofme

Agreed. Real fans, true blue fans should boo him for no reason. That's what real,fans should do. Absolutely.

should've taken Laine... Gary Lawless, Spatso

"Mathews too injury prone"....

how long until that donkey SImmons asks the stupid questions?
- BorjeFan4Ever

Saw a post from Simmons saying that with the emergence of Tavares, makes Matthews expendable.

Agreed. Real fans, true blue fans should boo him for no reason. That's what real,fans should do. Absolutely.
- burn

I don’t give a poop what anyone says, setting a cap era hold out record and missing over a quarter of the most anticipated season in Leaf history is absolute horsepoop.

Nylander should’ve been on the ice for the home opener and I don’t understand why some people don’t get why fans are upset.

Love Beyak's comment after Matthew's wrister - it's not fair lololol

I don’t give a poop what anyone says, setting a cap era hold out record and missing over a quarter of the most anticipated season in Leaf history is absolute horsepoop.

Nylander should’ve been on the ice for the home opener and I don’t understand why some people don’t get why fans are upset.
- Blazed

It's upsetting, but his dad is nuts. He is the one calling the shots here.

Saw a post from Simmons saying that with the emergence of Tavares, makes Matthews expendable.
- burn

True but will we expend him? Not likely.

Saw a post from Simmons saying that with the emergence of Tavares, makes Matthews expendable.
- burn

Notice in Toronto the media can't let fans enjoy success? It's not like that anywhere else.

I don’t give a poop what anyone says, setting a cap era hold out record and missing over a quarter of the most anticipated season in Leaf history is absolute horsepoop.

Nylander should’ve been on the ice for the home opener and I don’t understand why some people don’t get why fans are upset.
- Blazed

Who are you upset with over this? Only him? Cause that be uninformed nonsense.

I wish he was here too from day one, but when he hadn't been offered a contract that he's worth can't be upset at the player from not being here.

It's upsetting, but his dad is nuts. He is the one calling the shots here.
- RogerRoeper

Is this even confirmed or simply conjecture?

Even if it is true does it absolve him at all? If anything it’s more pathetic. Grow a set Nylander and tell Pops to (frank) off.

‘but Dad I wanna play hockey with my friends!’