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J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Nov 28 @ 12:04 PM ET
Wow, shocked to see Pryor go, he's been here a long time and done a fine job overseeing the scouts.I guess they figure a new GM is going to want his own right hand man.

edit: Murphy was never Hakstol's pick, wonder if he's been wanting to make a change for a while now and perhaps Hextall wouldn't allow it.

- BiggE



Could moving on from Pryor be a hint maybe it's Zito coming here? Guy who handles a lot of what Pryor did for the Flyers with the Bluejackets?

johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Nov 28 @ 12:04 PM ET
A purge of the Hexstall loyalists
- Marc D


You're not wrong about that, but Pryor was with the org for 20 years. He may have backed Hexy, but I don't think he's "Hexy's guy" if that makes sense?

Maybe they give him something else in the org?

I'm really surprised about Pryor, I guess is what I'm saying.
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Nov 28 @ 12:04 PM ET
Hunter was supposed to be the draft genius for the Leafs.

If you look at his actual record, it's pretty crap.

He drafted Marner 4th. The kid was ranked 6th. I don't think Hunter gets a lot of credit for this. After that, the rest of the 2015 draft was a bit of a poopshow. We traded down - letting you take Konecny. We took Dermott in the second round, which isn't bad, but could have had Aho or Carlo. After Dermott, there's nothing that will play in the NHL.

2016 was even worse. You don't get credit for selecting Matthews. With our second pick, we took an overage Yegor Korshkov - FFS, we probably could have taken him in the 7th or even just invited him to training camp. Highly doubtful anyone from the Leafs' 2016 draft not named Matthews makes the NHL.

2017 - too soon to tell, but there aren't a lot of guys that look to be superstars.

So be careful what you wish for.

- Atomic Wedgie


Zito it is then
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Nov 28 @ 12:04 PM ET
Looks like Hakstol influenced the Murphy firing

https://twitter.com/nhlfl.../1067826176247455745?s=21
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 28 @ 12:04 PM ET
How did you generate the 1.21 gigawattts required for time travel?
- Atomic Wedgie


I'm sorry, but the only power source capable of generating 1.21 gigawatts of electricity is a bolt of lightning.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 28 @ 12:04 PM ET
Was Hakstol not allowed to pick his own assistant coaches? what the (frank)
- feelingkettle


Yup, he inherited Lappy and Mullen and Hextall hired Murphy. Also it was Hextall who replaced Mullen with Knoblauch.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 28 @ 12:04 PM ET
Pickard on waivers
- Doctor DOOM

oh the horror
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Nov 28 @ 12:05 PM ET
Was Hakstol not allowed to pick his own assistant coaches? what the (frank)
- feelingkettle



No. his staff was hired by Hextall.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Nov 28 @ 12:05 PM ET
You're not wrong about that, but Pryor was with the org for 20 years. He may have backed Hexy, but I don't think he's "Hexy's guy" if that makes sense?

Maybe the give him something else in the org?

- johndewar


I could be very wrong, but I thought Hexy leaned on Pryor a lot and I thought he moved up the ranks when Hextall took the job.
JW98FlyerFan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.02.2013

Nov 28 @ 12:05 PM ET
Pryor has been with the Flyers for 20 years.
- johndewar

Maybe he asked to move on...
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 28 @ 12:05 PM ET
Could moving on from Pryor be a hint maybe it's Zito coming here? Guy who handles a lot of what Pryor did for the Flyers with the Bluejackets?
- J35Bacher


POssibly,who knows
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Nov 28 @ 12:05 PM ET
Was Hakstol not allowed to pick his own assistant coaches? what the (frank)
- feelingkettle


No, he was not. That was mentioned somewhere in the reports yesterday.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Nov 28 @ 12:06 PM ET
No, he was not. That was mentioned somewhere in the reports yesterday.
- johndewar

Is that normal, or is that kinda weird? It seems weird to me.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 28 @ 12:06 PM ET
Gotta hand it to Hak. If you're gonna go out, go out swinging.
- johndewar


IKR

Man. This reminds me of the 90s/early 2000s Flyers, where there was always poop going down

All we need now is a player revolt and J.R. Superstar to come back and shoot pucks at Michal Neuvirth's head, and we'd be good to go
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Nov 28 @ 12:06 PM ET
I could be very wrong, but I thought Hexy leaned on Pryor a lot and I thought he moved up the ranks when Hextall took the job.
- Glak18


He probably did, but he had a career with the Flyers before Hextall took the GM gig:

https://www.nbcsports.com...director-player-personnel
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 28 @ 12:07 PM ET
IKR

Man. This reminds me of the 90s/early 2000s Flyers, where there was always poop going down

All we need now is a player revolt an J.R. Superstar to come back and shoot pucks at Michal Neuvirth's head, and we'd be good to go

- AllInForFlyers


Better that, than at his legs.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Nov 28 @ 12:07 PM ET
Is that normal, or is that kinda weird? It seems weird to me.
- feelingkettle


I think it's weird too.

It's, at least, highly unusual.

You see it in football sometimes, but it almost never works.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Nov 28 @ 12:08 PM ET
He probably did, but he had a career with the Flyers before Hextall took the GM gig:

https://www.nbcsports.com...director-player-personnel

- johndewar


Didn't Hextall cut his teeth in the Flyers organization after his playing days as well though, before his LA days?

Yup a scout then Director of Player Personnel from 99-06
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Nov 28 @ 12:08 PM ET
How did you generate the 1.21 gigawattts required for time travel?
- Atomic Wedgie



Found someone with a death wish to plug two cords together at the same time a lighting bolt struck the clock tower.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 28 @ 12:08 PM ET
Gotta get some work done, will check back later this afternoon

By that time, I expect we'll have a new GM, a new coach and we will have traded for McDavid.

See ya later.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 28 @ 12:08 PM ET
What if Dave Hakstol is really the Verbal Kint of this entire coup and is really behind Hextall's ouster?
- johndewar

as long as he doesn't touch young boys
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Nov 28 @ 12:10 PM ET
You're not wrong about that, but Pryor was with the org for 20 years. He may have backed Hexy, but I don't think he's "Hexy's guy" if that makes sense?

Maybe they give him something else in the org?

I'm really surprised about Pryor, I guess is what I'm saying.

- johndewar


Maybe he disagreed with the Hexy firing and personally couldn’t get behind the new direction that’s being discussed behind closed doors. Idk.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Nov 28 @ 12:10 PM ET
Didn't Hextall cut his teeth in the Flyers organization after his playing days as well though, before his LA days?
- Glak18


Yes he did. Maybe in those scouting days, he forged a relationship with Pryor?

I don't know what to make of the firing other than what others have said (i.e.--he was a Hextall loyalist).

2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 28 @ 12:10 PM ET
what was murphy in charge of?
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Nov 28 @ 12:11 PM ET
Yes he did. Maybe in those scouting days, he forged a relationship with Pryor?

I don't know what to make of the firing other than what others have said (i.e.--he was a Hextall loyalist).

- johndewar


Yup a scout then Director of Player Personnel from 99-06

Pryor started as a scout same time as Hexy then took over his role when Hextall left.
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