Say what you will about the current situation, but ALL eyes on the Flyers right now.

Tomorrow is going to be chaos with a presser and a game AT HOME. The Flyers PK may be bottom of the league, but their PR is top 5 in the league. Gritty, Taryn and now Hexy....woah.

Tomorrow night on PPV...

Philadelphia Flyers VS Ottawa Senators

ALL OUT RUBBER MATCH!

That works for me.
- BiggE

yes, Patrick is currently not a 2C, not sure why we keep asking for a 3C

I don’t hate Jake, but he takes too many games and shifts off for my liking. If you can flip him for a legit 2C, I’d make the deal. This team’s core group needs to be shaken up.
- BiggE

problem is with a legit 2C jake is that much better

problem is with a legit 2C jake is that much better
- wcorvette

Who did Jake play with last year?

problem is with a legit 2C jake is that much better
- wcorvette

Simmonds and JVR are better with a better center also.

I'll say what I've said repeatedly. Coaching is results oriented. It is never unfair to hold a coach accountable for the results on the ice. Coaches often pay the price for players sins. That doesn't change that the responsibility for being ready and prepared to play is on the players and not the coaches. The coaches are responsible before a game of relaying the advanced scouting data to the team, setting the lineup, and advising of a strategy going into the game. If you have to motivate players before every game to be ready to play with intensity and urgency, then you have a big issue with the players you have. That simple.
- MJL

motivation comes from within, no one can motivate you, they can however inspire...

Very true but my how things change. We were all on board with the Flyers having to draft and develop a defense.
- MJL

They aren’t incompatible. When Hextall took over, the prospect cupboard was bare. Now, you have a deep base of prospects, a lot of picks and quite a few youngsters on the NHL roster. If you need to move a couple of these pieces to fill a key position of need, this is when you do it.

Hextall did a great job of stocking prospects and controlling the cap. However, IMO, he got too locked in to a long term plan that left no room for flexibility. There are holes that need to be addressed and no successful team fills every key roster spot through the draft alone.

Simmonds and JVR are better with a better center also.
- MJL

of course they are but like him or not jake has proven to be an elite winger with good size. He has also been asked for the 2 plus years to take on the newer players and carry his line.

motivation comes from within, no one can motivate you, they can however inspire...
- wcorvette

So the coach has to inspire the players before every game or theyre not going to play? How many times do you think you can go to that well? I bet the coaches of the best teams don't have to inspire their players to play every game.

yes, Patrick is currently a 2C, not sure why we keep asking for a 3C
- wcorvette

With another top 6 center you move Patrick down to 3C and create mismatches for the other teams. That's the kind of thing the Flyers need to start doing. You can't just say oh we have this kid who just turned 20 playing 2C and that's good enough. They need to start getting a lot hard to play against and you do that by creating mismatches that teams have to adjust for.

one thing is for sure, current management should't let it linger, if they are going to make a trade, make it or communicate to the team they are not...

you can only hope Hextall firing gets these guys focused.

They aren’t incompatible. When Hextall took over, the prospect cupboard was bare. Now, you have a deep base of prospects, a lot of picks and quite a few youngsters on the NHL roster. If you need to move a couple of these pieces to fill a key position of need, this is when you do it.

Hextall did a great job of stocking prospects and controlling the cap. However, IMO, he got too locked in to a long term plan that left no room for flexibility. There are holes that need to be addressed and no successful team fills every key roster spot through the draft alone.
- BiggE

He might also seem to have an inflated opinion on some of these prospects he’s drafted given the lack of hockey trades during his tenure

With another top 6 center you move Patrick down to 3C and create mismatches for the other teams. That's the kind of thing the Flyers need to start doing. You can't just say oh we have this kid who just turned 20 playing 2C and that's good enough. They need to start getting a lot hard to play against and you do that by creating mismatches that teams have to adjust for.
- hereticpride

check my post again, I meant to put he is not a 2C currently, we agree.

They aren’t incompatible. When Hextall took over, the prospect cupboard was bare. Now, you have a deep base of prospects, a lot of picks and quite a few youngsters on the NHL roster. If you need to move a couple of these pieces to fill a key position of need, this is when you do it.

Hextall did a great job of stocking prospects and controlling the cap. However, IMO, he got too locked in to a long term plan that left no room for flexibility. There are holes that need to be addressed and no successful team fills every key roster spot through the draft alone.
- BiggE

In terms of the defense, they really don't have quite a few youngsters. How many can we really count on to become NHL regulars? They still need a player like Myers to hit and hopefully Morin when he gets healthy. They're not exactly overflowing.

In my view you build the team to a point by drafting and developing. Then you identify those weak spots and supplement by trading and using free agency. I think the Flyers panicked today.

So the coach has to inspire the players before every game or theyre not going to play? How many times do you think you can go to that well? I bet the coaches of the best teams don't have to inspire their players to play every game.
- MJL

not what I said, but part of being a leader is knowing your team and yes inspiring when you can. That comes when they are playing or not playing well. Individually it falls on the player at the end.

They aren’t incompatible. When Hextall took over, the prospect cupboard was bare. Now, you have a deep base of prospects, a lot of picks and quite a few youngsters on the NHL roster. If you need to move a couple of these pieces to fill a key position of need, this is when you do it.

Hextall did a great job of stocking prospects and controlling the cap. However, IMO, he got too locked in to a long term plan that left no room for flexibility. There are holes that need to be addressed and no successful team fills every key roster spot through the draft alone.
- BiggE

The approach never made sense from the start. You had a good core in G, Jake and Simmonds already in their prime. You can't commit to the long rebuild at that point. You needed to give these guys more to work with much sooner.

With another top 6 center you move Patrick down to 3C and create mismatches for the other teams. That's the kind of thing the Flyers need to start doing. You can't just say oh we have this kid who just turned 20 playing 2C and that's good enough. They need to start getting a lot hard to play against and you do that by creating mismatches that teams have to adjust for.
- hereticpride

The Flyers tried to cheat the process for a long time and to try and trade and sign their way to the top. Didn't work. They have to wait for players like Patrick and others to take the next step or they're going right back to where they were.

In terms of the defense, they really don't have quite a few youngsters. How many can we really count on to become NHL regulars? They still need a player like Myers to hit and hopefully Morin when he gets healthy. They're not exactly overflowing.

In my view you build the team to a point by drafting and developing. Then you identify those weak spots and supplement by trading and using free agency. I think the Flyers panicked today.
- MJL

The approach never made sense from the start. You had a good core in G, Jake and Simmonds already in their prime. You can't commit to the long rebuild at that point. You needed to give these guys more to work with much sooner.
- hereticpride

So you've been against the draft and develop strategy the entire time?

They aren’t incompatible. When Hextall took over, the prospect cupboard was bare. Now, you have a deep base of prospects, a lot of picks and quite a few youngsters on the NHL roster. If you need to move a couple of these pieces to fill a key position of need, this is when you do it.

Hextall did a great job of stocking prospects and controlling the cap. However, IMO, he got too locked in to a long term plan that left no room for flexibility. There are holes that need to be addressed and no successful team fills every key roster spot through the draft alone.
- BiggE

100%

So you've been against the draft and develop strategy the entire time?
- MJL

No but I felt they were kind of wasting some of these guys best years if I'm being totally honest.

No but I felt they were kind of wasting some of these guys best years if I'm being totally honest.
- hereticpride

That was going to happen from day 1 of Hextall's plan.

No but I felt they were kind of wasting some of these guys best years if I'm being totally honest.
- hereticpride

it is not black and white, you can use the draft to build while adding to the current team. It appears that was the eventual downfall. I am sure there were trades out there to be made, Hextall felt the price was to high, the price ended up to be his job.

I really wish they could have worked it out.

They aren’t incompatible. When Hextall took over, the prospect cupboard was bare. Now, you have a deep base of prospects, a lot of picks and quite a few youngsters on the NHL roster. If you need to move a couple of these pieces to fill a key position of need, this is when you do it.

Hextall did a great job of stocking prospects and controlling the cap. However, IMO, he got too locked in to a long term plan that left no room for flexibility. There are holes that need to be addressed and no successful team fills every key roster spot through the draft alone.
- BiggE

Good post!!👍

In terms of the defense, they really don't have quite a few youngsters. How many can we really count on to become NHL regulars? They still need a player like Myers to hit and hopefully Morin when he gets healthy. They're not exactly overflowing.

In my view you build the team to a point by drafting and developing. Then you identify those weak spots and supplement by trading and using free agency. I think the Flyers panicked today.
- MJL

Flyers absolutely panicked today no doubt about that